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Creature — Dinosaur
Enrage - Whenever Silverclad Ferocidons is dealt damage, each opponent sacrifices a permanent.
Silverclad Ferocidons Discussion
4 days ago
Mazirek, Kraul Death Priest could be good value here to double up Korvold’s counters and pump your team.
Inventors' Fair can grab you a combo piece and sacs itself to boot.
and Silverclad Ferocidons is a lot of mana but it plays very well with Mayhem Devil.
2 months ago
Having no experience with Pingers, I do think you could use some more draw. You may have gone this route, but there's a whole avenue you can open up to ping yourself for value. I see Silverclad Ferocidons , but maybe consider Nin, the Pain Artist or Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind for on-them draw. Izzet Staticaster would be at home here with upside vs tokens, as does Willbreaker or Cowardice . I would look for untaps too, a la Intruder Alarm or Freed from the Real , but I can't think of many in these colors. The ol' dramatic scepter wincon (I use it in my awful Shu Yun deck) is popular, and can be sniffed out early, so pack loads of control to ensure you get it through.
2 months ago
3 months ago
I have been playing Dinosaur Tribal ever since Ixalan came out and have a few things to suggest. The main problem still is that the white dinosaurs kind of suck in today's standard. I had splashed into Jund dinos way back in Guilds of Ravnica and find it much more consistent and competitive against the top tier decks of the meta. With the support that those colors got in M20, its safe to say that that is still going to be your best option. Now for individual reasons about cards.
Kinjalli's Caller : Though the mana reduction and the high health body is very attractive, the main focus for dinosaur decks is to push damage through. With this having 0 power, it does literally nothing on its own.
Imperial Ceratops : Even with Maruading Raptor being able to hit this as it comes down, lifegain generally isn't revelant in a ramp style deck. Granted, it does well against aggro, so I would use this in your sideboard if you keep with the white color.
I'm gonna put Verdant Sun's Avatar and Silverclad Ferocidons together here. These bad boys cost 7 mana. That alone is a huge thing to make happen. 4/5 times you will find these stuck in your hand and unable to be played.
Blood Sun : I understand that this meant to combo with Lotus Field however having a 3 mana enchantment that doesn't affect your board at all is really bad. I was recommend playing Ripjaw Raptor instead. With Marauding Raptor , it's essentially 3 mana and it gives you a creature that can continue to draw more.
Wilderness Reclamation : I see that you want to run Vivien, Champion of the Wilds in your deck and that's completely fine, however, you will probably find that you will rarely end up playing anything at instant speed, making the extra mana unusable. Also, if you draw this late, it ends up being a dead draw.
Raptor Hatchling : I love this card don't get me wrong. However, I think this is better save as a sideboard option against aggro, especially mono red.
Now a couple of cards that I would recommend would be Regisaur Alpha , Ripjaw Raptor , Savage Stomp , and Domri, Anarch of Bolas as they speed up your deck and add more power to the board, as well as giving you some removal options and enrage triggers. If you want cards to use against control, Carnage Tyrant still typically gets the job done.
5 months ago
First of all, thanks for making a primer on this commander! There are a lot of people starting to play this one since release, but not a lot of in depth content out yet. I have some suggestions based around my play experience with this deck:
Mirrorwing Dragon and Zada, Hedron Grinder : I feel Feather works best when you can go off and kill someone in one turn, usually with commander damage. These two creatures enable you to go wide while still benefiting from the instants and sorceries you are already playing in feather. Cards like Bandage go from draw one every turn to draw 1 card every turn for each creature you control, all for just 1 mana. If you are ever worried about decking yourself, just don't cast the draw card targeting these creatures. Pump spells can easily turn into 1 mana Overrun s. Usually the turn I drop this, as long as I have leftover mana to play other pump spells, I can win the game.
Dreadhorde Arcanist : This guy is a house. You are naturally running pump spells in your deck, so you won't have a problem casting spells out of your gy. Some cards you run in the deck, such as Path to Exile , Council's Judgment or Chaos Warp , won't recur with feather, so being able to cast them another time for free is huge.
Twinflame , Ajani's Presence and Launch the Fleet : works best with either of the two aforementioned creatures, but can also work with strive. Can win games pretty fast when you swing with even just a couple creatures. Ajani's presence has saved my board countless times from board wipes as well.
Samut's Sprint , Brute Strength , etc: Most of my games with feather end in drawing into Temur Battle Rage and casting on feather when she is power 11 or greater. This requires many small cmc, efficient pump spells to fill your draws in the early game.
Cards I would replace:
Veilstone Amulet and Scroll of the Masters : Veilstone amulet can be accomplished with other cards we play for less mana ( eg. Apostle's Blessing, shelter, etc. ). Spending 3 mana to drop a do-nothing artifact isn't where the deck wants to be. Scroll of Masters is cute but I think we can get better effects in just the instants and sorceries we run.
Sentinel Tower and Guttersnipe : I considered both of these cards when making the deck, but I found they played out too slow. I couldn't find a time when I would like to cast Sentinel Tower rather than spend mana casting a draw spell on feather. Guttersnipe felt the same way. He also tends to attract a lot of hate when I'm not ready to finish my opponents. The nice thing about feather is you can amass enough card advantage by the mid game where you can explode and possibly one-shot your opponent.
Akroan Conscriptor is a bit slow and can provide no value depending on the board state.
I don't know how I feel about Grapeshot . I guess you will be playing 3-5 spells each turn, but a reusable card to deal 5 damage to a target every turn seems pretty slow to me. You should be able to not care about an opponents creatures most of the time ( she has flying, can give protection with various spells in deck, etc ) so killing creatures isn't as valuable and doing 5 damage to an opponents face is pretty lackluster.
