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Artifact Creature — Leviathan
Islandwalk (This creature can't be blocked as long as defending player controls an Island.)
Shroud (This creature can't be the target of spells or abilities.)
Inkwell Leviathan Discussion
3 months ago
The big question is, 'how competitive'.
First things, flat upgrades and options. Elvish Mystic can be another four llanowar elves, cards like Skinshifter tend to perform better than Fog Bank , Elvish Rejuvenator is usually better than borderland ranger and even Farhaven Elf is bettered by Sakura-Tribe Elder . In terms of big threats, things that can't be hit by your opponent are popular. Inkwell Leviathan , Kalonian Behemoth , Plated Crusher , Drownyard Behemoth etc. Another popular type is cards that help you stabilize- Pelakka Wurm type effects.
In terms of stratgy, focusing on mana curve will do a lot. Plan turns 1-7, and try to make sure that doing one thing flows cleanly into the next thing.
If you want to get super competitive, Arbor Elf , Utopia Sprawl and Birds of Paradise is the core of this deck style. Traditionally, it ramps into 4-5 drop threats, which are the largest spells not-cheated in modern. 1 drop turn 1, 3 drop turn two, 5 drop turn three. Thragtusk is old school with it, but there are various five drops that perform well enough, and most of it fits into the 'ponza' land destruction archetype or other ramp strategies (titan, combos, etc) when you want to go full spike.
Now for the middle roads- the fun kitchen table stuff. Leyline of Abundance offers huge payoffs for playing a lot of 1 drop mana dorks. Quest for Ula's Temple / Slinn Voda, the Rising Deep / Whelming Wave offers a cute tribal strategy, while things like Quicksilver Amulet let you cheat big stuff into play. Mirror Image / Quasiduplicate / Saheeli, Sublime Artificer / Tendershoot Dryad is a cute 'go wide' strategy which lets you mess around with Mirrorweave .
If you can think of it, theres a combination of cards that let you do it somewhere in magic- the trick is getting them to run smoothly.
3 months ago
Speaking as something of an EDH sadist, you should run Curiosity . Enchanting Niv-Mizzet, Parun and then drawing a card creates a loop, provided you continue targeting opponents with the ping. Unfortunately, in EDH you're usually going to have to deal 120 damage to win, and this loop only works so long as you have cards in your library. So in all likelihood, you'll only kill one and a half opponents. You can end the loop by targeting a creature (including your general, if he's the only one on the field), in order to not deck yourself.
One solution to this is to add Timetwister effects. The card itself is in excess of $2,000 these days, so, if you have that kind of money, just buy a small boat. Consider Day's Undoing , Diminishing Returns , Clear the Mind or Time Spiral in addition to your Echo of Eons ... If you cast these after drawing your deck with the Curiosity loop, you can continue shooting people.
Completely shifting gears, I love that you're running Ponder and Brainstorm . Xerox cantrips like these dig you to what you need and past what you don't. Preordain is similarly busted, and Brainstorm goes from good to great with shuffle effects like your Evolving Wilds or Terramorphic Expanse . The Zendikar/Onslaught fetches, like Scalding Tarn or Flooded Strand , are the gold standard here, though they do tend to be very expensive. Slow fetches, like Bad River or Mountain Valley , are similar, cheaper, and still powerful. Faithless Looting is a great card in EDH, as it is in many ways a red Preordain . If you want to go the combo-route, Gitaxian Probe is great for checking for enemy counter-magic.
Dig Through Time is similar to the above suggested Treasure Cruise . I suggest running one or the other, but not both; delve tends to get in its own way, if there're too many delve cards in the deck. Since Dig Through Time sees more cards, if you want to use the Curiosity loop, I think it's better; if you have ethical qualms about infinite loops in EDH, Treasure Cruise is better in that it provides more card-advantage.
A similar source of card-advantage is Mystic Remora . Landing this one turn one can slow down your opponents if you have a slower hand, and in more inexperienced metas it can easily be an Ancestral Recall or two. It's similar effect to your Rhystic Study with a higher cost on the trigger means you can get some real value fast.
