Stromkirk Condemned

Stromkirk Condemned

Creature — Vampire

Discard a card: Vampires you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. Activate this ability only once each turn.

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Stromkirk Condemned Discussion

VampRamped on What is a Man? (a hyper aggro Edgar Markov EDH)

3 months ago

YamishiTheWickedOne

Very Nice Aggro Edgar Markov list especially for a deck that is your first foray into commander. The Main problem I see you running into with this deck is that it is very soft to board wipes, and you will almost certainly lose the game if one resolves. I would recommend including Teferi's Protection , Flawless Maneuver , Boros Charm , Make a Stand , Unbreakable Formation , and Patriarch's Bidding . While these cards are skillful to utilize and require an understanding of your opponent's decks to know when to leave up mana to utilize them you will find you will be grateful to have them and win more often because of them.

Necropotence is an insanely strong card advantage engine especially in Edgar Markov that I would highly recommend as it allows the deck to continue to have the steam it needs going into midgame and mid-late game. In fact, when I am going for the aggressive strategy in my own deck it is the first card I tutor for if I can. Champion of Dusk , Pact of the Serpent , and Stinging Study are almost as good and serves the same purpose.

Stromkirk Condemned Is a pretty strong lord that most games you should have the land to pitch to it to boost your board, especially if you include some of the card advantage I recommended.

Reconnaissance Is also an amazing card for an aggressive strategy as it essentially gives all your creatures vigilance and you can remove any unfavorable blocks in combat.

For cards to remove to play them I will suggest cutting cards in different area's that I think have their advantages but probably benefit your decks aggro plan the least

Zealous Persecution and Vampiric Fury are not very necessary for yours deck. If you have not seen it already in time you will find that your anthem affects lords Shared Animosity , and Sanctum Seeker will be more than sufficient to win the game. Additionally, the card is quite soft to fog effects which are not too uncommon in commanders.

Anointed Procession is simply a card that is too slow for what an aggressive Edgar Markov deck wants to be doing and is much more suited to midrange aristocrat lists. Spending 4 mana for an effect that does not do anything is too slow and you would much rather want to be playing things like Sanctum Seeker , Vampire Nocturnus , and Bloodline Keeper  Flip

Abrade , Dismember , and Nameless Inversion have two main problems. For one when you are playing an aggressive Edgar Markov deck you are committing to winning the early mid-game so spending the time you need to kill your opponents interacting with their board states is not doing you any favors. Secondly, as an aggro deck the only permanents that are outright going to stop you are Magus of the Tabernacle , Windborn Muse , Propaganda , Ghostly Prison , Collective Restraint , Sphere of Safety , and Humility so if your going to play removal spells in your aggro deck the spell at a minimum should target enchantments though creatures as well can be valuable.

Obelisk of Urd Is ok but is probably to expensive on mana and you would rather be punching with creatures than using them to convoke this spell out.

Bloodcrazed Paladin is really only good when there is a board wipe and that is the last thing you want to happen to your board so would not recommend playing a creature that's only strength is to give you a measly benefit in the worst-case scenario.

Bloodthrone Vampire is not very good in aggro since you want to have as many creatures around as possible for all of your tribal payoffs and since your deck is not particularly geared towards and Edgar Markov Aristocrats Strat.

Stoneforge Mystic and Steelshaper's Gift help you get Skullclamp but you probably don't want to be looking for that card too hard especially if you play Necropotence , or Champion of Dusk as I recommended as you don't have to sacrifice your board state to get card advantage when a wide board state is exactly what you are looking for. Additionally, you are not playing too many sacrifice effects anyway so when you play a lord it effectively turns off your Skullclamp .

Those would be my additions and removals for your removals but your the one who gets to play the deck so make adjustments to suit your playgroup and what you want to get out of the deck. Feel free to check out my own Edgar Markov Deck A Vampire Storm *Primer*, not the exact same strategy as your deck, but you may find some useful advice in my section on my mindset of how I play Edgar Markov aggressively. Would be happy to hear your thoughts on my suggestions as well as what you think of my own deck.

lagotripha on budget mono-black aggro/devotion

3 months ago

I've played a bunch of mono black in modern. It is great for FNM, but will probs never put up tournament results.

