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When Shrieking Drake enters the battlefield, return a creature you control to its owner's hand.
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Shrieking Drake Discussion
1 day ago
Vela the Night-Clad is good for the turn you're able to play it. Since the board will try to build up against each other she gives evasion which can be helpful (there is always someone who easily gets intimidated) and the life loss trigger seems little and honestly wasn't relevant yet. But in theory he triggers with ninjutsu, mass removal and in late game you can use Shrieking Drake bouncing itself equal to your blue mana sources.
I already changed my list after your suggestions. Thanks for that.
2 days ago
@lamocomp1 I appreciate your enthusiasm for the deck already.
First of all: Sleep is a new addition to the deck, so I don't have any experience with the card. Someone in my playgroup played it last week and I totaly forgot about the powerful effect of this card in multiplayer. ATM I swapped it for Equilibrium, which is a far more lategame-card. Sleep fits more into the tempo playstyle of the deck. I like the functions of letting you go through for 1-2 combats at one single player and protecting you from the strongest boardstate (which also opens the doors for other players, who are interessted in killing the specific opponent). But that's just in theory.
The thing with Prickly Boggart or even Vampire Cutthroat, which are obviously worse evasive creatures, is Notorious Throng. I just wanted to be sure, that I can get the Prowl-cost active any time. But after a few games, I already came to the point, where these guys stayed back, because they weren't evasive anymore. Also Notorious Throng is most of the time bad at generating tokens, because the aggressive amount of damage, the deck wants to provide, is lifeloss from our commander. It functioned more like a bad Time Warp. Maybe I'll try alternative cards for the Throng, so I can fix my evasive guys, because I won't need rogues anymore.
I'm honestly not a big fan of all the cmc2 dorks. Yes, they have the better utility effects and synergize better with the Ninjutsu - no doubt. But I want to swarm my board with little evasive guys much more than this "enter the battlefield-shenanigans". So the difference between cmc1 and cmc2 is a lot for the deck, because for 2 mana I am more likely to cast 2 creatures. The bigger the evasive board, the bigger is the blowout with triggers, like under a Arcane adaption or similar. Also Opposition and definitely Inkfathom Witch benefit.
I totaly agree with you on Looter il-Kor. It's gonna be changed into a Nightveil Sprite after the release of Guilds of Ravnica. I also think about playing the new split cards due to it's high total converted mana cost. The owl-plan is very innovative and funny with Yuriko. Though I'm unsure if I really want to cut other creatures. The deck isn't very interactive and has problems to disrupt high value lategame-cards or combos, most commander decks are try to reach out for. So my thought was to put pressure on the opponents as high and early as possible. So the amount of evasive 1-drops effectively secure me a turn 2 attacking unblocked Yuriko. More 2 drops would slow down the game-plan while making the deck more versatile. I'm not already interessted into that right now, while my first attempt worked out very juicy so far.
The only 2 drop I'm repine with since building the deck is indeed Tetsuko Umezawa, Fugitive, because of making Yuriko and itself unblockable. I didn't miss the effect that much in the games so far. Cavern Harpy (which is very good in my opinion) and the other guys like Shrieking Drake are fullfilling a similar use. You can't cast them early, that's the drawback, but later you reactivate Yuriko (or other Ninjas) with them, while beeing evasive themselves. But maybe I'll trade Faerie Impostor with Tetsuko (because it's the worst one of these, because it doesn't combo as good with Vela the Night-Clad or in the past with Equilibrium, which remains on the "Maybeboard"].
I watched your list and also liked your ideas. I think yours is more a control-heavy build with the ramp and sweepers. Dowsing Dagger Flip on the other hand sounds very fun to me, because it is a sustained and effective ramp (and also so much flavor...). I'd keep this one in mind - maybe I can find space for this one.
2 weeks ago
Shrieking Drake can be cast over and over again to get those slumber counters off fast.
Whelming Wave should clear the board of everything but your boss.
1 month ago
Oh, the Shrieking Drake line that isn't infinite, I meant a win-con line, not a near-kill a player line.
1 month ago
This is a very land-light deck and Burgeoning will mostly only drop one or two lands maximum for a card. It also doesn't put counters on Animar, can't be tutored for, and is a bad draw at any time except turn one to drop a turn two Animar. Carpet of Flowers more consistently ramps this deck into a turn two Animar and still doesn't deserve a spot because just getting a turn two animar by spending a mana isn't enough, it normally has to either be free like Lotus Petal, Chrome Mox or the similar effects or be a creature like Birds of Paradise.
Venser, Shaper Savant is not useful in the same way Man-o'-War is, being that both can bounce themselves, but Man o' War can do it for half the mana, putting twice the +1/+1 counters that Venser will on Animar. This is a huge difference when you need a number of counters to cast a game-winning spell by turn 4 or trying to win right there.