Your artifact-ramp can use some work. Chrome Mox is great if you draw your deck and need to cast a Timetwister effect, though it is $40-ish. Talisman of Creativity is extremely powerful, as is Prismatic Lens , Fellwar Stone , the soon-to-release Arcane Signet , Thought Vessel and Coldsteel Heart . In general, two-mana ramp is a lot better than three-mana ramp in EDH, as once you hit three mana you should be trying to do more powerful things. Mana Vault is good for casting Thousand-Year Storm early.
One card I think would be fun to try is Goblin Welder . He lets you reanimate your Inkwell Leviathan for cheap, if you discard it early in the game. Wurmcoil Engine is a great card to sac-recur, as its splitting in two means you end up, over time, netting more and more artifacts to the field. However, this synergy is very slow if you can't untap your Goblin Welder . One thing to consider that is often forgotten with Goblin Welder is that you can use it to target your opponents' stuff. If you're facing down a Blightsteel Colossus and it's controller has an artifact in the 'yard, you can make your opponent sac the Blightsteel and return the (presumably less powerful) artifact.
Depending on your meta, you may want to consider Pyroclasm , Anger of the Gods , Kozilek's Return , etc. These are cheaper than your Mizzium Mortars , and if you're careful you can avoid killing your own dudes.
Presumably, after the first game or two your opponents will start trying to kill your general on sight. Increased cheap interaction will protect him and maintain any advantage you have; Swan Song , Turn Aside , Dispel , Spell Snare , Spell Pierce or even Mental Misstep (in some metas) are all worth considering.
Right. That's all I got. Good luck!
3 months ago
I see a few areas for improvement:
So one of the main reasons to play green is the mana dorks. You should at least be running Birds of Paradise , Llanowar Elves and Elves of Deep Shadow , and you should probably be running a few more as well. Fyndhorn Elves , Elvish Mystic , Priest of Titania , Arbor Elf , Bloom Tender , Boreal Druid and Deathrite Shaman are also worth considering.
Card-draw is a big part of EDH. Distant Melody is good in any tribal deck, and depending on your typical board presence Slate of Ancestry may be worth considering, too. Fact or Fiction , Painful Truths , Treasure Cruise , Dig Through Time , Night's Whisper , Windfall , Harmonize and Concentrate are also good draw-spells. Sylvan Library and Phyrexian Arena are good pieces of permanent-based card-advantage. Mystic Remora is excellent, if transient, and at more inexperienced tables it can easily be an Ancestral Recall .
Your mana-base is worth rethinking, too. Overgrown Tomb , Breeding Pool and Watery Grave are all relatively affordable these days (because of the reprint), and City of Brass and Mana Confluence are worth running in a three-color deck, too. Depending on your budget, you may want to run fetch-lands like Polluted Delta or Prismatic Vista ; lower-budget options include Bad River , Flood Plain or the other slow-fetches. Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse , too. Llanowar Wastes , Yavimaya Coast , Underground River , Waterlogged Grove , Nurturing Peatland , Hinterland Harbor , Woodland Cemetery and Drowned Catacomb are more good dual-lands.
If you do end up running any sort of fetches, you'll have a bunch of shuffle-effects. This means Brainstorm becomes a powerful spell, as you can shuffle away bad cards while digging for the ones you want. Ponder , Preordain and Impulse are great as well.
Tutors are great -- then you don't even need to bother digging, as you can just go get what you want. Demonic Tutor and Vampiric Tutor are the gold standard, but as a pair they'll likely run you around $100. Diabolic Tutor , Lim-Dul's Vault and Dark Petition are all far more accessible. Mystical Tutor and Worldly Tutor are also good, though I don't think they'd be as good as the non-restricted tutors.
You also need to consider removal. Toxic Deluge , Pernicious Deed , Damnation , Decree of Pain and Cyclonic Rift are all great boardwipes. Nature's Claim , Krosan Grip , Casualties of War , Assassin's Trophy , Abrupt Decay , Windgrace's Judgment and Ashes to Ashes are good forms of spot-removal.
