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|Ravnica Allegiance: Guild Kits (GK2)||Rare|
|Ultimate Masters (UMA)||Uncommon|
|Commander Anthology (CM1)||Rare|
|MTG: Commander (CMD)||Rare|
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Angel of Despair
Creature — Angel
When Angel of Despair enters the battlefield, destroy target permanent.
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Angel of Despair Discussion
1 week ago
@scotchtapedsleeve: Hmmm... Well, I just need to get my mind out of this for now. Backing this on topic like some rando's Uncle's Ratty Old Pickup (Actually, that sounds stupid in my book, considering my current status as an Uncle myself... :/), I still probably need some advice for several things; I have too many decks to cut until the legal 100 card max.
I'm still working on a Doomsday Package. Predict seems good (According to a Primer for this, it counts as 1+2, for a Three Point Avg alone. I'm using Laboratory Maniac , Pact of Negation (Unless Foil is good for you as well.), I don't want to use Lion's Eye Diamond , or Yawgmoth's Will , but I do need a mana source... So, we have three cards to use: Predict , Laboratory Maniac , & Pact of Negation / Foil . Any two ideas that would work here?
Here's some hate though: I'm trying to make a combo w/ Shimmer , but I'm wondering which of the Following is better: Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth , or Blanket of Night . The Former is a land, but I dunno if phasing Urborg is good or not. Blanket of Night isn't a land; & is odd casted as well. Thoughts?
Anyways, that's all I have for now; though I still have some things to finish up at this time. I'll see you all later.
1 week ago
@SynergyBuild: Well, after finding out there WILL be 36 Walkers in (WAR), There Will Be Blood. (The Movie Name... :P)
Anyways, I'm still asking about what to do about a certain Doomsday combo to use w/ your suggested Predict . I'm obviously focusing on Decking Out, & Winning w/ Laboratory Maniac . I'm also using Pact of Negation as protection. That's 3/5 pieces for the Domsday Device. What would you reccomend after this? Also NO Lion's Eye Diamond or Yawgmoth's Will , please.
I'm quite surprised enough Tibalt is returning, & Sorin, & Jiang Yanggu + Mowu... & some newbloods that look like badass walkers. To be honest, I want a New, INFINTELY SUPERIOR Tibalt for Superfriends, & I'd LOVE to know how it took SOOOO Long for Sorin Markov to break his stone casing; I mean, he's as strong as Ugin, who's on par w/ Nicol Bolas until recent events (Most Likely...). I, mean... he could just punch a hole in Nahiri's Stone Encasing, & try & follow her from here. Also, still NO Garruk Wildspeaker reappearence? I wonder if he's dead... /endrant
Is this too much? I'm already discombobulated by the idea of XXXVI Walkers; & not one, Garruk. He'd be a true hero for killing a, now, Agent of Bolas. Where the crapola is he? He hasn't been seen once since Core Set 2015... X/
1 week ago
Oath of Teferi , Venser, the Sojourner , Noxious Gearhulk , Ashen Rider , Angel of Despair , I am personally a big fan of Gonti, Lord of Luxury , Jace's Mindseeker is decent, Conjurer's Closet for sure... maybe Jace, Unraveler of Secrets for top manipulation.
3 weeks ago
Why do you suggest cutting Angel of Despair . Eldrazi Displacer and Twilight Prophet they follow the theme of the bounce flicker strategy and with re-occurable flicker engines they are too strong? Just wondering your thoughts on those. I like Dance of the Dead because its re-occurable with Sun Titan . Defintly looking to add pupeteer clique and Angel of Condemnation . I swapped in the chupacabra for the archon of justice.
3 weeks ago
Consider Ravenous Chupacabra Orzhov Locket Junk Diver Dead Man's Chest Big Game Hunter Settle the Wreckage Angel of Condemnation Fiend Hunter weird way to actually permanently exile creatures with this since it's two paragraphs and has 2 triggers on the stack. Flickerform Puppeteer Clique not sure but may be able to permanently steal with this if you exile it with a different card so it's not in when the exile trigger goes off. Didnt look up the interaction/rules. Triad of Fates slow but works perfect for what you want. Maybe Body Snatcher this one is kinda a stretch-ish.
