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Virulent Sliver
Creature — Sliver
All Sliver creatures have poisonous 1. (Whenever a Sliver deals combat damage to a player, that player gets a poison counter. A player with ten or more poison counters loses the game.)
YorkshireSamurai on There’s only one Sliver Overlord
1 year ago
Greetings good sir! Thank you for the idea.
Guardian Project is a very good suggestion. The reason I run Lifecrafter's Bestiary is for the scry as it works with things like Herald's Horn.
Rhystic Study (along with Guardian Project) are somethings I run in other decks so I'm keen to diversify. Black Market Connections also ramps with the treasure and makes shapeshifting Slivers so I do like it.
Obilterate is a card I've always had a affinity for so that's why it's in over another wrath effect. Plus it's foil and can't be countered.
Virulent Sliver is there for the incidental poison and also because I need cheap early Slivers to turn into mana dorks(same with Muscle Sliver).
Intruder Alarm is something a few people have suggested and may just have to be added. I keep Chromatic Lantern out (it was in before) because the mana base is already good and I don't like rocks that can be easily destroyed. Harmonic Sliver can be a double-edged sword.
Coat of Arms is something I've recently thought about taking out for sure. It stays because it came with the original box and is easy to cast. (Call it nostalgia).
Sedge Sliver is an excellent suggestion. I'll be making space for that (might be Coat of Arms tbh).
Thank you for the suggestions. I'll take them on board and go check out your deck.
Doombeard1984 on There’s only one Sliver Overlord
1 year ago
Hi there...
So logged onto Tapped Out, and another Sliver Overlord deck (your's in case you didnt guess) caught my eye. This pleases the Hive.
So firstly, will alway be a +1 for Sliver decks.
If I may, a couple of suggestions.
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Lifecrafter's Bestiary swap for Guardian Project or The Great Henge You can get your draw then, without sacrificing green mana to allow the draw.
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Black Market Connections (its a large life cost for very little gain swap for Rhystic Study Gives you repeatable draw WITHOUT sacrificing life.
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Obliterate swap for Jokulhaups Its a just a cheaper better wrath honestly lol. Can keep your draw enchantments up too and Cryptolith Rite if you have it, giving massive mana advantage.
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Virulent Sliver (honestly, 1 poison counter is not worth it lol) + Intruder Alarm Intruder Alarm will give you another way to combo out and put every sliver you have into play tutoring with Sliver Overlord. If you can make infinite tokens (from Sliver Queen) will combo with Lavabelly Sliver for the win.
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Muscle Sliver swap for Chromatic Lantern Having played slivers for many many years, trample is so marginally important. You have total evasion with Shifting Sliver, Cloudshredder Sliver et al. Trample is just not that important. What is important... having available as often as possible.
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Coat of Arms swap for Shared Animosity Means your attack bonuses only effect you
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Predatory Sliver swap for Sedge Sliver If you have a Swamp you can regenerate, and you get the +1/+1... so strictly better
Hope you dont mind me putting my 2 pence/cents/whatever currency. If you would like to look at my deck, please just head over to my hive: Sliver Overlord - Predatory Super-Organisms
Doombeard1984 on There’s only one Sliver Overlord
1 year ago
Hi there...
So logged onto Tapped Out, and another Sliver Overlord deck (your's in case you didnt guess) caught my eye. This pleases the Hive.
So firstly, will alway be a +1 for Sliver decks.
If I may, a couple of suggestions.
-
Lifecrafter's Bestiary + Guardian Project or The Great Henge You can get your draw then, without sacrificing green mana to allow the draw.
-
Black Market Connections (its a large life cost for very little gain + Rhystic Study Gives you repeatable draw WITHOUT sacrificing life.
-
Obliterate + Jokulhaups Its a just a cheaper better wrath honestly lol. Can keep your draw enchantments up too and Cryptolith Rite if you have it, giving massive mana advantage.
-
Virulent Sliver (honestly, 1 poison counter is not worth it lol) + Intruder Alarm Intruder Alarm will give you another way to combo out and put every sliver you have into play tutoring with Sliver Overlord. If you can make infinite tokens (from Sliver Queen) will combo with Lavabelly Sliver for the win.
-
Muscle Sliver + Chromatic Lantern Having played slivers for many many years, trample is so marginally important. You have total evasion with Shifting Sliver, Cloudshredder Sliver et al. Trample is just not that important. What is important... having available as often as possible.
