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Cleansing Nova Discussion
3 weeks ago
Hey, well done for a first deck on such a low budget. I haven't seen this Commander before.
When you're just starting out building decks in Commander it can be helpful to have some basic deck structure guildlines to follow.
- 36-38 lands (Exotic Orchard, Path of Ancestry)
- 20-25 creatures (Soulherder, Brago, King Eternal)
- 10 ramp sources (Arcane Signet, Knight of the White Orchid)
- 10 draw sources (Brainstorm, Palace Jailer)
- 10 removal/board wipes/counterspells (Swords to Plowshares, Cleansing Nova, Counterspell)
This is just a basic structure to get things started. It doesn't cover everything and your final deck may have different numbers for each part of the structure such as you might have more creatures. Some cards can cover more than one area such as Palace Jailer who is creature removal and can be repeatable draw which is really helpful.
Ramp is something all Commander decks need since you don't want to only rely on lands/land drops to make mana. You have Sol Ring which is really good, but that's where the ramp ends here. Only Sol is not enough ramp.
I always explain to new Commander deck builders that you need to be able to sacrifice (cut) some of the fun cards to add ramp to your deck. Since doing this will help gameplay so that you can more easily cast your Commander and the other big fun cards you want to play. In the case here my advice is consider cutting at least 9 cards to add more budget ramp?
- Arcane Signet
- Knight of the White Orchid
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Fellwar Stone
- Azorius Signet
- Orzhov Signet
- Mind Stone
- Commander's Sphere
Some cards to consider cutting to add more ramp are creatures who don't do enough for their mana cost: Gods' Hall Guardian, Living Tempest, Dread Rider, Shepherd of Heroes, Kor Celebrant, Ronom Unicorn, Brinebarrow Intruder
Like ramp all decks also need draw that comes from single draw effects and more importantly repeatable draw sources. Currently your deck has three good single draw effects Baleful Strix, Champion of Wits, Cloudblazer and one repeatable draw source Jace, Wielder of Mysteries. There's a reanimation theme here that can get you more draw from these creatures which is good, but consider more draw?
- Palace Jailer
- Sea Gate Oracle
- Thorn of the Black Rose
- Arguel's Blood Fast Flip
- Notion Rain
Jailer and Rose can be repeatable draw sources with the Monarch Emblem. When you have the monarch then you draw a card at your end step. Only one player in the game at one time can be the monarch and it can change players. As long as you are monarch you get the repeatable draw at your end step which is a big advantage.
For an opponent to become the monarch they have to do combat damage with a creature to you or play a card/effect that makes them the monarch. When this happens you loose the monarch and that opponent becomes the monarch. You can get back the monarch though by doing combat damage with a creature to the opponent who is the monarch or playing a card/effect that makes you the monarch.
The area of your deck that you have a lot of is removal. I count 23 single effects of removal here. You can afford to cut some removal to improve other areas of your deck: Withercrown, Befuddle, Iron Verdict, Smite the Monstrous.
If you're interested I offer more advice in another comment. Including explaining how blink from single effects or repeatable such as Soulherder and Brago, King Eternal can be powerful here. Would you like me to continue with more advice?
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Lynde, Cheerful Tormentor is just weird; there's currently not a whole lot of options for grixis to sac enchantments to make the recursion & card draw happen with regularity, and a random Cleansing Nova or something could turn really nasty. Not sure about the color identity either, it feels limiting. For my own idea for a Curse commander I just made it mono-black with partner.
4 months ago
Here is a list of cards that caught my eye.
Elspeth, Sun's Champion creates blockers and wraths big creatures.
Garruk, Cursed Huntsman creates blockers and destroys a creature while drawing you a card.
Ashiok, Nightmare Muse creates a blocker and bounces a creature while disrupting a hand.
Removal: Elspeth Conquers Death is just a good removal piece that returns a creature/planeswalker on the third chapter.
5 months ago
Hey, looking at your list I have a bunch of opinions. I'mma drop those for later reference. This comment will be a mess, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna write a cohesive essay with a proper layout.
Vryn Wingmare : taxing yes, but also taxes like 70% of your spells which I just can't see being worth it. At that stage, maybe run Sphere of Resistance . At least that hurts opposing creature decks too.
I don't love cards like Ghostly Prison because even though it does stop a bunch of random damage and everything it still won't stop the Voltron coming your way if they want to. On top of that your Magus of the Tabernacle will be an issue with your high creature count. So I'd consider getting rid of Baird, Steward of Argive and friends.
You only have three boardwipes, you're better off running more of those than pillowfort effects in my opinion. Consider Cleansing Nova , Rout , Time Wipe , Divine Reckoning . I like the last two a lot for this deck. Also where's your Cyclonic Rift do you not have more copies?
I'm very double on Isperia, Supreme Judge as a card. It's only 4 mana here which might make it good enough, but you're relying on opponents doing something which is usually not where you want to be. Mangara, the Diplomat in contrast, at least has muliple triggered abilities which does get triggered a lot, although with your taxing probably still a bad include, especially for it's $ cost. In the same wake I think Fatespinner , even though annoying for sure, gives opponents more options than you would like.
Nitpick, but Brainstorm becomes considerably worse if you don't have a bunch of fetches or other shuffle effects. Same goes for Mox Opal and your low artifact count. Though that one might still be good enough, albeit a little inconsistent with the current artifact count.
