Thought Collapse


Format Legality
Pre-release Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Custom Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Vintage Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Modern Legal
Arena Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Standard Legal
Pauper EDH Legal
Leviathan Legal
Legacy Legal
Brawl Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Casual Legal
Unformat Legal
Pauper Legal
Commander / EDH Legal

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Ravnica Allegiance (RNA) Common

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Thought Collapse


Counter target spell. Its controller puts the top three cards of their library into their graveyard.

Thought Collapse Discussion

thatFigureS on Dimir Control/Mill

4 weeks ago

I'd suggest splashing . Esper allows you to access some powerful cards.

This is what I would have:

1x Absorb

3x Ashiok, Dream Render

2x Tyrant's Scorn

3x Chemister's Insight

2x Cry of the Carnarium

2x Dovin's Veto

4x Drowned Secrets

2x Enter the God-Eternals

1x Narset, Parter of Veils

3x Teferi, Time Raveler

2x Thought Collapse

4x Thought Erasure

3x Time Wipe

2x Vraska's Contempt

This way you have more than half your deck will be containing symbols so they will trigger Drowned Secrets . Having the current counter spells hinders your deck greatly as well as your missing all of that spicy removal. Don't worry about creature count at all, your playing control after all.

MrRotten on Blue/Black Milling

1 month ago

So just for reference, I wanted to share the Deck that I used for Testing Ashiok on MTGA.

I went 4 - 0 in Matches, 3 of them were Esper Control decks.

So not alot of testing, but what happened was is I was able to get a good feel for how good Ashiok alone is to mill out an Opponent.

4 Ashiok, Dream Render

2 Search for Azcanta

4 Discovery / Dispersal

4 Thought Erasure

4 Sinister Sabotage

2 Negate

2 Syncopate

2 Ritual of Soot

4 Vraska's Contempt

2 Cast Down

2 Moment of Craving

2 Chemister's Insight

4 Watery Grave

4 Drowned Catacomb

1 Submerged Boneyard

1 Memorial to Genius

2 Field of Ruin

6 Island

8 Swamp

The deck doesn't look like much, like I said, I designed it to test Ashiok and Ashiok only first...

I am planning to develop this strategy more.

Cards like Spark Double and Jace, Wielder of Mysteries are among considerations to definitely add to the Strategy.

I also do like Thought Collapse to replace Sinister Sabotage .

I think my list ran too many Counters - UNLESS - your Meta is heavy Control, then I'd say the extra Counters to protect your Mill pieces are fine.

The thing that makes this Mill strategy Effective, is because Ashiok is so powerful, at 3 mana, so it can easily be protected with Counter Backup. Tick Down Ashiok to death, then bring Ashiok back with Aid the Fallen or other effective strategies like Copying Ashiok with Spark Double.

I wish you good luck!! I'll be keeping an eye on your progress for sure for Ideas. Ty!

buggz666 on Blue/Black Milling

1 month ago

Here are some cards I think would better your deck friend Persistent Petitioners Thought Collapse Psychic Corrosion Opt

ticked-off-squirrel on Merfolk Poke.

1 month ago

SP3CTR3_chelts i run 2 CtM cause when i use 1 my graveyard will go back in while it goes to the graveyard then when i use the second one the first one will go back in and i basically have an unlimited deck. and if nothing else it's a card draw. i dont have Curious Obsession or i might put them in there. i run the 4 swords to make my unblockables stronger. though looking at it the cutlass does seem a tad heavy. Drowned Secrets does look fun but i dont have it. you are right though i could drop the Cancel s all together for Thought Collapse .

SP3CTR3_chelts on Merfolk Poke.

1 month ago

I do like the deck with the ability to swap between two stratagies like that.

Curious Obsession works very well with your unblockable creatures. I would swap 4 of these in for the 2 Pirate's Cutlass and 2 short swords

I'd also mainboard Thought Collapse freeing up SB options by taking cancel out of the deck entirely. This SB room could be used for Drowned Secrets .

I'm also unclear why you run Clear the Mind ?

Galdwyr on Lord of the Lies

1 month ago

Really loving this deck, Ender666666! Always wondered how to make mill viable in EDH because of the desire to run Phenax, God of Deception as a commander one day! Wondering if you've considered recent cards like Psychic Corrosion , Thought Collapse and perhaps even Fraying Sanity ? Anyway, great stuff!

AEVA on Unfair Mimeoplasm Toolbox

1 month ago


1) Replaced Wurmcoil Engine with Impervious Greatwurm as I believe it to be a better reanimation target.

2) Replaced Golgari Signet & Dimir Signet by Golgari Locket & Dimir Locket as I believe they are better.

3) Replaced Cancel with Thought Collapse as it fit the deck theme better.

rjphilla on Thoughts and Prayers

1 month ago

Be careful of cards like Thought Collapse that put cards into your opponents' graveyards.

The modern meta WANTS cards in their graveyard. Dredge

Phoenix decks

Control decks

They all want cards in their graveyard


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Thought Collapse occurrence in decks from the last year


All decks: 0.09%

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All decks: 0.0%