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|Premium Deck Series: Slivers (PDS)||Common|
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Creature — Sliver
All Slivers have ": Regenerate this permanent."
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Clot Sliver Discussion
3 months ago
The lack of card tags makes your post hard to read. :(
Chromatic Lantern - I know. When I posted this deck I wasn't sure if I had one available and was with little spare time to check. I do and I will add it.
Swords - Don't have them. Also, I don't think that a sliver deck needs them.
Sensei's Divining Top - That's adding insult to injury. I might add it.
Obelisk is part of the deck since day 1. :P
Coat of Arms - That's a card that fits the "redundancy" type of card. I might (most surely will) add it. I'm just unsure if I should run Coat or Door.
Training Grounds - Unfortunately I don't have a spare one. That's the only reason I'm not using it.
Bribery - None available. Not sure I'd want it in here either.
Amoeboid Changeling - Cute... Just unsure if I prefer that or Unnatural Selection which is on the deck. Ok. Selection can't be tutored and requires 1 mana... And... With Intruder Alarm the Changeling is better. I'm sold on that.
Diffusion Sliver - I prefer Root Sliver.
Clot Sliver - I was considering either Clot or Sedge Sliver. Sedge sounds better but it will have to depend on my ability to produce black mana. I need to playtest to check which I prefer. Sedge takes that slot for now.
Acidic Sliver - It's either this or Cautery Sliver... In a deck that might explode into infinite slivers, I might prefer Cautery.
Hibernation Sliver - It saves slivers, yes. It's on my sideboard from the start. I might add it, yes.
Ward Sliver - Taking the place of Shifting Sliver, yes.
Pulmonic Sliver - Is in right from the start.
Might Sliver - Might very well be added.
Fury Sliver - Bonescythe Sliver is better.
Hunter Sliver - Is on my maybe but am a bit unsure if I want to use it.
Crypt Sliver - Again, Sedge sounds better.
Yes, when you have the whole Magic spells available to you, cutting them to 100 cards (lands included) is a pain! This deck, although trying to make it fun will hardly ever see gameplay. When I show up a sliver deck my group will make a target. So I'll try to make it memorable for the few games where I bring it on. :)
4 months ago
"My goal with the Sliver deck was to have a highly synergystic creature combo deck that wins by attacking with creatures for obscene, unblockable, sliver damage."
Just so we're clear, it sounds like you want to build an aggro deck. Yes? Well in that case, Overlord isn't exactly the choice for you. He's a great sliver, but he's not the only choice...and he's suited to more control/midrange decks. It sounds like Sliver Hivelord or Sliver Legion are the choices for you. Additionally, you'd want to put in some means for tutoring creatures i.e. Worldly Tutor. Additionally, you'll have to cut back on slivers to make room for more spells and enchantments that contribute to your wincon. Here are some recommended cuts:
Virulent Sliver > Shared Animosity. If you are hitting your opponent 10 times to kill them, then you're doing something wrong. Virulent just isn't worth the effort because much like Diffusion Sliver the ability needs to stack in order to be effective. But since you can only have one Virulent Sliver, it's just not worth including.
Metallic Mimic > Megantic Sliver. having more lords available to you is just best. Besides it's like a huge bomb going off when hitting the field. The icing on the cake is that it also has sweet promo art.
Amoeboid Changeling > Xenagos, God of Revels (or Magma Sliver) you don't necessarily have to stick to slivers only. There are other creatures out there that offer alot to your battle strategy. But Amoeboid isn't aggro based. It's strictly for synergy with Sliver Overlord which doesn't really fit your game plan.
6 months ago
Hey there, I see you got some great suggestions already, but let me still try to suggest a few more.
I think cut out the following and swap for these suggestions:
Then like I said already, I think you got some good suggestions even before me, and I would follow those and cut down that creature count still a bit more. Let me know though if you need any more help!
6 months ago
First, i'd like to say that it'd be my pleasure to help you streamline your deck. So what you're seeking is efficiency, cutting the number of slivers that are redundant, or don't contribute as much...okay...i'll make some cases for what you can cut and place them into "must cut" and "maybe cut" depending on your meta and what direction you'd want to take your deck in.
Constricting Sliver: The cost simply isn't worth it. CMC 6 for a 3/3 that can only exile creatures is really underwhelming.
Darkheart Sliver: Only useful against mass removal events. Basically, he's just meant to kind of discourage them. Outside of that, CMC 2 for a 2/2 isn't bad. Doesn't contribute much past that though. You can cut this.
Hunter Sliver: Provoke is interesting, but I don't think this guy belongs given your current general. Sliver Overlord is the control oriented sliver general (Queen is combo, Legion/Hivelord are aggro). Hunter is neat, but he doesn't fit.