The deck lives on sideboarding and the sheer variety of options available - your opponent has no idea if you are aggro, midrange grindy or combo until turn three or four. This means that published decklists and scouting in major tournaments strips away its biggest advantage.

Cards to mess around with;

Duress (and the million variants) - hitting a Life Goes On can be 'more damage' than any 1 drop.

Gifted Aetherborn - it completes the dire moon / nighthawk trio, and helps with tribal vampire options like Stromkirk Condemned or Captivating Vampire

Stromkirk Condemned and stuff like Zombie Infestation lets you play with discard synergies - pitching your hand then casting symetrical discard, or getting back demigod.

Lashwrithe If you want an equip in mono black on a budget, it is this. Its scary on its own, strapped to a nighthawk it boosts your life total to massive levels.

Ratchet Bomb used to be the only enchantment answer, but Feed the Swarm has really patched that hole and made the deck a lot more solid.

Sign in Blood - draw two is good. Two damage is good to finish an opponent sometimes too.

There are a bunch of 'return to the battlefield' 1 drops that can help create tempo by flooding the board and provide fodder for sacrifice effects - Bloodsoaked Champion , Dread Wanderer , Tenacious Dead etc.

If you want to do it the other way, effects like Unearth let you keep key creatures on the battlefield, while synergysing neatly with stuff like Profane Command to hit face.

Finally, play to mono-black's biggest advantage, reliability. Lots of decks focus on hands that can 'just win the game', mono black does an amazing job at getting a hand that is 'better than the opponent'. Not an incredible hand, but a little disruption and a lot of 'good cards', no chance of getting mana screwed, and far less need to mulligan.

Apollo_Paladin on Ultra-Budget Speed Dredge (2x 5-Card "Gold Hands")

4 months ago

@ darkbuff

This is a budget build as a concept deck, so I intentionally stayed away from high-dollar cards. In actual practice, I don't see many high-dollar cards that offer as good or as reliable an option as my current selections - with the exemption of Entomb . Entomb would be a stupid good fit here, but ordering a playset of those is easily equal (if not more) than the entire cost of the rest of the deck. Reanimate could fall into the same category, if you're not playing in a group where Mill decks or Discard decks are common, you might see better use out of this in place of Dread Return , but my main consideration with it is the budget not its functionality. Functionally it's beautiful, I just feel it opens the deck up to a wider audience using budget cards, and with Dread Return usable for zero mana from the GY (can discard it via a discard outlet creature, then sacrifice 3x low-mana weenie creatures to cast it). This can sometimes be useful if you want to say, pump up your vampires with Stromkirk Condemned , attack, and end the turn by sacrificing the vamps and pulling an Annihilator from the GY to set up the next turn.

As for the creatures, there's a lot of high-power creatures you can pick from if budget is no issue. Honestly though even something like Iona doesn't seem as reliable to me (not to suggest it's a bad choice either). Some of it is playgroup dependent, but in Legacy especially with a lot of the newer sets, Colorless stuff isn't unheard of. There's really no workaround an opponent can muster for Annihilator creatures, since even if something on their side has protection, it's a sacrifice not a targeted ability -- and also the main consideration for early board control, those other creatures cannot affect Lands.

These Annihilator creatures can usually cause an opponent to start losing at LEAST 1 land per attack phase, especially if you get them out early enough before they can cast too many things. There's not much coming back from a deck that's causing you to sacrifice your own lands on Turn 3 or 4 - hell, forced land sacrifice is even a workaround for high-dollar stuff like Cascading Cataracts and Lotus Field since the Indestructible/Hexproof effects are worthless against sacrifice.

CaptainCSMcK on Copilul Noptii

1 year ago

YamishiTheWickedOne

Thanks again for your help. When I first started with this deck I wanted something aggressive and ended up playing my hand very quickly, which is why I needed Asylum Visitor and then Stromkirk Condemned to capitalize on that. But I'm not sure if it's working as well as it could, so I will definitely try out some cards you suggested!

I want to avoid an aristocrats type deck, and I didn't want a deck that only plays small creatures and then buffs, I wanted a little more variety but still competitive.