Against Red Removal, Blasphemous Act type effects are unaffected by Lightning Greaves/Swiftfoot Boots, so I assume this isn't your problem. Against Lightning Bolt effects stuff like Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, Pact of Negation, and Mental Misstep can counter as well as just putting a few counters on Animar, Soul of Elements. Against Chaos Warp, we still have Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation, though you could run some cards like Swan Song and Dispel can be flex slots. They also happen to slow your opponents down if they try to combo out.
Against Blue Removal, which I assume is your problem, Chain of Vapor, Into the Roil, Rapid Hybridization and Cyclonic Rift can still be blocked with Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation, but also can be blocked by some of the flex slots I talked about prior.
Green removal is pretty much just Beast Within and Song of the Dryads and is generally rare, but if it is really hurting your, Spellskite, Sylvan Safekeeper, Glen Elendra Archmage, Force of Will, and Pact of Negation can stop them all, and Caustic Caterpillar, Brutalizer Exarch, Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger can deal with Song of the Dryads type effects.
Now while I respect your opinion in your meta on the use and capability of Emrakul, the Promised End, in this deck it commonly reduces it's cost by 1-3 mana, and can be reduced by 4-7 on a mid-sized Animar, Soul of Elements like you said, so 5-10 mana on normal by turns 5-6, or mid game. Even saying it costs is pushing it and if that is the case, you should run it if your meta is overrun with decks that are ruined by it. However due to the top tiered decks normally running a high number of instants that can be used to disable their own ability, think Chain of Vapor, they could commonly stop you from ruining themselves too bad in response to the ability before their turn. Rarely can it do more than a Word of Command because of stuff like that. Even if it just killed target player, like you said about swinging in with a swoll Animar, it doesn't win you the game to kill one player.
Again, that is only the reason that it isn't good enough for JMCraig to toss it in with the goal of this for cEDH decks, but if it works in your playgroup, do it! I have only the best wishes for you and your Animar deck!
You want a backup-backup plan I think was that second-to-last line? I don't understand why you think that is nessecary, but I will go over the plan:
Main Plan : Animar + Statue + Outlet = Win
Backup Plan : Kiki-jiki + Untapper = Win
We have a backup plan, why do you assume we need another?
You seemed to argue for Tishana over Big Kozi, but Kozilek, Butcher of Truth does have other use in the deck, and I would argue is better with a pumped Animar than Tishana. It can be free if you need a wincon and have Ancestral Statued Animar, Soul of Elements to infinity and beyond and just need to win, but don't have much more mana, Kozi is free, also with Survival of the Fittest you can fetch him and discard him to reshuffle your yard back in if you couldn't otherwise get back a card. Due to the discard being the cost, you could then fetch out a card that was in your graveyard when you fetched, making a really cool Primal Command effect for and a Survival of the Fittest.
Arguing Tishana can be fetched with Fierce Empath is fair, no arguement here, and it is even a decent option, but Imperial Recruiter has a ton of much better options, like Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker to copy the recruiter fetching Deceiver Exarch and winning the game. I can't think of a game I have ever played with Animar in which I wished I had a tishana to fetch with Imperial Recruiter. But yes, it isn't technically wrong.
The last thing I want to cover was one of your first points, about the lack of outlets to win with Ancestral Statue, with Purphoros, God of the Forge and Walking Ballista being the outlets of choice, if you have found problems tutoring tehm out, try also running Reckless Fireweaver. It doesn't combo with Man-o'-War or Shrieking Drake, but is still very useful.
2 months ago
I was very close to picking another Mulldrifter, but there are a number of things that would make me possibly not choose it. Mulldrifter's biggest draw is its Evoke cost that turns it into a Divination that Animar can make even cheaper. If we are just talking about a 5 CMC creature that draws two cards like Cloudblazer then I may hesitate, particularly if it requires two colored mana like Cloudblazer does. At 4 CMC I would be more inclined to included it, but once again I would cringe a little if it required two colored mana (which it probably would at that cost). The double colored mana can be a pain to juggle if you are trying to combo out early. However, if the card said something like "When ~ enters the battlefield, you may return another creature you control to its owner's hand. If you do, draw two cards." I would definitely be looking at putting it in the deck, even if it did have a 5 CMC and required two colored mana.
I ended up choosing the Bond Beetle for a couple of reasons. Bond Beetle is extremely economical for Animar, basically counting as two creatures for 1 mana in just one card. While the Beetle is lacking in terms of utility, having it in your opening hand is like starting with an extra card as far as Animar is concerned. The ability to go from 0 counters to 2 counters for just 1 mana is fantastic, because that lets you go straight to only having to pay 1 mana for one of your tutor creatures and leaves you with mana left for whatever you tutor for. Cast Spellshaper and you'll still have a mana for Worldly Tutor. Cast Imperial Recruiter and that one mana you have left is enough to let you go off with the Recruiter + Phyrexian Metamorph + Shrieking Drake combo. Cast Trinket Mage and you will be able to fetch and cast Skullclamp. And all of that is assuming that you missed your land drop for the turn. If you didn't miss a land drop you would also be able to attach the clamp to the Beetle to draw two cards right away.
