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| Format | Legality |
| 1v1 Commander | Legal |
| Archenemy | Legal |
| Big Apple Highlander | Legal |
| Canadian Highlander | Legal |
| Casual | Legal |
| Commander / EDH | Legal |
| Commander: Rule 0 | Legal |
| Custom | Legal |
| Duel Commander | Legal |
| Freeform | Legal |
| Highlander | Legal |
| Legacy | Legal |
| Leviathan | Legal |
| Limited | Legal |
| Oathbreaker | Legal |
| Planar Constructed | Legal |
| Planechase | Legal |
| PreDH | Legal |
| Premodern | Legal |
| Quest Magic | Legal |
| Tiny Leaders | Legal |
| Vanguard | Legal |
| Vintage | Legal |
Cursed Scroll
Artifact
, : Name a card. Reveal a card at random from your hand. If it's the named card, Cursed Scroll deals 2 damage to target creature or player.
2000AD on
Browbeat Burn
7 months ago
BenniatorCongrats on scoring the Scrolls for that price! Envious but always love to hear someone got on the train at a good time for things like that. I understand your POV on it, and you ultimately know the deck better than I, so I defer to your knowledge there. I only had a couple instances where I thought: "Well, I'm empty ... sure wouldn't mind a Cursed Scroll and a top-deck Fireblast right now" lol. Tempest was the first set I actively started buying, so I've got lots of fond memories of THAT one-two punch!
Speaking of ... tell me if you've ever heard this old urban legend: A player had an empty hand and a Scroll on the table with their opponent down to 6 life. Upon drawing, he finds only a Mountain, but instead of naming it - he acts 100% as if he has drawn a Fireblast instead. Supposedly, as the legend goes, he activates the Scroll, holding up the Mountain with the back of the card facing his opponent, and says: "I'll Cursed Scroll you, naming Fireblast." His opponent, knowing that combination means it's curtains and he's finished, scoops up his cards without actually LOOKING to see if the named card is indeed what the Scroll player is indeed holding. Further, the Scroll player was said to have never revealed this bluff to the opponent, relying instead on the concession to seal the deal.
I'm curious to see who else has heard this.
I personally am a HUGE fan of Price of Progress in any matchup where nonbasic lands are nearly the whole of the law...and Premodern is definitely a lot like Legacy and Vintage in that way. I currently hang out, for the most part, playing a format called 93/94 Oldschool, but your deck here is 100% made up of cards that were in Standard (then called "Type 2") when I was a much younger man and playing weekly down at FNM events, etc. I was quite enamored to see Browbeat getting some love - myself and one other person I know are the only two people I have ever seen touting it as useful. Most folks I talk to are dismissive of it, so kudos for having what I call "the extra brain cells" to appreciate it! It's one of those "Sophie's Choice" sorta things in the right hands ... draw 3, which you don't want this deck or a deck full of haste creatres/burn to be doing...or take 5 to the face. Neither of them are great options lol.
capwner on
5c Twisted Tribe (Premodern)
7 months ago
Mainboard Naturalize is kind of a hedge vs stuff like Cursed Scroll which makes life really difficult and ray can't clear it. Could ofc run Disenchant or Seal of Cleansing, I picked naturalize though because white is my main color, so if they give something pro-green in rsp I'll at least be able to still block it.
SufferFromEDHD on
the other Neheb
7 months ago
Cursed Scroll ignorance is bliss ;) Works great with hellbent! (Draw for turn. 1 card in hand because hellbent strategy. Guaranteed 2 colorless damage. Rinse & repeat)
General_Pasta on
the other Neheb
7 months ago
Yeah, this is a Null Brooch deck as much as it is a minotaur deck xD
No reason to run Squee, Goblin Nabob
, because I don't want cards in my hand for effects like Ghirapur Orrery, Case of the Crimson Pulse, and Anthem of Rakdos.
Cursed Scroll is one of the most god-awful cards I've seen in my life, and makes me think you don't know what you're talking about, unfortunately. Also doesn't work Hellbent.
I don't want tutors or changelings (you see no Taurean Mauler either).
