Elsha of the Infinite
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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planar Constructed Legal
Planechase Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Elsha of the Infinite

Legendary Creature — Djinn Monk

Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)

You may look at the top card of your library at any time.

You may cast the top card of your library if it’s a noncreature, nonland card, and you may cast it as though it had flash.

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DemonDragonJ on Is Staff of Completion a …

2 months ago

I have four planeswalkers in my Elsha of the Infinite EDH deck, three of whom are in the deck specifically for their emblems, so I believe that Staff of Compleation would help with those planeswalkers accumulating sufficient loyalty to generate their emblems; what does everyone else say about that?

Doolbeurt on Are You Shoryuken? (Street Fighter Prowess)

6 months ago

I have a Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest tiny leaders deck but I've always felt like it could be way more explosive. I was torn between Narset, Enlightened Exile and Elsha of the Infinite for the general. I really like this deck but I was wondering if you've had any experience piloting Elsha?

+1 ;)

Azoth2099 on A WOMAN'S INTUITION (NARSET)

10 months ago

Hypersayia9001

Hey man, thanks for checking out my list!

So this particular iteration is definitely pretty light on rituals as you can see, instead opting for an abundance of low-cost mana rocks along with a few ways to quickly get Dockside Extortionist into your hand - namely Gamble, Imperial Recruiter & Recruiter of the Guard. The curve of the deck is fairly low, and you shouldn't run into too many problems if you play your cards right (lol), but I can definitely see how the lack of rituals could be seen as problematic if we're talking about going fast af. The main reason that I chose to opt for rocks over rituals is the fact that Narset's ability is centered around the combat phase, and it's just more difficult to squeeze value out of rituals in that context than mana rocks, especially since the rocks can also be cast from the graveyard. I do think that something like Storm-Kiln Artist deserves consideration here, though. I've actually been trying to find space for that guy for a few weeks if you have any suggestions on what to cut. If I'm going to slot him in, though, I'd almost rather slot in Birgi, God of Storytelling  Flip so that I can combo with Sensei's Divining Top & Elsha of the Infinite for more sweet, sweet resilience.

Getting to the decks wincons, It's admittedly relying on Intuition to an extreme degree to set up a win by Tutoring up Underworld Breach, Sevinne's Reclamation & Brain Freeze. This strategy relies on the pilot having Lion's Eye Diamond on the board prior, but considering Narset can snatch other people's Tutors from their Graveyards and cast them for free as well as your own, this is actually quite a bit more feasible than it seems at a glance. Remembering that everyone's Graveyards are pretty much yours for the taking is super important here.

Mana Geyser is a timeless banger, but I struggle to find justification for it beyond 2-color builds. There's just not enough room for it compared to other essentials in most 3-color lists within that I've built, unless I'm able to either cast it at instant speed or for a heavily reduced cost, preferably both. My standards for rituals in general may have been ruined by Dark Ritual & Culling the Weak, though...Once you go , ya know...

All of my lists undergo constant editions, though, and I'm sure this one will be no different. I can actually feel the next version brewing in my mind right now lol, thanks for your feedback!

Azoth2099 on Miracle Wizard | You shall not pass! (LOTR Theme)

10 months ago

StyxOG

Yeah man, dialing in the landbase is so crucial for consistency, it can't be overstated. Personally, I try to keep the curve on my decks below 2.00 if I can manage it, which allows me to cut down to 30 lands and retain speed along with ~10 mana rocks and perhaps a few rituals depending on the build. Your build's got plenty of rocks, don't be afraid to cut down a bit as you switch things up.

https://m.managathering.com/trilands/jeskai.html

Here's all the applicable lands within the color combo. Even upon refinement, I'd imagine that your deck will include a few that come in tapped under specific conditions like Spirebluff Canal & Training Center, but that's fine. Just be discerning as to how often they'll realistically come on untapped (quite often).

I'd obviously also recommend the 5-color lands like Mana Confluence & City of Brass if you can afford them or are willing to proxy them. Cheaper options like Command Tower, Spire of Industry & Gemstone Mine, Forbidden Orchard & Exotic Orchard aren't to be forgotten either.

The only colorless lands I'd consider on a budget are Crystal Vein & Emergence Zone. If budget/proxy constraints aren't an issue, I'd also consider Ancient Tomb, City of Traitors & Boseiju, Who Shelters All.

Also give Mystical Tutor, Enlightened Tutor & Gamble a shot for sure. They just got reprinted, they're super cheap right now! Speaking of sick reprints, Sapphire Medallion, Ruby Medallion, Pearl Medallion & Smothering Tithe have all seen big price drops lately. Gotta strike while the iron is hot, ya know...

Lastly, I'd recommend testing out fellow all-stars Elsha of the Infinite since you're running Sensei's Divining Top so heavily & Kykar, Wind's Fury, which can be utilized as both a wincon & and absurd value engine here with what you've already got going on.

SufferFromEDHD on Narset Voltron

1 year ago

I too have a Narset voltron list. Yours is awesome! My only suggestion to you would be to sub out a few more creatures. You really want Narset to hit big every time. Simple shifts like Consecrated Sphinx becoming Thought Reflection or Elsha of the Infinite becoming Future Sight.

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DemonDragonJ on Crystal Ball or Sensei’s Divining …

1 year ago

I have a copy of Crystal Ball in most of my EDH decks, but, for my Elsha of the Infinite deck, I am wondering if I should replace the ball with Sensei's Divining Top, as the top has clear synergy with Elsha.

What does everyone else say about this? Should I replace Crystal Ball with Sensei's Divining Top?

Sephyrias on Best Commanders in EDH [Tier List] Part 1

2 years ago

Nonary27 There are a lot of competitive/fringe competitive commanders in both sets.