Bond Beetle can also set Animar up to be able to win on turn 3, which I think is a really important benchmark for Animar given how fast other decks in the format are. Turn 2 Animar + a Mox/Lotus Petal into Bond Beetle will set you up with all the mana and counters you should need to potentially go off the following turn.
So yeah, Bond Beetle is lacking in overall utility and Animar is always hungry for new cantrip creatures, but I would really like at least one more functional reprint of Bond Beetle for the deck to up its chances of faster combo kills.
2 months ago
Biggest issue I see here is a lack of focus and not enough creatures for a creatures only matter deck.
Animar, Soul of Elements wants two main things: Cast creatures and get +1/+1 counters to cast larger creatures. Everything in the deck should be focused on those two goals.
Setting up the deck to achieve this purpose will make it efficient and powerful. All cards should therefore do one of the following:
- Ramp up to Animar.
- Protect Animar.
- Place counters on Animar.
- Cast game ending creatures for cheap or free.
- Draw cards to allow us to do 1 through 4.
Priority should be given to cards that does something now > does something before your next turn > does something on your next turn > does something eventually.
Because Animar offers a discount based on creatures played, the deck shouldn't be filled with only high cmc game enders, but creatures from low to high cmc, preferably with as little colored mana symbols as possible, to give the deck a natural progression to casting free or cheap high cmc game ending creatures.
Let's split the deck into 3 parts. Pre-Animar setup, Post-Animar setup, Finale.
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- Exotic Orchard is pretty good and cheap and can usually offer every color in multiplayer, especially if an opponent has a Command Tower out or even a Vivid Grove without even needing charge counters. - Kazoo lands such as Simic Growth Chamber, Izzet Boilerworks, and Gruul Turf are good in casual EDH where there is lack of land destruction and they artifically increase your deck ammount by posing as two lands in one. Though overall you do not want too many tap lands as you'll constantly be a entire turn behind.
- Zhur-Taa Druid creature ramp & burn. $
- Bloom Tender creature ramp. !$!
- Coiling Oracle ramp or card draw. $
- Cyclonic Rift removal or 1-sided board wipe. $$$$
- Explore ramp and card Draw. $
- Sakura-Tribe Elder creature ramp and color fix. $$
- Sylvan Caryatid creature ramp and color fix. $$
- Beastcaller Savant creature ramp and color fix. $$
- Kiora's Follower creature ramp or vigilance on a stick. $
- Rattleclaw Mystic creature ramp and color fix. $
- Walking Atlas potentially free creature ramp. $
- Simic Charm so versatile. $
- Lightning Greaves Protection and quick haste for a large creature. $$
- Spellskite For those , & removals. $$$
- Ring of Kalonia Ramp every turn and makes Animar a lot more threatening. $
- Sage of Fables Emergency card draw. $$
- Pestermite Vigilance, chump blocker vs flying or stopping a giant creature. $
- Guided Passage One of the best card draw and pick your poison spells ever. $$
- Pir, Imaginative Rascal A creature hardened scales and specific tutor. $$
- Cloudstone Curio An auto include if you can afford it. $$$$
- Temur Ascendancy Makes all your casted creatures threatening and some card draw. $
- Phyrexian Metamorph Costs 2 life and can do so much for you. $$$
- Solemn Simulacrum Free ramp, chump blocker and card draw. $$
- Faerie Artisans It doesn't look like much, this is card can get crazy. $$
- Toothy, Imaginary Friend A growing monstrocity that explodes into cards. $$
- Silent Arbiter Protection against swarm decks. $$
- Xenagos, God of Revels Game ender. $$
- Vesuvan Shapeshifter On your upkeep, you may pay to clone the biggest and baddest mofo on the field. $
- Deepglow Skate Potential huge ramp for just . $$$
- Progenitor Mimic Very dangerous to copy one of the heavy hitters in this deck. $$
- Consecrated Sphinx All the card draw. $$$
- Deadwood Treefolk Repeatable creature recusion. $
- Steel Hellkite Situational, but very deadily against token decks. $
- Great Oak Guardian Great, quick surprise block when tapped out. $
- Pathbreaker Ibex Quick, game ender. $$
- Thunderfoot Baloth Setup for getting past defenses. $$
- Scourge of the Throne Depending on the situation, can be deadly. !$!
2 months ago
Ok, big update. 6 cards in, 6 out.