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|Tempest Remastered (TPR)||Common|
|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Common|
|Promo Set (000)||Common|
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Creature — Sliver
All Sliver creatures get +1/+1.
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Muscle Sliver Discussion
1 month ago
As I mentioned on your thread, and as alias42 mentioned above, this deck does not meet the requirements for Standard, for which you currently have it labeled. Upon closer inspection, it does not seem to be Modern-legal either, though you can probably make it Modern-legal with a few changes. Specificall, Heart Sliver and Shifting Sliver are not Modern-legal. There might be others, but those are the two that immediately jump out at me.
Some general deckbuilding advise that will apply to all formats:
Lands that enter the battlefield tapped are bad, as they put you a turn behind. Transguild Promenade in particular is awful--not only do you not gain an extra land on the turn you play it, it additionally puts you behind a land.
Slivers are a hyper-aggressive tribe, and you want to maximize this. Focus on slivers with low mana costs and effects that stack, and run four copies of those, then run 2-3 copies of slivers whose abilities do not stack. For example, Predatory Sliver, Sinew Sliver, and Muscle Sliver (not Modern-legal) each give your creatures +1/+1, for the low cost of 2 mana. I'd probably run a full set of 12, (or 8 if you are moving to Modern).
Heart Sliver and Crystalline Sliver (neither are modern-legal) are fantastic, but multiple instances of Haste or Shroud do nothing for you. These are both cards you want to draw exactly one copy of, so running 3 of either should be fine. The one exception to this rule would be Galerider Sliver (which is a strict upgrade to the Winged Sliver you are currently running, and is Modern-legal). Because this costs one mana, you want to maximize your chances of having this in your opening hand, so you at least have something productive to do on turn 1. I'd run four copies.
Personally, I don't think any of the five-mana slivers are worth it in a 60-card constructed deck. You generally have better things to do with your time and mana.
Once you've figured out your format, I can try to give a bit more specific advice on what slivers to run.
2 months ago
I like the idea of the superfriends deck with tokens to protect them... however you may want to take a little advatage of the sliver synergy
2 months ago
My advice is to stick with a White and Green deck, you have the base slivers there like Sinew Sliver, Muscle Sliver, Brood Sliver, Horned Sliver, Bonescythe Sliver, Gemhide Sliver, Ward Sliver, Might Sliver, Manaweft Sliver, Essence Sliver and Sidewinder Sliver there, plus some more but these are the greatest ones for me. With them you can splash more colors to use Crystalline Sliver, Necrotic Sliver, Sliver Queen, Sliver Legion, Sliver Overlord and Sliver Hivelord, which are the ones with most value in my opinion outside Selesnya colors, although there are some good ones too in Blue and Red. Metallic Sliver is a good and cheap body but with no abilities of its own. Also get non-creatures spells that allow you to draw, tutor or fix your hand/deck for more creatures, as well as things to protect said creatures from boardwipes and individual kill spells. Check my sliver deck to get a more accurate idea of what I'm saying please Merciless Aliens
4 months ago
Blossoming Sands Tranquil Expanse are cheap good duel lands. Evolving Wilds is also good. Sinew Sliver and Muscle Sliver. Probably cut some of the more expensive slivers. This will make your deck very fast. Even going down a few lands for cards like Mutagenic Growth and Vines of Vastwood
9 months ago
To make your deck as competitive as possible, I recommend cutting every sliver with a converted mana cost greater than 2. Slivers aim to hit the ground running and pump out as many creatures as possible. To that end, every single draw must be playable immediately--you cannot afford to draw a five mana sliver with only two lands in play.
To that end, you should run 4 copies of Muscle Sliver, Predatory Sliver, and Sinew Sliver. Sidewinder Sliver is another great four-of, as Flanking stacks. With two in play, anything blocking your slivers will suffer -2/-2 before damage is dealt. Galerider Sliver is another solid one drop. Even thought multiple copies of flying are redundant with one another, you want to maximize your chance of dropping a Galerider on turn one.
Otherwise, there are a couple other 2 mana options worth considering. Aether Vial is another support card that's invaluable in sliver decks.
9 months ago
Glad to see your a fan of the wonderous hive also k_drake. I also happen to have a Sliver Overlord deck of my own, although mine is still a lot cheaper. Keep in mind however that LVL_666 has also chosen to bling out this deck nearly entirely, and thus the price you see on here is much more than what it would could actually be with a non-foil, non-masterpiece/expedition version of the decklist.
The first and most obvious things to avoid would be the original duals, (i.e Underground Sea, Volcanic Island, Tropical Island etc...), next you make do without Mana Crypt, Cavern of Souls, Wheel of Fortune, Yawgmoth's Will, and Mana Drain which should bring the deck down by a huge margin.
There's is such a vast amount of lands to choose from that could be suitable early on, including: the vivid cycle (Vivid Crag, Vivid Grove), the tri-lands (Seaside Citadel, Savage Lands, Jungle Shrine, and so on), then there's ones I use to use like Transguild Promenade, Exotic Orchard, Forbidden Orchard, Rupture Spire, Evolving Wilds / Terramorphic Expanse, Ash Barrens (highly recommend), and the panorama cycle (Bant Panorama, Jund Panorama, Esper Panorama, etc).