New Capenna

Lagrella, the Magpie serves as Fiend Hunter in the command zone, letting you do sacrifice combos with Karmic Guide. She'll probably end up somewhere close to Saffi Eriksdotter.

Cormela, Glamour Thief combos with reanimator spells like Footsteps of the Goryo as long as you have cost reduction cards like Goblin Electromancer or a sac outlet that generates mana. I think she's pretty strong. Anhelo, the Painter is a grixis version of Kalamax, the Stormsire. Probably the best of the new Grixis commanders. Evelyn, the Covetous is weaker than it looks. I don't think there is an infinite blink/flicker/cloning combo piece that's also a vampire. Probably not better than Vela the Night-Clad, even with the extra color. Lord Xander, the Collector has a big impact on casual tables, but is nowhere near as relevant in competitive play. Would put him somewhere close to Evelyn.

Falco Spara, Pactweaver is an okay value engine, but you have to jump through extra hoops to go infinite with it compared to Elsha of the Infinite, so it will be a few tiers lower than Elsha. Rigo, Streetwise Mentor has to compete with Edric, Spymaster of Trest, they want to do more or less the same thing. I'm not sure if Rigo is better or worse.

Ognis, the Dragon's Lash does the same as Grand Warlord Radha. You get an extra color, but have the restriction regarding haste in exchange. Henzie "Toolbox" Torre is just a bad Grim Haruspex that can serve as pseudo-haste-enabler. Not weak, but also not very strong. Rocco, Cabaretti Caterer is a Wargate for creatures in the command zone. Might be the strongest Naya legend to date, although Marath, Will of the Wild is no joke either. Jolene, the Plunder Queen enables untap combos with Black Market Tycoon, but it just ends up being a much worse version of the Freed from the Real combos that other commanders can do.

None of the others are worth mentioning imo.

Commander Legends 2

Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward is similar to Lagrella, all about Fiend Hunter-type flicker/sacrifice combos. Candlekeep Sage is probably the best background for it. Alaundo the Seer is a simic version of Jhoira of the Ghitu, except that it's slower, but also draws cards. Bhaal, Lord of Murder is more or less an Odric's Outrider in the command zone, but that it only counts for nontoken creatures means you can't combo with Scurry Oak, so it's probably not that great. I think Duke Ulder Ravengard combos with Port Razer?

Gale, Waterdeep Prodigy sort of gives all your instants & sorceries flashback, which is usually very powerful. Not sure how good it ends up being in practice however. Ganax, Astral Hunter is basically just Galazeth Prismari. Kagha, Shadow Archdruid is yet another Golgari recursion commander, which are usually at least decent. Jan Jansen, Chaos Crafter goes infinite with Clock of Omens and Liquimetal Coating.

Baba Lysaga, Night Witch, Bane, Lord of Darkness, Dynaheir, Invoker Adept, Gorion, Wise Mentor and Jaheira, Friend of the Forest have a lot of combo potential, but I'm not sure how to break them yet.

enpc on Deckbuilding Necessities?

2 years ago

TypicalTimmy: While I understand the merit of your comment, I don't agree with the statement that cost reduction is better than ramp. Yes, cost reduction is good but there are lots of times where ramp is just better.

The main issues with cost reduction are:

  • It's very targetted. Most of the time it only affects a colour, or a card type (or even just a specific creature type). This means that while it helps some cards in your deck, it also doesn't help a large handful, unlike traditional ramp.

  • Most of the time it doesn't help with hard costs. Reducing the generic cost is nice, but a lot of places where decks get stuck is paying for hard costs, which most cost reducers don't help with at all. This is exacerbated when a deck is 3+ colours.

  • It does nothing for cheap costed spells. If I'm running a lot of one cost spells, or two cmc completely hard costed spells (think something like Dovin's Veto) then a piece of mana ramp will do just as much as a cost reducer, or in some cases much more.

  • A lot of decks are only playiing one or two spells a turn. If this is the case then reducing one spell by one mana is the same as playing one ramp piece. Don'ty get me wrong, there are decks where the storm count is high and in those decks I fully endorse running cost reducers, but there are a lot of battlecruiser style decks where a ramp spell would have done just as much.

  • The better cost reducers are expensive and generally few and far between. You're looking at 3+ mana for the more flexible ones, where you want your ramp spells to be coming down generally between one and two mana. And even at three mana, cards like Cultivate get you two coloured sources of mana, which then feeds back into my earlier point.

  • Cost reducers will become more high value targets than ramp pieces. While you can destroy a mana rock in the same way, an Urza's Incubator will pull a lot more aggression against it than a Chromatic Lantern. And the loss of the incubator will generally much more negatively affect the deck than the lost of a single ramp piece.

  • A lot of players will only run a few cost reducers in place of the correct amount of ramp. "this does more so I don't have to run as much ramp" is a pretty common deck building attitude that I see (especially in sliver decks - seriously, sliver decks are some of the most unimaginative decks out there) as they expect that something like their Urza's Incubator will be all they need for ramp. But this reduces the overall ramp the deck has which in turn ends up making it slower overall. And I understand that this is a shortcoming of the player, not the cost reducer but I'm still listing it here as it's pretty common.

Don't get me wrong, ther are lots of places where cost reducers do some serious legwork, however it's important to actually assess what the deck is trying to achieve and understanding the pros and cons of each rather than just apply a blanket rule of X > Y.

It's also worth mentioning the decks where they do the most legowrk, the cost reducer is treated more as a combo piece rather than a mana rock substitute, for example with Elsha of the Infinite + Sensei's Divining Top + Helm of Awakening.

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