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|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Common|
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Creature — Sliver
All Sliver creatures have poisonous 1. (Whenever a Sliver deals combat damage to a player, that player gets a poison counter. A player with ten or more poison counters loses the game.)
Virulent Sliver Discussion
2 weeks ago
I love Slivers, and am more than excited to give you my two cents- however, I have a major pet peeve when it comes to deck descriptions, specifically the lack of a deck description which your page has. When you don't include a detailed description it's hard for me to get a feel for how you want to your deck to play. Plus, it'll be a big help for you as you can put some thought into how you want your Sliver deck to play...as Slivers are the most flexible tribe in all of magic (and for those of you who doubt that, or want to argue- fight me :P). So yeah, get your deck description right- here are some resources you can use to help you get started:
End Rant. So, onward onto actual suggestions. Since you're running Sliver Overlord you are going to go for a more control oriented deck. You'll likely want to focus on Slivers that help you keep a stranglehold on the board as you won't need any of the Lord Sliver s. They're simply irrelevant as you are rarely going to be swinging wide with this commander. I would just include the one Sliver Lord that actually matters: Sliver Legion .
- Acidic Sliver - sacrificing Slivers is never ideal unless you are getting the better end of the deal. Sac-ing a Sliver to deal a paltry 2 damage isn't worth it. Cut.
- Diffusion Sliver - doesn't really work in commander. Paying an extra to remove a pesky creature in Commander is hardly a tax. This card is only good in standard where you could play multiple copies of this card, and make that tax potentially or . Cut.
- Morophon, the Boundless feels more like a win-more card - essentially it's a card that only helps you if you're already ahead. Cut.
- Opaline Sliver - generally, you don't want your Slivers to be targeted at all by your opponents(hint Crystalline Sliver ) - not to mention this card is a total non-combo or non-bo with the previously mentioned sliver. Cut.
- Shadow Sliver - losing the ability to block for evasion is a risky gamble. Since Overlord is the more Control oriented Sliver and doesn't really encourage an aggro play style this sliver will rarely afford you an advantage. You have better options for evasion in the deck already (in my opinion.) Cut.
- Tempered Sliver - This Sliver only benefits you if you were playing a more aggro style deck - and also if you could play multiple copies. Getting a +1/+1 counter only if your slivers can hit the opponent is okay...but I think you could better use the card slot for something else. Cut.
- Virulent Sliver - This Sliver is cute, but unfortunately doesn't offer much in the way of a valid alternate win option. Definitely another win-more card, as you'll need 10 separate instances of combat damage on each opponent. Honestly, that's not really feasible in my opinion - unless you had 4 of these in your deck. But alas, that is a Sliver that doesn't really benefit you. Cut.
- Ward Sliver - This one i'm a little bit uncertain on as protection can be incredibly handy depending on the circumstance - but for ? That's a hefty asking price. I think you could put that mana to better use elsewhere. Cut.
So that's it for my recommendations regarding what Slivers to cut. As for the rest of you deck, i'll save those recommendations for when you can give me a bit more information on how you want your deck to play - are you looking for a more aggro play style? If so, i'd recommend Sliver Hivelord or Sliver Legion honestly - but that's for a later conversation. Look forward to your response - i'm always happy to see another Sliver deck - Chitinous Approval Ensues
1 month ago
Totally agree that 2 cost rocks > 3 cost rocks and I'm going to make some changes in that regard. Specifically, I'll be replacing Commander's Sphere + Darksteel Ingot with a Fellwar Stone + Arcane Signet once that's released.
Messing around with The First Sliver has taught me that topdeck manipulation matters so I'll be making some changes to assist with that (e.g. Mirri's Guile + Sensei's Divining Top ) and both of those tutors you've suggested help with that game plan. I'll definitely be slotting in Worldly Tutor but I don't have a spare Vampiric Tutor kicking around. If I ever get one I'll swap out Mystical Tutor for it.
I also agree with your 'needs to be faster' assessment. On top of the cheaper cc rocks I mentioned up there, I also may reduce the utility land count by 1 or 2 ( Arcane Lighthouse sticks out) and slot in a clutch ramp spell like Skyshroud Claim , possibly 1 or 2 of the spells you mentioned.
1 month ago
Montezuma2 Virulent Sliver ok no idea how i missed this card, but i am definitely put it in, thanks for the suggestion, as for Hivestone its mainly there to turn token creatures produced by Assemble the Legion and Retreat to Emeria into slivers and was thinking of also adding Birthing Boughs , which doesn't benefit hivestone, but its there to flood the board with slivers.
1 month ago
Virulent Sliver is another good wincon.
Personally, I feel like 37 lands is too many. You can easily get down to 32 or 33 while ramping faster. Check out Crop Rotation , Sylvan Scrying , Carpet of Flowers , and Mana Vault they're all great ramp.
Over all this deck is strong, lots of control. I like that! Only thing you really need is for it to be faster.
1 month ago
You need Mana Echoes
Sliver Overlord is the better commander.
Consider adding a Morophon, the Boundless
39 creatures is too many imo. Check out my sliver deck for more ideas: Cha cha real smooth
3 months ago
3 months ago
I've said it before, and I'll say it again - making a new keyword mechanic for what is functionally the same thing is, all at once, silly, confusing, and, in many cases, much less about the flavor of the mechanic as it is trying to claim a section or ability without crediting its precursers.
Prior to New Phyrexia, we had 2 mechanics going in that would have... well, I hesitate to say "solved", so lets go with "staunched the bleeding of" many of the mechanical issues of this set;
what we got was a nightmare - infect.
don't get me wrong - poison counters have a solid place in magic - from Marsh Viper to Swamp Mosquito , all the way up to Virulent Sliver , there is a long list of toxic win conditions that rarely saw play, but had their own niche to mess around with (and ultimately inspiring deathtouch, when paired with basilisks, but I digress).
The problem was that the cards:
2) existed alongside a mechanic that augmented the toxic strategy with zero interaction
and worst of all, 3) allowed pump spells and effects to directly impact the toxic stratigem.
From a compeditive standpoint, all of this added together into what is, without a doubt in my mind, the least interesting deck I have ever seen. Tree Fiddy - named after the south park meme, when the initial cards that made the deck in modern totalled to be approx $3.48 - is an aggro - pump infect deck. the goal was to hit your opponent turn 2 for leathal poison. yes, you read that correctly. Turn 2. Turn 1 is Forest + Glistener elf, turn 2 is Forest, swing, and some combination of giant growth effects, usually Might of Old Krosa , Groundswell and Mutagenic Growth . Scale Up is a recent addition, and likely will make modern even more unfun to play.
I have played magic, abet off and on, since 1995. New phyrexia was one of the sets that broke my will to play the game, something that has happened only 2 other times - once from being unemployed for 6 months, requiring me to sell my cards to make rent, and once after Urza's block when I was too poor to play anything other than the discarded commons after a draft.
Now, I say this as a proud Johnny / Vorthos: if the game lasts for less than 4 turns, it isn't worth the time spent to unpack my deck. I played through Zoo 1.0 in Ravnica / Kamagawa block, and that wasn't enough to break my resolve. But New Phyrexia's Infect mechanic? that was a final straw.
Virulent Sliver occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%