You can then make use out of the signets, Golgari Signet, Izzet Signet, etc) and perhaps use most of the combinations (prioritize the ones that have green). Anyways I know I have told you a Lot of information to read and consider, and so let me give you a good visual of what a starting point could look like:
Commander / EDH
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This deck by the Professor I do recommend you consider as a base, and from there start as I have done, which was slowly acquire all the slivers (and imo minus the queen, and legion at least at first), I actually was quite fortunate to receive most of the slivers needed for my list from a friend who had their very own Sliver Overlord deck and he sold/traded me eventually most of it as he was getting out of commander. I picked up stuff like Gemhide Sliver, Manaweft Sliver, Necrotic Sliver, Harmonic Sliver, Heart Sliver, Galerider Sliver and Crystalline Sliver if I recall first by cash and standard trades.
Then I got a few things like a Chromatic Lantern, Merciless Eviction, Heartstone, and Training Grounds for more additions. Eventually I started with getting the shocks and fetches (the khans fetches are cheaper) again the cheaper ones like Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills, Temple Garden, Overgrown Tomb, Hallowed Fountain, and worked my way up having more than half of them (I'm currently only missing 3 fetches and 3 shocklands).
I got my Sliver Queen and Sliver Legion from the same friend who took apart his sliver list (it's unfortunate he sold it's entire manabase and then just kept the slivers before I even met him at my lgs though), after I had all the rest of the creatures and up until that point I focused more on an aggro/voltron strategy. I bought him some very pricey modern staples (2x Chalice of the Void before there reprint and traded an Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger for these 2 slivers and to nearly finish a whole deck to play for modern :)
You can then later like i'm soon about to do myself soon I think, start to buy things like a Mana Crypt, Mana Drain, Demonic Tutor, Wheel of Fortune, etc to make the deck more competitive.To give you an idea where i'm at, here's my decklist (I'm missing 16 cards in all from it) also that's cheaper than what you see here:
Commander / EDH*
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I did not exactly plan on writing essentially a book on this for you lol, and so I apoligize. In summary start by acquiring if you don't already own any these above suggested lands, and start acquiring all the slivers you can, I recommend get ones like Sliver Hivelord, Diffusion Sliver and or Crystalline Sliver, Blur Sliver, Gemhide Sliver + Manaweft Sliver, Bonescythe Sliver, Syphon Sliver, Heart Sliver, Harmonic Sliver, Galerider Sliver + Winged Sliver, and others like Predatory Sliver, Sinew Sliver, Muscle Sliver all of which are pretty cheap. Then you will want Chromatic Lantern, plenty of signets, Darksteel Ingot, Commander's Sphere, Fellwar Stone, maybe the newly reprinted Coalition Relic which is a bit cheaper now. Then start upgrading the manabase(Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Unclaimed Territory, Sliver Hive, Ancient Ziggurat are all a good start. Then go with maybe getting the filterlands which thankfully have been reprinted and are now a lot cheaper,(Flooded Grove, Twilight Mire,...) and the shocks/fetches prioritizing the ones for green like Breeding Pool, Overgrown Tomb, Windswept Heath, Wooded Foothills because you will want green I would say more than any of your colours to cast stuff like Manaweft Sliver + Gemhide Sliver, Kodama's Reach/Rampant Growth/Cultivate etc. Once you have most if not all of the slivers and the mana base then you can go back to refining the deck with medium to high end upgrades like Mana Crypt, Volrath's Stronghold, Demonic Tutor, Vampiric Tutor, Pact of Negation, and such. Personally in my case i'm refraining from the original duels for budget reasons myself as I can't ever see myself getting enough use out of them to make them worth it fully. Anyways I hope this gives you lots to think about!
(Final note), consider Spirit of Resistance at least initially if you think you can either protect it with counterspells or in a meta where enchantment removal won't be an issue :)
9 months ago
Galerider Sliver - all your slivers get flying for . What's not to love?
I am going to second Paradox Engine--it's just that good with Sliver Overlord and Gemhide Sliver. Once you have 5 Slivers in play, you can fetch and cast every Sliver in your deck in the same turn (fetching Heart Sliver first). You should really consider Manaweft Sliver to increase your chances of hitting this combo. As unfortunate as the new Sliver designs may be, this card is too strong to pass up.
10 months ago
You do not need any slivers with a converted mana cost over 2. They're a hyper-aggressive tribe, and your goal is to flood the board as quickly as possible.
To that end, you should focus on the best of the best.
I would run four copies of the following:
- Galerider Sliver
- Muscle Sliver
- Predatory Sliver
- Sinew Sliver
- Leeching Sliver
- Sidewinder Sliver (multiple instances of flanking stack, so you could easily give -2/-2 to blockers, before damage is declared. Quite nice for a one-drop).
I would run 3 copies of the following, since their abilities are redundant:
- Crystalline Sliver
- Heart Sliver
- Hibernation Sliver
- Sentinel Sliver (so you can use your slivers for blocking also)
The only 3 mana sliver I would consider is Harmonic Sliver, and only run that if you need artifact or enchantment hate.
For your lands, focus on cards that produce all 5 colours: City of Brass, Mana Confluence, Cavern of Souls (budget permitting/if your group allows proxies), Unclaimed Territory. Don't worry about City of Brass/Mana Confluence's damage--your goal is to flood the board with death long before your opponent can whittle you down.
Also, Aether Vial is obscenely good with slivers--probably a bit too expensive for casual play, unless your group allows proxies.
Edit: And be sure to keep your list to 60 cards!