|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Commander 2013 (C13)||Rare|
Combos Browse all
If one or more tokens would be put onto the battlefield, twice that many of those tokens are put onto the battlefield instead.
If one or more +1/+1 counters would be placed on a creature, twice that many +1/+1 counters are placed on that creature instead.
Primal Vigor Discussion
1 day ago
Love the deck list. I have my own ghave deck and you gave me a few ideas.
I run a few cards though that seem like excellent inclusions to your deck. Primal Vigor and to a lesser extent Anointed Procession and Parallel Lives run well with ghave. Also, Crystalline Crawler and Workhorse can fetch you infinite mana fairly easy. I know some of these have already been suggested, but is there any reason you don't run them?
1 week ago
Marisi is so rad. You might find these to your liking: Curse of Stalked Prey , Curse of Predation , Genesis Chamber , Seed the Land , Coat of Arms , Primal Vigor , Varchild's War-Riders , Authority of the Consuls , Crown of Doom , Hunted Dragon , Alliance of Arms , Death by Dragons , Unquestioned Authority , Whispersilk Cloak , Nature's Revolt
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
No Bojuka Bog , Exotic Orchard , Commander's Sphere , Field of Ruin , or any of the Talismans. Yet, I see Path to Exile , Strip Mine , Phyrexian Arena , and Rhystic Study . While all of these are commander staples in their respective colors, I'd recommend refining the deck before just making a budget '5 color Good Junk' deck. While card advantage is great, the money would be better spent on something like Smothering Tithe , Revel in Riches , Black Market , Land Tax , Exploration , or Burgeoning . At least those will help cast your commander faster.
Cut out some of the nonbasic lands, starting with guildgates, and put in the Panorama lands, and swap the bounce lands for basic lands (unless you intend to add landfall).
I also see that you're running Thought Vessel and Reliquary Tower , but have you considered Spell Book, Praetor's Counsel , or Library of Leng ? Library of Leng has the added benefit of protecting you from discard effects. If you're going to run cards like Phyrexian Arena and Rhystic Study it pays to protect your hand.
How about protection yourself while you're at it. Crawlspace , Norn's Annex , Sphere of Safety , Propaganda , Ghostly Prison , Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts , Glacial Chasm , Solitary Confinement and other such cards make great protection for decks with few to no other creatures.
Back to the subject of drawing cards. What are you even trying to draw for? You don't seem to have any major combos worth drawing for. At least throw in some cards like Furnace of Rath , Bitter Feud , Curse of Bloodletting , Dictate of the Twin Gods , Inquisitor's Flail , Gisela, Blade of Goldnight , and/or some double strike equipment/enchantments. Or Helm of the Host with a toke copying effect like Parallel Lives , Anointed Procession , Growing Ranks , Second Harvest , Rhys the Redeemed , and Primal Vigor .
Just some things to think about.
3 weeks ago
Ok. So depending entirely on YOUR meta, I'm not a fan of a bunch of the lands. You have 4-5 of the 'pay 2life or it ETBs tapped'. That's 8-10 life. Sure you got lifelink on a bunch of guys, but cmdr isn't guaranteed. I'd consider swapping those out, unless it was purely because you have those already. Atraxa has 4/5 mtg colors, I'd run the
as stats say your opp will likely be running 2-4 colors, meaning you'll have 1-3 colors in common min.
Your utility lands like the Bastion and Gavony are great choices for this. On the same related note check if you have a Coat of Arms , tribal almost demands you run this card and it can get OP real quick. I ran a Sigarda/human tribal and it wasn't uncommon to have 30 tokens with 30/30ea. They'll still die laughably to a disk or other similar wipe, but meh: 30x 30/30s.
- Assess that Darksteel Plate. I know it is great if you're running 1 fatty, but you should have a s$^&-ton of tokens. I'd consider swapping it for others.
- You got a lot of low CMC instants, but no Isochron Scepter . Consider running this, or sideboarding it. It explains itself.
- The Gilded Lotus. Replace that. Thran Dynamo , Lotus Vale would be my ideas. That or just playtest without another mana rock
- Assess the usefulness of that jellyfish. It seems cumbersome.