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Coat of Arms + Shared Animosity Means your attack bonuses only effect you
-
Predatory Sliver + Sedge Sliver If you have a Swamp you can regenerate, and you get the +1/+1... so strictly better
Hope you dont mind me putting my 2 pence/cents/whatever currency. If you would like to look at my deck, please just head over to my hive: Sliver Overlord - Predatory Super-Organisms
legendofa on Why is Infect Not Returning?
1 year ago
I guess nobody's really spamming Virulent Sliver and Strionic Resonator, or holding back a Nimble Obstructionist for Snake Cult Initiation triggers...
For the sake of devil's advocacy and nitpicking, though, deathtouch was templated as a triggered ability on Thornweald Archer and stayed that way until Zendikar (Giant Scorpion). Why not re-template poisonous? I'm not sure the connotations of poisonous and toxic are that different.
legendofa on Why is Infect Not Returning?
1 year ago
poisonous 1. (Whenever [this creature] deals combat damage to a player, that player gets a poison counter. A player with ten or more poison counters loses the game.) Virulent Sliver
Toxic 1 (Players dealt combat damage by this creature also get a poison counter.) Karumonix, the Rat King
Poisonous is a triggered ability, Toxic is an additional effect. Otherwise, they're identical.
How much of a difference will this change make?
Doombeard1984 on
1 year ago
So I would probably suggest changing Crypt Sliver for Sedge Sliver. Reason for this is because Crystalline Sliver and Crypt Sliver are a NonBo as you cant target the slivers with the ability.
I would also probably change Shadow Sliver for Shifting Sliver. Gives you the ability to block others, but you can't be blocked. Shadow Sliver is a double edged sword, as you also can't block.
You have the option of another mana Sliver in the form of Gemhide Sliver. Trust me, Mana is your most required asset. I would drop Virulent Sliver as, to be honest, I would not genuinely expect to win with poison counters. And if this was a win con I would be going hard on it, not just a 1 chance.
As the aim of your deck is to go wide, I would be tempted to go with Shared Animosity to pump your attack power.
You have Spiteful Sliver in there, why not include Blasphemous Act? with enough creatures, this in itself can kill off your opponents.
Heart Sliver replacing Reflex Sliver is a strict upgrade. Cheaper and still gives haste.
I would question the value of Spinneret Sliver when you already have 2 slivers giving you flying.
If you are going wide Horned Sliver could be an option, however may not be needed. I would be more inclined to go with a Synapse Sliver. Need to keep that grip full of more Slivers to power the Hive.
Now... onto the mana base...
I would strongly suggest getting more dual color lands which can come into play UNTAPPED. We are in a very intensive deck, and getting to that is super important. Chromatic Lantern could be super useful, and you may also wish to replace something with Morophon, the Boundless.
Whilst ABUR duals are super expesive, and to an extent Fetchlands too, Shocklands (Godless Shrine etc.) and Bondlands (Morphic Pool etc.) may be more accessible. You could look at the Filter lands too, or checks. I just think this could essentially speed up the deck exponentially
I will have another think about some other bits as well and will get back to you :)
SadistkSuffring on The first or The overlord
2 years ago
I've had mine for about 3 months. Overlord is the way to go. Don't know if you have them but you can fish for Basal Sliver , Sliver Queen and Lavabelly Sliver . Go infinite an peck your enemies to death. If they manage to stop that somehow before it happens the fish for Virulent Sliver . Cascade is seemingly awesome but chances are you may get to cast one more sliver since most are around 2 or 3 mana and you can only cascade into a lower cost card. Being able to tutor for any card is priceless.
jaminfine on The First Sliver
2 years ago
Consider removing:
Virulent Sliver because it's ability is basically useless. Poison won't be a game winner. Even against infinite life decks, it's far more likely you'll win with commander damage before poison.
Darkheart Sliver because why would you ever want to sacrifice a sliver to gain 3 life?
Consider adding:
Magma Sliver because BIG DAMAGE means one hit kill with your commander!
Shadow Sliver because it is a cheaper version of Shifting Sliver and has basically the same ability. Nice to have both in the deck because unblockable slivers are very powerful!
Quick Sliver because casting slivers at instant speed allows you insane flexibility that your opponents won't be able to respond to effectively.
Consider replacing Crystalline Sliver with Opaline Sliver because the crystal sounds good until you realize it prevents Crypt Sliver and Magma Sliver from functioning.
Consider replacing Fellwar Stone with Arcane Signet because it's a better card.
Consider replacing Blur Sliver with Heart Sliver because it's less mana and quite similar
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