Destroy all nonland permanents your opponents control.
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|Ikoria: Lair of Behemoths (IKO)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Ruinous Ultimatum Discussion
2 days ago
I dont see any answers to heavy aggro, Sphere of Safety is to slow to reliably protect you.
I love the addition of Mirror Gallery though, that would be interesting.
I think you need to look at ways of protecting your shrines as the deck doesnt really seem to do anything else. Good luck with it, shrines can be so much fun.
4 days ago
Hey man took a look at the list vs. Shrine of Uro and I'd say the biggest threats are the hand hate cards, it can slow down the plan a bit but other than that there isnt much here that worries me. Shrines can be vulnerable to heavy and fast aggro but not much else from what I've played so far.
You dont have any creatures to threaten my life total with if I get a Sanctum of Stone Fangs to stick. You might say Banishing Light or Doom Foretold are your answers but Elspeth Conquers Death, my own Banishing Lights, Ruinous Ultimatum or Ugin, the Spirit Dragon deal with them very well.
Have you thought about going Mardu... () yourself? It opens up a lot of possibilities for damage in red but more importantly Ruinous Ultimatum which can cripple decks, shrines included.
Blast Zone could be another consideration for you as it is removal with a good amount of flexibility.
It's an ambitious deck in my opinion, creatureless ones always are, good luck and have fun with it.
1 week ago
I'd also think about the "Enchantress" creatures for card advantage: Argothian Enchantress, Eidolon of Blossoms, Enchantress's Presence, Mesa Enchantress, Satyr Enchanter, Verduran Enchantress, and Setessan Champion. They can really help you set up an unbeatable engine, and then your opponents need to focus on either dealing with your creatures OR your Shrines.
1 week ago
What is the plan for this deck? Are the shrines there as a just in case thing? It doesnt seem you have a consistent way of getting them out, especially since you are only running one Sanctum of All.
I would suggest cutting some creatures in favour of some scary and/or card draw effects as filtering your topdecks can really help shrines.
I would also cut Life Goes On, life gain is not great and there are better cards you fill those slots with to help with whatever gameplan you go with. Shatter the Sky, Time Wipe or Ruinous Ultimatum are all great picks to just reset the board and buy more time to get your shrines online.
If you have Teferi, Time Raveler he fits really well in shrines since he can allow you to cast your boardwipes at instant speed and slow down your opponents ability to interact with your board.
Cultivate would really help fix your mana if you are not running shocks, temples or triomes.
Sorry if my suggestions are way off of where you wanted to go with the deck, just my thoughts.
I am finding shrines a lot of fun to play though, definitely worth building. I am quite curious to see how many working variations people can come up with too. I hadn't thought about a creature based shrine deck but if you can make it work, more power to you.
Good luck and have fun with it.
3 weeks ago
Queen Marchesa is one of my favourite commanders of all time for a political build, so I do have some awesome new cards that I have added to my deck to suggest. Ruinous Ultimatum is a new excellent board wipe in Mardu, Savai Triome is a tapped Land that you can cycle and tutor for, Mythos of Snapdax, Bedevil, Chaos Warp, Despark, Generous Gift, Crush Contraband and Deadly Rollick are some pretty cool and unique removal. Arcane Signet, Smothering Tithe, Talisman of Hierarchy, Dockside Extortionist and Talisman of Conviction are ramp cards that has become a staple in almost any deck. For new political cards, I like to run Athreos the shroud veiled, Scheming Symmetry and Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor. If you have tokens in the deck, you need Teysa Karlov and Mentor of the Meek. Flawless Maneuver is some very effecient protection. If your focus in on humans, you can use General Kudro, Dire Tactics or Jirina Kudro. As for rule changes, Flash is now banned, a bummer if you play cEDH, Commanders now have death triggers, so if your commander is Child of Alara, you can put it back in the command zone and still destroy everything. The new companion mechanic has taken every format by storm, where you can have a 101st card that you have always access to if you meet a certain deck building requirement (Lutri, the Spellchaser is banned). This is what I struck me and what I remembered in the past magic years, welcome back to our glorious format :).
3 weeks ago
You use 10 pieces of ramp, You can easily play with 36 lands and 8 or 9 mana rocks.
Serra Ascendant draws to much attention, I would not like it if playing with an aikido deck.
Ruinous Ultimatum is tricky, althoug it's a excellent card, whipe your opponents out means you cannot use their powers againt them.
Precocious was complaining while ago about Weathered Wayfarer been too slow.
I consider Gisela, Blade of Goldnight too costy.
1 month ago
Good point Ruinous Ultimatum does nothing to a player with Avacyn, Angel of Hope. I feel than, the mass one sided instant speed bounce is the strongest effect in cmdr. Because the only thing that survives through that is Teferi's Protection
1 month ago
Honestly... even if the ultimatum was I’d still peg rift as better. If the ultimatum was instant speed but the cost didn’t change, rift would be better. If ultimatum got cost adjusted as mentioned above AND became instant speed... I honestly still believe rift would be better.
Cards like Heroic Intervention can give instant speed indestructible effects, but nothing (except the almighty Counterspell) saves against rift. Sure you can recast the bounced stuffed, but typically if you get hit by a rift, you’re dead. Plain and simple. There’s more outs against the effect of Ruinous Ultimatum than there are against Cyclonic Rift in any truly competitive deck, and that makes rift a more reliable card.
Genuinely... the ultimatum would have to exile, become instant speed, and have its cost adjusted for it to be within the realm of “better than rift”. As is... I’d put it closer to Austere Command. And even then I think austere beets the ultimatum just because it’s way easier to cast.