- Consider Lord of Extinction . I know Tormod and Dakmor et al can vaporize him with graveyard hate, but otherwise he's pretty solid. Give him trample/first/death/lifelink and ppl will hate you.
- Misc Suggestions: Odric, Master Tactician , Plaguemaw Beast , Anointed Procession , Perilous Forays , Cloudshift , Reclaim , Rootborn Defenses ...Finally EDH staples to assess The Disk, Panharmonicon , Strionic Resonator , Silence , Doom Blade / Murder
- ONE CARD TO ADD NO MATTER WHAT: Primal Vigor . Self-explanatory.
Well...That is all I got at the moment. You're really going heavy tokens so that's fine, just be sure to stay focused and not trying too many different things. :)
3 weeks ago
I would start by upgrading your token generators. Enchantments like Parallel Lives , Anointed Procession , and Doubling Season should be a must. If you need a budget alternative for Doubling Season, go for Primal Vigor . The problem with the latter is that it also affects your opponents' tokens. As far as planeswalkers go, Ajani, the Greathearted does not really work in this kind of deck. You should think about other options like Elspeth, Sun's Champion , Freyalise, Llanowar's Fury , and even Elspeth, Knight-Errant would perform better than Ajani. The deck also seems to lack removal, so I would consider adding cards like Return to Dust , Song of the Dryads , Lignify , Aura Shards (this one should be a must), Swords to Plowshares , and Path to Exile . A budget artifact that I would consider adding is Throne of the God-Pharaoh because you will constantly be tapping your creatures, so it'll trigger. It's won me multiple games. Other enchantments to consider are Mirari's Wake , Smothering Tithe (ramps you up big time), Cryptolith Rite , Divine Visitation (a must!), and Sylvan Library . In the creature department, definitely add Craterhoof Behemoth because that's the main win con for token decks. Other creatures you can add are Avacyn, Angel of Hope (adds protection to your board/ends games. If you can't afford this angel, then I would go with Akroma, Angel of Wrath because it'll do nicely if you are running Tooth and Nail ), Avenger of Zendikar , Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , and Voice of Resurgence . Your artifact section seems to be spot on; if anything, I'd just consider Akroma's Memorial , Ashnod's Altar , and Eldrazi Monument . As far as sorceries, you could add Wrath of God , Finale of Glory , Tooth and Nail (if you resolve the entwine it's game over), and Natural Order . Maybe, Triumph of the Hordes if you have a large board. Once you have some of those pieces, you can start working on your mana base. If you cannot afford a Gaea's Cradle , then definitely go with Growing Rites of Itlimoc Flip (not as fast as the cradle, but since you are running a token deck, it should flip the turn you cast it). Fetches are always nice, so anything that can fetch for a forest or plains will come in handy. I would also add Temple Garden , Razorverge Thicket , Canopy Vista , Wooded Bastion , and Bountiful Promenade . Other cards that will tutor things are Green Sun's Zenith and Chord of Calling . Overall the deck looks good!
3 weeks ago
I really dig the intent behind this design! It always feels bad when a new player gives up on the game because they got stomped on too much. Seems like this deck can help new players to enjoy the game alongside seasoned players. I have a Phelddagrif deck of similar design (hug only 1 player) if you'd like to check it out.
I'm thinking these cards would be right up your alley: Null Chamber , Pir's Whim , Zndrsplt's Judgment , Regna's Sanction , Virtus's Maneuver , Infernal Offering , Intellectual Offering , Sylvan Offering , Benevolent Offering , Bramble Sovereign , Primal Vigor , Dawnbreak Reclaimer , Assault Suit
1 month ago
I'd also like to say that as wonderful as Primal Vigor should be, my husband has a deck that's focus is Myr tokens, so it could end up backfiring horribly (or being incredibly useful in two-headed giant... things to consider)!
I really appreciate both of your suggestions, thank you!
Also, glad you like the name Fenryr. I used it for my original Hydra deck in MTGA, and my husband ended up stealing the name when he made his own MTGA hydra deck. I just enjoy a certain set of films, personally, so it was kind of a no brainer for me!
Primal Vigor occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%