Silverclad Ferocidons : A card that is > 5 mana should win the game for you when you play it. This card doesn't do that. I would much rather play 5-6 of my cheap instants/sorceries then play this card in a turn.
There are probably other cards I could think of and recommend, but I'm still working on my own list and tweaking it as I play the deck. Thanks again for writing a primer on this commander! Enjoy!
5 months ago
TwinStags Here are the cards you want opinions: Oblation Stuffy Doll Silverclad Ferocidons Crack the Earth Misguided Rage ( Phalanx Leader Anax and Cymede tokens with Young Pyromancer Launch the Fleet Monastery Mentor Akroan Crusader Vanguard of Brimaz ) Goblinslide Tenth District Legionnaire Burning Prophet and I'll give you my opinions.
Oblation : This is a great card! For 2 and a White you exile a token and get TWO LANDS!! VALUE!! Until you run out of basic lands to fetch. Then you're getting rid of 1 creature threat at a cost of giving two lands to only ONE of your opponents. ChibiNature's explanation for getting rid of Oblation is higher up on this thread. But Oblation only does so much for 3 CMC. Compare to other spells that is in this deck, that is also 3 CMC, Oblation is a clear choice to cut. BUT, if you are going the TOKEN route for your EDH deck then this is good. Not great, only good.
Stuffy Doll Silverclad Ferocidons : These two are basically the same effect, hurt them and they hurt our opponent. So the question becomes 'How many 'Direct Damage' spells are we going to run? The answer: Not enough. These two cards do not justify the amount of direct damage spells we need to run to kill our opponents.
Crack the Earth Misguided Rage : These cards have no synergy with Feather, the Redeemed , there is no value because we can't replay these cards unless we do graveyard recursion which is a host of other cards that is NOT in Boros colors.
Phalanx Leader Anax and Cymede tokens with Young Pyromancer Launch the Fleet Monastery Mentor Akroan Crusader Vanguard of Brimaz ) Goblinslide : This is actually a good idea, make a bunch of tokens and just spew all over our opponents faces. This is probably the 2nd best way to play Feather, the Redeemed . It does need a lot of setup and luck in drawing your creatures and spells. I can see an aggro deck that snowballs very fast. You'll be enemy #1 very fast. But can you bounce back after a boardwipe? How many turns will it take for you to rebuild your army of tokens? What about the balance of number of creatures to number of pump spells? How are you going to protect your tokens from being wiped?
Tenth District Legionnaire Burning Prophet : Scrying is nice. Drawing is better. For example you cast a spell onto Tenth District Legionnaire and you scry and decide to keep that card on the top. What happens to the next spell you cast onto Tenth District Legionnaire . If it is a pump spell, then it's better to cast it onto Zada, Hedron Grinder and pump ALL your tokens instead of only Tenth District Legionnaire . The same argument goes for Burning Prophet as well. My opinion is that Burning Prophet is better than Tenth District Legionnaire
You are missing two other ways to play Feather, the Redeemed . Have you looked into Flicker playstyle using Cloudshift and Otherworldly Journey ? Have you seen Zealous Conscripts and Stonehorn Dignitary ? Imagine casting Cloudshift onto Stoneforge Mystic ! ProTip: Use Zealous Conscripts to grab an enemy creature, then cast Cloudshift onto the creature you stole... that creature is now yours until it dies, not until end of turn!
5 months ago
TwinStags You are correct in saying that Oblation is a really good card, I wouldn't fault anybody for keeping it in the deck. And it will most likely always be in the "maybe" section of the deck at the very least. It might float in and out of the list as more testing gets done going forward.
Stuffy Doll I do not like for a couple of reasons. One is he locks himself to a single opponent, which to me just makes himself a worse version of Guttersnipe since in EDH there is 4 players. And secondly is that we really dont run a whole lot of damage outlets outside of Aetherflux Reservoir . There is a few cards here and there, but hardly enough to warrant the inclusion of a support card for it. Silverclad Ferocidons is bad for a similar reason, in that we just dont have the damage pinging support for it, but also he is LUDICROUSLY expensive. At 7 mana we should honestly be looking to combo into a victory, not play with fun cards. Cards like Sun Titan work well at such a high mana cost because he is best friends with the most powerful card in our deck Sunforger , but outside of that you should be looking to close out the game once you get to the higher mana costs. Not play goodstuff.
In regards to pumping strategies. It just isn't good enough. Our deck already runs about .5-1 turns slower than the other cutthroat decks thanks to the lack of card support for Boros. And combat/pump strategies are even further behind that. Imagine it as giving the opponents a free Time Walk or Time Stretch every time you play. It really sets you off on the the wrong foot. Matches that I actually managed to pull off any pump combos in order to win were almost always due to luck. Like I'd either get the perfect stax piece on the board early, or they enemies invested too many resources to shutdown another player in order to handle me. But it just isn't consistent enough to warrant running. And as a side not since you asked. cards with "heroic" like Akroan Crusader do NOT combo with Zada, Hedron Grinder or Mirrorwing Dragon . You can only target 1 with the initial spell, so in the end, all heroic cards are anti synergy with some of our more powerful combo pieces.
Scrying is nice, but not really good enough. We really only care about card draw when it comes to getting card advantage. Any sort of scry effects we get are just tacked on to already good cards like Gods Willing . Any card that scrys for us I'd rather just replace with something that draws us a card.
Hope this helps :)
5 months ago
Silverclad Ferocidons occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%