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Plunge into Darkness
Choose one - Sacrifice any number of creatures, then you gain 3 life for each sacrificed creature; or pay X life, then look at the top X cards of your library, put one of those cards into your hand, and remove the rest from the game.
Entwine (Black) (Choose both if you pay the entwine cost.)
Plunge into Darkness Discussion
13 hours ago
Hey, you're welcome.
If you're willing to drop some funds for a single card then consider Food Chain ? It's a one card infinite Kobold token combo with Prossh, by repeatably exiling Prossh for mana and then casting him from the Command Zone. Cards such as Squee, the Immortal and Eternal Scourge can be cast from exile allowing you to exile them with Chain to make mana, then cast them again and keep doing this for infinite mana.
The infinite tokens combo is the piece you want for a win condition with several cards here. Zulaport Cutthroat and Blood Artist make all your opponents lose all life because Prossh is a sac outlet. Purphoros, God of the Forge , Impact Tremors , Goblin Bombardment make all your opponents die from damage. Anger (only if you have easy ways to get it into your graveyard), Ogre Battledriver , Rhythm of the Wild are good to give all tokens and Prossh haste. Another way to give everything haste and a pump for a turn one kill is Goblin Bushwhacker . Smothering Abomination lets you draw a lot of cards from sacing tokens. Skullclamp is also excellent as draw with tokens.
If adding Chain then you'll need ways to find it. Necropotence , Diabolic Intent , Demonic Tutor , Dimir Machinations (transmute), Gamble are ways to tutor or draw it that won't break the bank. Plunge into Darkness , Demonic Consultation , Tainted Pact (with only one basic land of each type) are other instant ways to find Chain, but you exile all other cards until you find it. Sensei's Divining Top and Sylvan Library help to find/draw Chain or other cards as well as to help setup these spells that let you find one card exile the rest.
5 days ago
Gotcha. I would just go with sac outlets, then. Phyrexian Tower just went from like $60 to $10 because of the reprint. Infernal Offering , Recurring Nightmare , Rescue from the Underworld , Victimize , and Whisper, Blood Liturgist all offer recursion. Altar's Reap , Fling , Costly Plunder , Culling the Weak , Plunge into Darkness , Vicious Offering , Devour Flesh , Merciless Resolve , Sacrifice , Collateral Damage , Burnt Offering , Carrion , Fiery Conclusion , Spontaneous Combustion , and Dredge are all better instant-speed ways to leverage Xantcha. Or you could just Inferno or Starstorm to kill the board.
4 weeks ago
Great Oona deck list crstisalie!
Have you also considered running Plunge into Darkness as a fairly risky pull to grab one of your combo piece?
1 month ago
Ever thought 'bout swapping Arcane Denial for Delay? AD gives your opponent one extra card beside which is bad, especially against stax, so it's around a 8-10% chance that the person draws more hate ore worse tax elements. In my Experience Delay does nearly the same but with far less risk. I also would recommend Winds of Rebuke as a good spot removal which provides a nice utility against top deck tutors Ever thought about Plunge into Darkness or Tainted Pact over Thirst for Knowledge, pseudo tutor for more consistency if a combo piece is missing and to tighten your amc because of ad naus, same goes for Dismember, Fatal Push would be a little less flexible, but with Fetchies it works fine.
1 month ago
Question : How effective Plunge into Darkness ?
I know that a good card, synergize with the deck. But in a few test using that card, its a very low precentage to exile our CFE creatures or a card we want to put in hand that time (maybe Extract, Foresight, etc ). Yes that card is a Dig Through Time in steroid, but We usually pay around 10-20 life with Plunge into Darkness, get only one card and end up exiling another valuable utility cards ( our lab maniac, our tutors, our counterspells, etc ) and we can't recur them from the exile zone.
The other forbidden tutors is superfine in the deck, im just not peace with plunge into darkness.
3 months ago
I've been playing Lilbrudder's PST version with Thrasios and Vial Smasher and I have to say that I have been enjoying it for the past 3 months now. I used to think that Thrasios Tymna is an automatic Flash Hulk build so I decided to get Vial Smasher and go sans white to play cards like Pyro, REB, Gamble, Wheel of Fortune, Manamorphose and Fire Covenant. I never liked the Flash Hulk piles and just like what you said in the previous comments, it has more moving parts and less redundancies. I like the idea that you play less or even no dead cards.
So after seeing your list, I believe that this is perfect for me. I could run Tymna now, no Flash Hulk lines, stick with PST and more ramp. I'm starting to replace my Lilbrudder list on paper to my own version of your deck list.
Some help questions:
Plunge into Darkness: I haven't really played this before and I just want to ask, what do you usually try to find using this card? Can you consider Intuition to be a less risky card given that you can only get one (1) card from Plunge too and you don't exile the two other cards from Intuition? You can grab Noxious, Regrowth and Paradox/Isochron/Dramatic.
Your thoughts on Into the Roil replacing a less powerful countermagic? Being sans red means we dont get access to By Force, Rolling Earthquake, Vandalblast and other removals. I mean, we can't counter everything right? Do you think an additional bounce effect is needed? It also serves as another draw spell when trying to goldfish.
Your thoughts on Unsubstantiate? Again another bounce card specifically for creatures and spells. This can be good with creature heavy decks and it can also retaliate against Abrupt Decays or any uncounterable spells like when Boseiju or Cavern is used.
Lastly, I super like it that you guys religiously respond to comments in this list. Super thanks!
3 months ago
Further options - Bitter Revelation, Dark Bargain, Dark Tutelage (kinda a worse Phyrexian Arena), Eye of Yawgmoth, Increasing Ambition, Karn, Scion of Urza, Moonlight Bargain, Plunge into Darkness, Ruin Raider, Rune-Scarred Demon, Tainted Pact (Ad Nauseum-ish)
5 months ago
Tasigur is fine, he's just not as big a body as Gurmag Angler. There's no specific reason against it, he's undoubted value, but given the nature of our graveyard there are frequently going to be things in it we don't need or want to stay there (so we can cast the Ruinator) and it gives the opponent a bit too much control, feel free to try it out, but I'm not certain of it's value.
The no group: Commandeer is definitely too much jank, the Corpse Connoisseur is a touch expensive and unnecessary even unearthing him, and I think you know why Mass Polymorph doesn't go in the deck. lol
The maybe group: Corpseweft is beautiful jank, worth a try, but it may be too jank. The deck is already running about as many creatures and as few lands as I could reasonably get it, and it's frequently not guaranteed to be able to cast the Ruinator turn 3 so I don't think going down lands, control, or creatures for it is a good idea. Crypt Incursion is too mana expensive as graveyard hate for the opponent, too indiscriminate for self graveyard hate, and really only relevant in a few matchups for life gain. However it might work out in the sideboard. Forbidden Alchemy really good, but I think it's too mana expensive, I'd rather run Opt, Nagging Thoughts or Plunge into Darkness... Which I might look into. All of these are viable for a more budget build of the deck for certain, along with Halimar Depths and Mortuary Mire.
The Yes group: Extirpate/Surgical Extraction are obvious includes that I totally missed maindeck and might fit in somehow, maybe going down the Fatal Push and the Nihil Spellbomb for a pair of either. Logic Knot if you're building this deck and you're smart, that card goes over Ulamog's Nullifier in the sideboard. I'm not smart, so I'm going to do some soul serching.
Plunge into Darkness occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.01%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%
BUG (Sultai): 0.07%