Finally, you might want to consider a reanimation package. Entomb or Buried Alive paired with Animate Dead , Reanimate , Dance of the Dead or Necromancy is a great way to get fatties out fast. Reanimating Grave Titan , Massacre Wurm or Inkwell Leviathan can swing the game in your favor real fast.
4 months ago
With Islandwalk potentially being the difference between a win and loss, perhaps Quicksilver Fountain would be of use here.
Chart a Course seems to fit thematically, but you'd need some more creatures to make it viable. Jace's Ingenuity is just bad. It makes Harmonize look like a dream. As rule of thumb, draw card isn't good if it works out to much more than 1CMC/card drawn. And it doesn't create card advantage unless you're drawing at least 2 cards - that is - can-tripping is deck-thinning. I don't think you want to deck thin here, because those slots are better used for lands you need to cast your big creatures. Divination is probably the more acceptable option, though I'm not particularly found of it.
Another option: use Master Transmuter to drop an Inkwell Leviathan . This would require more artifacts, but that could be the way to go - things like Springleaf Drum and Paradise Mantle with Ornithopters can be a very fast mana ramp. You'd also get Stoic Rebuttal , Darksteel Citadel , and creatures like Etherium Sculptor . If you do go with artifacts, Buried Ruin would be smart.
6 months ago
Hi Jayd0nlink thx for the suggestions. I think I am going to try to get lands under 1 dollar. I think I am going to add Seat of the Synod . Cascading Cataracts is a nice choice I am going to add. Since this deck is trying to get other peoples cards, I need the opponent to have cards I want. I want to take out Oloro, Ageless Ascetic , also Colossus of Akros . I know Blightsteel Colossus is an amazing add, but its not really a necessary card. Wurmcoil Engine is also usually a automatic add in most EDH decks but, ehhh, I think its going in my Daretti deck. Coastal Breach technically is not necessary. I would rather use target removal, or bounce.
Cards going in------------------------------------------------------------------------
Cards going out----------------------------------------------------------------------- - Blightsteel Colossus - Oloro, Ageless Ascetic - Colossus of Akros - Wurmcoil Engine - Coastal Breach - Inkwell Leviathan - Scoured Barrens - Persuasion
THX for all the suggestions. IF you could tell me how its looking, that would be great. Again, just in case, this deck utilizes other peoples cards, and hands,bouncing stuff they already casted. Letting them draw cards for our use. Helm of the Host can do wonky stuff with our commander, letting us control other peoples hands, more than one.
7 months ago
I agree with Catpocolypse. I think it's very important for the creature that you're polymorphing for is something with hexproof/shroud (so it doesn't just get removed after all that set up), Inkwell Leviathan fits well with stormtide, but stormtide is vulnerable to removal. I could recommend more but I'm not sure what your budget is because I also think that you could use better legendary creatures, like Thalia, Heretic Cathar , Baral, Chief of Compliance , Lavinia, Azorius Renegade , Kira, Great Glass-Spinner , Jace, Vryn's Prodigy Flip or Geist of Saint Traft are a great choice and there's plenty more good choices I can't think of. Keep working on it and The Gatherer is your best friend :)
7 months ago
8 months ago
Nitenerd This list is based on cards I had laying around. My current play is to give away cheap artifacts and tokens, as far as I know, as long a token enters my board first it is considered something I "own". I am also toying with the idea of Inkwell Leviathan being a wincon, by giving away one of my islands. I would be interested in other card with islandwalk, mountainwalk, or plainswalk maybe something that could also be used in one of the primary slots of ramp, removal or draw. I also like the alt win of Hellkite Tyrant .
I intend on picking up a copy of role reversal when WAR comes out. It is perfect for the commander and I like the flavor. I ran Varchild and Rite of the Raging Storm because to me they are in the spirit of the deck. I wouldn't mind cards like roil elemental that take their best things. Where I will take there best creature and give them a 1/1 token. Like a broken "fair trade"
My overall interest in the deck is to grow my political game. My Lathiss, Elenda and Sidisi decks all win consistently enough; This deck is more of a sit down and play for the sake of playing.
Any suggestions that help the deck preform consistently would be appreciated, my biggest concern is having enough mana to cast something and then having one of each color to hand it off.
Inkwell Leviathan occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%