Lymph Sliver: No. Just no. On top of being a CMC 5 cost for a paltry 3/3, Absorb is a joke of an ability at best. It's a neat? concept but even Wizards just outright abandoned it after they thought it up. Lymph is literally THE ONLY card in all of magic to have that ability...which is awful.
Sidewinder Sliver: This guy is only any good when there are more than one. Since flanking is a triggered ability it stacks. That means with 4 sidewinders in play all creatures without flanking who are getting blocked by slivers get -4/-4. But with only 1 sidewinder, a measly -1/-1 will hardly stop anything. Especially in EDH.
Thorncaster Sliver:Has neat synergy with Venom Sliver. Outside of that, it seems to be too niche of an ability to make much of an impact. CMC 5 for a 2/2 makes it an auto removal in my opinion. You have better things to spend your mana on.
Root Sliver: Inclusion of this sliver is highly dependent on your meta. If you face counter happy decks on the regular, then definitely a must include. But if are only seeing counterspells once every blue moon (like me) then this card isn't worth the permanent slot. Keep in on the sideboard.
Telekinetic Sliver: A neat sliver, but i'd say it's highly dependent on where you want your deck to go. If you were running something like Mind Over Matter or Paradox Engine I could see this being very interesting...but just putting it in...(giggity) doesn't seem all that worthwhile. But that's just me.
Toxin Sliver: Has a very quirky and weird triggered ability that is NOT deathtouch. My problem with this guy though, is that he's a CMC 4 for a 3/3. Good synergy with Thorncaster Sliver, but not all too useful in a control oriented sliver deck. If you were going aggro? That'd be a different story.
Ward Sliver: I have mixed feelings about this one. CMC 5 for a 2/2 is an automatic no, but protection from a color of your choice can be outright amazing depending on the situation. Use your best judgement on this one, but really take a moment and examine what direction you want your deck to go in.
Hope my thoughts gave you some guidance on where you want to go with your deck. I'll definitely keep watching to see where it goes...keep on slivering my friend. Oh, and +1 for ya!
11 months ago
LVL_666, I agree with the hexproof ability. It's something I have been dreaming about for a while as well.
As far as the Crypt Sliver is concerned, consider replacing it with the Clot Sliver. You would still have regeneration, but without the need to target. And with Mana Echoes and Training Grounds, the mana cost for the Clot's ability is negligible.
11 months ago
Thank you so much for showing me your deck!!! This is wonderful, and if you don't mind I might take some of the ideas for your infinite combos to add to my deck.
Have you thought about running Clot Sliver as well? With your infinite mana/colorless mana combos you could forever sac and regen all of your slivers completely controlling the board.
1 year ago
In response to Ulamog's Crusher, there's not much I can say. You can try to race them, or take the 2 sacrifices, then gang up on the crusher with multiple blockers.
1 year ago
Grind Thanks for the +1 on my page! After you talked about your deck a little, I must admit I found the concept to be very unique...which can be a rarity when dealing with Sliver decks, as concepts can be rather repetitive. Honestly, even my deck isn't that unique. But yours is pretty cool and different.
Your deck seems to rely on winning in the mid to late game, where you play indestructible slivers and boardwipe constantly. You also play a lot of control spells to keep your opponents at bay...but honestly I feel that your deck can be so much more.
You need to lose some slivers - while it's nice to have a large number of options, I think you have too many slivers in your deck. Not to mention, you have some really bad ones. Let's be honest here, not all slivers are created equally. What I think you should do is cut the following slivers: Battering Sliver,Sidewinder Sliver, Reflex Sliver, Mnemonic Sliver, Megantic Sliver, Might Sliver, Frenetic Sliver, Firewake Sliver, Clot Sliver. While they all perform various functions that help the hive, they should be cut to make room for more effective spells.
What to add? - There are various artifacts that I think would definitely help your deck big time, obviously there are staples like Mana Crypt, and Coalition Relic...but then there are other cards that help establish indestructibility for your broodlings like Eldrazi Monument, Shield of Kaldra, Boros Charm or That Which Was Taken. Or you could look outside of slivers and include some legendary creatures like Blightsteel Colossus or Darksteel Colossus.
Also, you should add a bit more removal - Oblivion Stone helps because you can save one creature, and remove all others. It's a good alternative spell to use if you don't have any means to establish indestructibility for your broodlings. Adding more targeted removal would be helpful as well - Vindicate and Anguished Unmaking. Those cards I totally swear by.
One interesting synergy that fits your deck's playstyle is Ghostflame Sliver + All Is Dust. It's definitely a late game win strategy, but Ghostflame Sliver is definitely a creature can go under the radar (until your opponents know what will come after).
Again, thanks for the input on my deck, hope my words help yours improve as well. Oh, and +1 for ya!