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Legendary Creature — Angel
Flying, first strike, lifelink
Other Angels you control get +1/+1 and have lifelink.
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Lyra Dawnbringer Discussion
1 week ago
Off the top of my head? Cards that come to mind... Liliana, the Last Hope , Damping Sphere , Lyra Dawnbringer . Those can all help swing bad match-ups. Collective Brutality is an especially good option in decks using Lingering Souls.
1 week ago
Hi again realsoupersand,
Had to fly out to Ottawa, ON in Canada for a bit, so back in action.
50% of the time, I win with my primary win-con, which is Buried Alive + Reanimate , generally between T1-4 depending on how much tutoring and mana ramps I have available. It's CMC4, which happens on T1 occassionally, T2/T3 more realistically.
Karmic Guide is a critical component of that combo, also, yes she is playable with Kaalia of the Vast . Also enables Razaketh, the Foulblooded from the graveyard, and provides for sac/tutor. It's usually never a dead draw, and at CMC5 is still playable from hand, on occasion if the game is going on, and the Protection: with Flying also has assisted occasionally. Other than her obvious CMC as just a recursion tool, she's generally been good, and a requirement for the primary win-con.
Angel of Despair is just a Vindicate for CMC7, its ridiculous and only 5/5 flying. However, it's what I ALWAYS Tainted Pact to when Show and Tell + Omniscience , unless they have Leyline of Anticipation it's "usually" good enough. I can tutor Anguished Unmaking , however, I have to give priority up with an Omniscience on the table, so it's far too late by then. Can also destroy other random threats if needed too. She's borderline for sure. Red Elemental Blast is too slow in this case.
Angelic Arbiter was answering the Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge but now it's always Kess, Dissident Mage . Also for Tooth and Nail type encounters (eg: Craterhoof Behemoth ) or any type of haste/recursion. All together stops a few. I usually just put 1 response to any situation, because I just tutor the exclusive solution needed.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope protects against MLD type situations, but she's not difficult to remove anyway, everyone's removal deals with her no problem. If she buys me an extra turn though, it's worth it. Can also put a player on a turn timer or make them act before prepared (no Force of Will for example), sometimes... Not the strongest for sure. Or like a The Gitrog Monster looping destroy maybe...
Balefire Dragon is again, just to solve specific issues or eliminate high value ground targets. Like the others, Tainted Pact to hand whenever, a situation calls for it. I tried to cut back on creature controls (ex: Damnation ) just because its not a creature world, but often creatures can be enablers.
Baneslayer Angel cut, served no purpose other than lifelink for the Hatred but the CMC5 was too much, and only removed a single opponent. Serra Ascendant T1 "usually" puts enough pressure on 1 player (usually )), who is now on a turn timer, spending life for tutoring becomes harder, and sometimes waste time removing it. Statistically found, I was usually nearly 1 turn earlier to win with Serra Ascendant , plus overcharges me for an early Necropotence or Razaketh, the Foulblooded win or Doom Whisperer win.
Phyrexian Arena is tough, high CMC, no return. It still the second highest played card in commander, and I don't know how else to draw? Mardu is a drawing nightmare. Have to think on it, how to deal with it but agreed, same issue is with Bloodgift Demon . I've had Skyline Despot recommended has a same turn impact (draw at EOT), but also, might be ramping oppponents draw too, especially if I have no way to reconnect on attack as Skyline Despot doesn't have trample.
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight has the added benefit of removing 1-damage win-cons like Impact Tremors , Blasting Station , Goblin Bombardment , Dragon Tempest (with 1 dragon), Etc... Also puts pressure on. Usually just for a specific application though. I think my interaction package is more similar to a Thoughtseize type application, where if I can't win early, I tutor what I need to address the specific threats, instead of using Instant spell to do them? If that makes sense. Gisela, the Broken Blade i've cut.
Hellkite Tyrant was specifically answering an almost consistent Breya, Etherium Shaper deck. It's been a while since C16 set now, so definitely seeing it less and less. Might help with Teferi, Temporal Archmage or Urza, Lord High Artificer on occasion. It wasn't enough on it's own though, it also needed a Linvala, Keeper of Silence to go with it. Prior to this, I had nothing to compete with Breya, Etherium Shaper , had no way to win.