SufferFromEDHD on
the other Neheb
7 months ago
<3 Null Brooch <3
Squee, Goblin Nabob is crucial in discard strategies
Cursed Scroll consistent damage from a colorless source
Gamble + Increasing Ambition tutors that fit within the theme
Mutavault solid minotaur
SufferFromEDHD on
Jhoira Draw Fast Win
8 months ago
Tolaria West would be Urza Saga #2. Can't be countered.
Gamble is the greatest tutor in MTG! Try to look at it through the lense of Cursed Scroll it takes set-up but when executed correctly the randomness is actually a benefit. Your deck is going to have huge hands. This puts the discard percentage in your favor. You would now have access to a style tutor in
wallisface on Mono Red Control/Mill (Premodern)
2 years ago
halanvaina My main suggestion is to stop trying to build a deck around Crumbling Sanctuary... 5 mana is far too high for a card that only lets you begin to enact a plan. It also undoes any work you've done towards defeating your opponent before its cast.
Good red cards i'm seeing in the meta include:
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Cursed Scroll (late game damage when you're at 1 card)
^ all of the above seem to be fairly frequently used within the meta, as seen from the links already provided in my last post.
From your statement "Mono red is a difficult color to work with outside of aggro" - yes this is true. But one thing worth noting is that your deck isn't doing any of the typical things a non-aggro deck would be doing... so your current build is kindof aggro, just extremely slow. If you're wanting to build towards Midrange or Control, you need a LOT more interaction with the opponent to slow them down. If you're wanting your deck to be more geared towards Combo, then you need to have reliable ways to win the game extremely quickly. In any case you can't decide to be both a slow deck and a non-interactive deck - your deck needs to either be very fast, or very interactive (that is the case for all decks generally speaking).
From your other comments:
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What specifically do you think Feldon's Cane is helping you with? You keep defending it in a super vague way but I'm seeing absolutely zero reason to be running it (I also just re-read Crumbling Sanctuary and realised Feldon's Cane doesn't even help with that, so I honestly have no idea what value you think this artifact is bringing).
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The problem with Devastating Dreams is that it costs you and your opponent the same amount of lands and creatures - your deck includes both of these so you're unlikely to make any big advantages in this area (especially as your deck needs a LOT of lands to function). But then, it additionally costs you (and only you) a bunch of cards from your hand. I don't see how that every advantages you.
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On your comment "It does damage to each creature, and makes the both of us sac ideally all of our lands". What do you gain from losing all your lands? As the opponent almost-assuredly has a lower mana-curve than you, won't they just get back into the game quicker? Especially as they'll still have a hand of cards. Yes it can work with Mogg Maniac but your deck isn't geared around pulling off this combo so it feels unlikely to give you a payoff high enough to warrant this interaction.
My suggestions would be as follows:
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What archetype are you wanting this deck to slot into? If its aggro, you need to drastically lower the mana-curve (i.e, have nothing over 3 mana. You need to be able to reliably apply enough pressure to deal lethal by turn 4-5). If it's midrange, you still need to lower the mana-curve a bunch, but additionally you need a bunch of cards that interact with your opponents boardstate and slow them down. If it's control, you need to have the vast majority of your deck as interactive pieces and game-controlling effects. If its combo, you need to reliably be able to win the game by turn 4-5.
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Once you know what archetype you're wanting to build, you need to decide what strategy you're wanting to enact here... so far it feels like there's no clear direction going on - I can assume by the name of the deck you're wanting to base this around Crumbling Sanctuary, which I can't ever see working unless you're building some form of control-shell, which will likely need more than just red as a colour-base. But in any case, you need to ditch all cards that aren't either enacting your plan, or strengthening the archetype you're in.
If you'd like I can try and build you some kind of example list, though i'd need to have a clear indicator to the answers of the above 2 questions on archetype and strategy.
SufferFromEDHD on
All Roads Lead To Hellbent
2 years ago
Ever piloted Lyzolda before? I think her ideal competitive direction would be tokens for endless fodder. I wanted to highlight Hellbent since she was the legend from Dissension.
Lion's Eye Diamond + Rakdos Pit Dragon a simple synergy I have never utilized before.
Rakdos Augermage ever played with this jank? Was a first for me. I think this has potential in EDH. Treat it like Cursed Scroll and use it when you have 1 card. Don't give your opponents a choice (madness, flashback, reanimator, etc) mana cost is funky but first strike is nice.
Null Brooch is the MVP, of course.