I'd love to include Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet but unfortunately, he breaks my budget. I'm only hesitant with Indulgent Aristocrat because I never really find the creatures I want to sacrifice besides Bloodghast...

Apollo_Paladin on Ultra-Budget Speed Dredge (2x 5-Card "Gold Hands")

1 year ago

@ joe_mama_joe

Hey, thanks for the suggestion and for taking a peek at the deck. However, none of the annihilators in this deck are set up to be hand-cast. It's actually much quicker and reliable to dredge them out using this deck's mechanic; and colorless mana doesn't do a whole lot for any of my quick-play combos. Dread Return is the only creature dredge it could trigger, with Exhume still requiring a Black despite being only 2 CMC.

Purely colorless mana also completely prevents me from casting some of my key early-play Combo cards in the deck such as Putrid Imp and Culling the Weak, as well as some key Support/Backup options such as Unearth and Stromkirk Condemned. For that reason alone I'm not a fan since it could throw off Land ratios too much (I was already apprehensive about Dakmor Salvage going in just because it enters tapped; not having a Black option seems really limiting here)

Not saying they wouldn't help at all, but apart from being more of a mid-game focus (which this deck doesn't really need since it tends to have games in the bag by turn 4 or 5 at the latest) this is also something of a budget deck as a concept so singles like Ancient Tomb are definitely out for me unfortunately. Especially, since as you pointed out, you really want multiples in a deck which runs & relies on them).

If you end up doing a clone build of this deck to playtest and toss some in, I'd still be interested to hear how they work in conjunction with the strategies outlined in the deck description.

Cheers!

Undead_Assassin on The Vampire Mechanic

1 year ago

I'm not sure if the following cards are remotely playable in constructed.

Butcher's Glee

Murder

Necrobite

There are simply better options in these slots, Urge to Feed, Feast of Blood, Victim of Night, Go for the Throat, Duress, Vampire Hexmage, Indulgent Aristocrat, Stromkirk Condemned all would have better utility in the modern format and are all very budget friendly.

Sorin, Imperious Bloodlord, Thoughtseize, Champion of Dusk more copies of Captivating Vampire, would be the $$$$$$ upgrades I would suggest.

skrai on Insatiable Thirst

1 year ago

Hey BRG24. I actually had just changed this list pretty drastically, putting in Asylum Visitor, Olivia's Bloodsworn, and Stensia Masquerade, so I'd like to test the current list before making extensive edits. In a previous version of this list, I've run Stromkirk Condemned, and everytime I got it out I found that it just didn't do enough, so I ended up replacing it for the Asylum Visitor. I do like the idea of Incorrigible Youths as an aggressive turn 3 play, but I did just put in the bloodsworn which can give itself or others haste depending on the turn/situation, and I think that flexibility could be more worth it in the long run. I think I may put in a couple Olivia, Mobilized for War because the deck could use some closing power. I used Key to the City back a while ago, and I found that most of the time it just put me back on card advantage and activating the untap ability just fit too awkwardly. That being said, since you've experienced great success with it, I think I may give it another go before dismissing it fully. Lastly, I may experiment with Furyblade Vampire because I like the inherent trample to push damage through, but there are a lot of 2 drops in this deck as is, so I'm not sure how worth it it would be. Thanks for taking the time to comment!

BRG24 on Insatiable Thirst

1 year ago

Cool deck. I’ve built a similar one based more around the madness mechanic and have been running it for years with lots of success. If you’re wanting to go down that route, and I note your have many of the key pieces already (Falkenrath Gorger, Stensia Masquerade, Asylum Visitor), I have a few suggestions. Furyblade Vampire and Incorrigible Youths allow for a very aggressive curve, giving you a lot of attacking power turn 3. Stromkirk Condemned is another nice card that can push you through for the win, although the mana cost might be slightly awkward. The really nice card though would be Key to the City. Giving your creatures unblockable for the price of being able to cast another spell is great value, especially when combined with Stensia Masquerade or perhaps a Bloodmad Vampire another decent include. Finally, Olivia, Mobilized for War is a great card that enables amazing turns that an just end games. As I said, this is for if you want to turn this into more of a madness vampire deck, and I’m not sure if that’s where you want to take it, but I hope this has been of help to you.

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