Lyra Dawnbringer is on my cut list now, might become the Sire Of Insanity or something like that. Mother of Runes works good with Master of Cruelties , also can protect Kaalia of the Vast , makes guys like Balefire Dragon unblockable too, or protects a Razaketh, the Foulblooded and becomes Tutor mana, or blocks an early Infect attack. Slow yes, but has some utility. Also can protect my Kiki-Jiki, Mirror Breaker or Worldgorger Dragon causing me to win (instead of lose). It's borderline for sure, have to think about it. Aven Mindcensor feels good, looking for a way to include him as well as the Sire Of Insanity .
Steel Hellkite I tried for over a year, I would either, not be able to connect (no trample), or when I did, not enough mana to get the threat that I really needed to remove. I gave up on Steel Hellkite , also needs a Mother of Runes for support.
Ancient Tomb is back in, can't recall why I removed it. Think it screwed me one game with the colorless, but now that I've removed most of the colorless, it makes sense. Prismatic Vista isn't great, only 2 basics (can put in the snow's but for why), I like that it filters a land out (lower probability of drawing a land), but also destroys my mana-fixing as well, so agreed, unnecessary in this build, but feels weird.
I'm probably going to continue reducing CMC and reducing land counts as you've recommended, but needs some expensive 0-CMC rocks which I don't have, or some resource planning around alt. mana sources.
Overall goal is still to build for cEDH, understanding that consistency isn't going to push into more than a Tier-2.5/3 categorization, so I'll go over High Power again later lol.
Thinking about Interaction, I really don't want to go heavy into that with things like, Dismember or Lightning Bolt would rather let the opponents use their removal, and PRAY that I can sneak through a combo. If I combo T1 it has a fairly high success rate (other than a Pact of Negation which eliminated themselves) usually don't get stopped (Odd Force of Will or Swords to Plowshares here and there), T2 is still decently good, often others are still tutoring for a T3 win, but outside of T3 or beyond, usually I need to wait until someone tries to combo, and then is stopped, before I have a chance. I just go for it whenever I can though, increases winning % over trying to strategically go for it and being too late.
I think perhaps Red Elemental Blast or Pyroblast or both perhaps will be handy, Silence I wish it had Split Second (like Teferi's Protection ) because most combos don't have a "sorcery" speed interaction so doesn't stop. Can protect me on the turn I'm going for it like another Grand Abolisher but outside of that not highly useful. Will do some playtesting with it and see if it improves my completion % for combo and increases my combo win % because that's all that matters.
I decided not to go MLD, can Stax/MLD certainly is a strategy, but prefer just to ignore others, and just go for the win myself, win or lose. Plus I don't repopulate my hand nor ramp, so probably just slowing myself down instead of the opponents. Plus I don't have a Ravages of War so would require a financial commitment, would rather focus on finding a way to go for the win on T1-T3 more consistently.
I think if you found Kaalia of the Vast wasn't competitive using MLD before you dissolved that strategy, don't think it's the right course to go down either. Would rather try some out-of-the-box planning, and see if we can get her into a cEDH, which your comments are VERY helpful, and VERY appreciated. Think I've made some decent strides, still waiting for my card order to come in the mail so I can make some more cuts/adds to the deck!
I'll reply on high power shortly since it's lower priority, and hopefully you'll see my deck going in a stronger direction. Pushing that T1 probability up is key. I keep thinking there must be a T1 with Entomb and Goryo's Vengeance that I can do somehow? Razaketh, the Foulblooded would need another enabler, but there must be someone (like Griselbrand aka Griselbanned) to win with? Hmm.
2 weeks ago
This is my first time doing one of these things, so here's the commander:
Name: Jazrael, Ascended Angel
Mana Cost: 1 W W R R
Flying, lifelink, haste
Other Angel creatures you control have haste and are indestructible.
Whenever an Angel you control attacks, Jazrael, Ascended Angel deals 1 damage to any target.