1 month ago
Besides those suggestions, in general you need some removal and fetches. So Kodama's Reach , Realms Uncharted , Explosive Vegetation , Return to Dust , Beast Within , Angel of Despair , Wrecking Ball (just too hilarious not to run), Mystic Melting etc. I know Realms Uncharted is $5 but it's so perfect for four color decks it's scary.
1 month ago
I value low curves for a personal deck building as I come from a more competitive meta, so cards I find inefficient are cards like:
- Ethereal Absolution
- Debtors' Knell
- Obzedat's Aid
- Entreat the Dead
- Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts
- Pontiff of Blight
- Maw of the Obzedat
- Butcher of Malakir
- Angel of Despair
All these cards are a bit too clunky and don't provide much additional benefit with running in strategy with Teysa Karlov. More die trigger effects or spirit production are great, so I would recommend more cards like Archon of Justice or sac outlets and die triggers that provide card advantage like Grim Haruspex . Just my perspective imo, it is your deck :P
Hope that helps! ^^
1 month ago
Took a look over your deck, I like what your doing! However just as what hecubus333 mentioned, the CMC curve on the deck seems on the higher side. On a personal take, this was what my Teneb deck looked similar to before I tuned it for more of a competitive meta.
I also agree on your perspective on using unorthodox commanders for fun and tuning them competitively or as far as you can push them! For my thoughts on the matter, feel free to take it with a grain of salt!
These are good if you have multiple ways of abusing them or cheating them out but Ashen Rider and Angel of Despair cost way too much for these effects, I would consider only adding in one of these effects. Butcher of Malakir is another card that has way too high of a CMC when you are already running both Grave Pact and Dictate of Erebos , it should be considered being cut. Wurmcoil Engine while being fun, is a win more card and also can be swapped for something that gives you advantage. While I love redundancy effects, Falkenrath Noble is also too high for the effects that are similar to the Blood Artist as well as Zulaport Cutthroat . Burnished Hart while a fan favorite just only ramps you when going competitive you have access to faster mana rocks which does it much better. For the last thought I have on creatures like what hecubus333 as for 6 CMC is does not much and there are alternative ways to get better card draw.
In your artifact section, I am not a fan of 3 CMC rocks unless they provide an extra ability like say for example, Chromatic Lantern or Commander's Sphere . The former provides color fixing and the latter card draw that doesn't require you to tap to activate. With that being said, I would take out the Orzhov Cluestone , Darksteel Ingot , as well as Strionic Resonator . In replacement mana rocks like Mana Vault , Mana Crypt , Chrome Mox , Mox Diamond , Grim Monolith can be used. Or if going for more on the budget friendly route, Thought Vessel , Everflowing Chalice , Sensei's Divining Top , and Scroll Rack are other cards to consider.
Unburial Rites as well as Victimize are decent but Necromancy and Dance of the Dead provide cheaper cost as well as more efficiency, in addition they can target your opponents creatures in their grave as well. Sorin, Grim Nemesis is good in a casual format, but as said before 6 CMC for card draw is really rough. Albeit I do like that on the resolution you do get CA right away so that's a plus.
Now for cards I would consider adding, here is a list you can consider:
- Tymna the Weaver
- Dark Confidant / Mindblade Render
- Viscera Seer / Carrion Feeder
- Toxic Deluge
- Vampiric Tutor
- Demonic Tutor
- Diabolic Intent
- Enlightened Tutor
- Dark Ritual
- Culling the Weak
- Leonin Relic-Warder
- Smothering Tithe
Those are just some off the top of my head I can think of. For Orzhov colors you want to try obtain as much Card Advantage (CA) as possible as that is what we are weak on as well as mana acceleration.
Hope that gives you some insight! Feel free to ask for any advice, help, or perspective! Down to help tuning decks!
Angel of Despair occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%