For counterspells, consider Memory Lapse or maybe even Essence Scatter or False Summoning . Also get Swan Song back in, a 1 mana counterspell that doesn't have a pay x out is probably still worth it's spot. Maaaybe on a super tight 100, but it's not like you're at that stage right now. And get rid of Render Silent three mana isn't worth it for the added silence in my opinion. Just keep the cheapest counterspells so you yourself can be more efficient with your own mana.
For ramp: Your commander is 4 mana, and getting him out is really good for you. Your ramp, for this reason, should be cmc 2 and below if possible. On top of that, due to Augustin's cost reducing abilities, you prefer your ramp to generate colored mana. So imo get rid of Azorius Locket and Azorius Cluestone . Instead look towards Coldsteel Heart and Talisman of Progress , maybe even a Sapphire Medallion , Pearl Medallion , Wayfarer's Bauble , Knight of the White Orchid . Or maybe Mind Stone , Walking Atlas , Everflowing Chalice . Maybe don't fix colors but at least curve out augustin. Finally please at least play Commander's Sphere over the Cluestone .
Also, please for the sake of our group, play an additional wincon. Right now you have Expropriate , Approach of the Second Sun and Smothering Tithe + Stasis lock. I know control decks don't traditionally run too many wincons, but keeping a lock on the board long enough is difficult and we won't usually feel like sitting through you trying to contain us for that long. Also where's Dramatic Reversal to go with your Isochron Scepter ?
5 months ago
First of all, love the deck.
I have been building my own version and this has given me some different ways of looking at things, thanks.
Secondly, some thoughts or questions:
- Restoration Angel only targets non-Angels so it wouldn't target Wispweaver Angel .
- Austere Command might be a better choice than Cleansing Nova . More control over what is destroyed for only 1 mana.
- Maybe Fountain Watch or Monk Idealist .
- Didn't you have Helm of Obedience in your list?
5 months ago
Land Tax , Avacyn's Collar , Gallows at Willow Hill , Harmonious Archon , Herald of War , Repel the Abominable , Slayer's Plate , Thalia's Lieutenant , Thraben Doomsayer , Abzan Falconer , Abzan Battle Priest , Apostle of Purifying Light , Archetype of Courage , Avacynian Missionaries Flip, Avenging Huntbonder , Banisher Priest , Cathars' Crusade , Crusader of Odric , Elite Inquisitor , Elite Scaleguard , Fencing Ace , Fiend Hunter , Fiendslayer Paladin , Frontline Medic , Hedron-Field Purists , Intrepid Hero , Keeper of the Accord , Kwende, Pride of Femeref , Lavabrink Venturer , Luminarch Aspirant , Mentor of the Meek , Mikaeus, the Lunarch , Mirran Crusader , Odric, Lunarch Marshal , Odric, Master Tactician , Selfless Squire , Soldier of the Pantheon , Soul's Attendant , Victory's Envoy , Archangel of Thune , Cradle of Vitality , Felidar Retreat , Unbreakable Formation
What I'm suggesting is more of a focus on the +1/+1 counters and the slight life gain that can go along with it. Sit behind a wide army of little guys until you can slowly stack them up high. Any blink effect, like coudshift or eerie interlude can also work well, and bigger/better wraths, Austere Command , Cleansing Nova , End Hostilities , Mass Calcify , Planar Cleansing , Rout , Slash the Ranks ,
6 months ago
Cut: - Warped Landscape - Forsake the Worldly - Wilt - Rain of Revelation - Akroma's Vengeance - Cleansing Nova - Vastwood Surge - River's Rebuke - Font of Fertility - Hideous Visage - Garruk's Uprising
Add: - Wasteland Strangler - World Breaker - All Is Dust - Blisterpod - Decimator of the Provinces - Distended Mindbender - Elder Deep-Fiend - Eldrazi Displacer - Eldrazi Mimic - Eldrazi Obligator - Fathom Feeder - Oblivion Sower - Rapacious One - Thought Harvester - Sire of Stagnation - Tide Drifter - Vanquisher's Banner - Mystic Reflection - Pact of the Serpent - Blight Herder - Arcane Signet - Sol Ring - Thran Dynamo - Chromatic Lantern - Commander's Sphere - Fellwar Stone - Worn Powerstone - Coalition Relic - Hedron Archive - Path to Exile - Swords to Plowshares - Swan Song - Skyshroud Claim - Elemental Bond - Unified Will - Reflections of Littjara - Ugin, the Ineffable - Forsaken Monument - Pathrazer of Ulamog - Jodah, Archmage Eternal - Kozilek's Return - Crop Rotation - Chaos Warp - Painful Truths - Tempt with Discovery - Lightning Greaves - Court of Bounty - Cascading Cataracts
6 months ago
This is really great list! Please keep updating.
Some of cards I found missing:
Black Eliminate , Grasp of Darkness , Feed the Swarm - oh yes, black can now destroy enchantments! Blue Ravenform - oh yes, blue can now EXILE ceatures or artifacts! White Angelic Edict , Cleansing Nova , Ondu Inversion Flip, Doomskar Green Viridian Shaman , Thrashing Brontodon . Fight effects of Gargos, Vicious Watcher , Territorial Allosaurus , Primal Might , Ram Through Red Shatterskull Smashing Flip and what about enrage effects from Silverclad Ferocidons or damage from Needletooth Raptor or Burning Sun's Avatar ?