I wanted to do something with Angels, and I noticed that there really is only 1 viable Angel tribal commander: Lyra Dawnbringer . She's very powerful, but I wanted to make something that had another color, to make use of the red angels such as Anya, Merciless Angel , Aurelia, the Warleader , and Gisela, Blade of Goldnight . Please leave some feedback and tell me if it's too overpowered or not! HERE'S THE LINK TO THE ACTUAL CARD: [Link Here]https://mtg.design/i/fawn03
2 weeks ago
Hey, interesting budget version of Atraxa.
Atraxa is your best source of life gain with her lifelink because the damage she does to a player is also Commander damage. She already has evasion (flying) meaning you're most likely going to be gaining life when she attacks. Gaining life while at the same time potentially killing your opponents. I would focus more on Atraxa and beefing her up which then in return makes cards that benefit from gaining life better. Counters are a fine way to beef up Atraxa because they also interact with her proliferate. Consider including more ways to get counters on Atraxa?
Cards within the budget to consider adding:
Ancient, Escalation and Advokist are repeatable sources of counters to put on Atraxa. Even though Escalation and Advokist put counters on an opponent's creature Atraxa is still going to be bigger and more powerful. These cards and Ancient can beef up Atraxa quickly. A big reason to add Climb is Winged Temple of Orazca . It's a win condition land with Atraxa.
Draw and Tutors
Ramp that can make any color of mana is very helpful when playing four colors with a budget manabase. Adding more of it lets you ramp into Atraxa faster.
Value from Gaining Life
Sunmare and Resplendent are repeatable sources to make big tokens when you gain life. Resplendent is very good with Lyra Dawnbringer . Well is good when you're consistently gaining life, turning that life gain into drawing cards.
- Llanowar Wastes
- Yavimaya Coast
- Sunken Hollow
- Prairie Stream
- Canopy Vista
- Woodland Cemetery
- Sunpetal Grove
- Opal Palace
- Ash Barrens
The Pain lands (Llanowar, Coast), Battle lands (Vista, Sunken, Stream) and Check lands (Woodland, Sunpetal) are upgrades for the Bounce lands. The Battle lands are good with Basic lands and Farseek to be able to search for a dual land. The Check lands are good with the Basic lands and the Battle lands. If you cast Atraxa with Opal then she ETB with a counter on her ready to proliferate.
Cards to consider cutting:
- Azorius Chancery
- Dimir Aqueduct
- Dromar's Cavern
- Golgari Rot Farm
- Orzhov Basilica
- Selesnya Sanctuary
- Simic Growth Chamber
- Thespian's Stage
- Myriad Landscape
- Ill-Gotten Inheritance
- Lawmage's Binding
- Spirit Loop
- Witching Well
- Ageless Entity
- Arvad the Cursed
- Basilica Bell-Haunt
- Bloodbond Vampire
- Elderwood Scion
- Vampire of the Dire Moon
- Horizon Chimera
- Evra, Halcyon Witness
- Elite Guardmage
- Scour All Possibilities
Good luck with your deck.
3 weeks ago
She's a anthem effect. You most likely won't even have to attack with her. You'll win with the 16+ life swing you should have by turn 5
4 weeks ago
Look, we all know that once Eldraine comes out, cards that used to be staples will be worth pennies. I'd like to pick up some rotating cards for Cube, so I'm proposing a win-win deal -- I'll buy your cards for slightly cheaper than they're worth now, but relative to their post-rotation prices you'll be turning a profit too.
Here's my biggest wants (although the prices are negotiable):
Lyra Dawnbringer - $3
History of Benalia - $.75
Carnage Tyrant - $4
Hostage Taker - $.5
I'm pretty sure this is a better deal than you'd get at your LGS, especially once rotation hits. I'm also willing to look through binders or current Standard decks to make up an offer worth your while. Let me know if you're interested! Cheers!
4 weeks ago
1 month ago
Lowering the average mana cost a bit, one of the angels is banned now.
Lyra Dawnbringer occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.36%
All decks: 0.02%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%