Primal Vigor

Enchantment

If one or more tokens would be put onto the battlefield, twice that many of those tokens are put onto the battlefield instead.

If one or more +1/+1 counters would be placed on a creature, twice that many +1/+1 counters are placed on that creature instead.

Discussion (51)

Kogarashi on Corpsejack Menace and Devour

6 days ago

The act of entering the battlefield with a number of +1/+1 counters on it still qualifies for counters being placed, which implicates the doubling effect of Corpsejack Menace and similar cards like Doubling Season and Primal Vigor.

From the Gatherer rulings for Corpsejack Menace:

• If a creature you control would enter the battlefield with a number of +1/+1 counters on it, it enters with twice that many instead. (2017-11-17)

PhyrexianWombat on Marisi what I did there

1 week ago

goldlion Thanks for all the suggestions! I'll give my thoughts on all of them here:

Commander Eesha Cool card! love the art and seems very useful! My one thought is that I prioritized keeping my evasive creatures mostly below 4cmc, since ideally I'd like to swing in on the turn Marisi hits the board. This still seems like it could be worth including though since it's always gonna be unblockable.

Descent of the Dragons YES! I don't know how I missed this, it does what I was going for with Mogg Infestation but much better. Definitely will be including this once I get one.

Terastodon is a card I've always liked, but I just wasn't sure if its cost was too high for this mostly aggressive deck. Definitely worth a try though, I'll test some games with him!

Blade of Selves Awesome, unique effect, and I have one in my collection already! Great suggestion!

Primal Vigor I had one, but I gave it to the Ghired player. I'll get one for sure when I get a chance, it's great in the deck, but it's sadly pretty expensive.

I agree with the thought about small flyers, I'll probably want some better evasive stuff, though hopefully still low on the curve. Happy to hear more ideas if you have any!

Some other cards I found in my collection since putting this list together, and am considering adding, are Sunblast Angel, Master Warcraft, Rhythm of the Wild, and Naya Charm The first two seem especially suited to the deck's goals, while the latter two are just solid and flexible cards in our colors. I like that Sunblast Angel can wipe the board of our last oppenent standing, so that we can easily finish them off at the game's finale.

goldlion on Marisi what I did there

1 week ago

Maybe removing a few more of the straight vanilla fliers? As much to get it to 100 as to keep it to novel cards that spice things it up. I like that goblin ballon brigade makes you work for it... not efficient, but fun(ny).

Oh man, I remember I used to have a Soltari Foot Soldier... totally forgot about that card, but I remember loving the art when I had it 22 years ago. Bonus points for this one.

I like the cards that are giving other people creatures.. What about Descent of the Dragons as a removal for things that are hurting your strategy, and as a trade giving them beaters to hit your other opponents? Sharing is caring after all. Terastodon could also be excellent in the flavour of removal.

An eventual card to add—if this deck proves to be fun enough to keep together and do 1 or 2 little upgrades for—would be Blade of Selves. Myriad cards could be great to explore in general, but it's nice to be able to choose which creature has it.

Primal Vigor? A sweet global enchantment, especially when you WANT to give other people tokens and counters.

I wish there was black in here... Clackbridge Troll (eldraine) would be fun.

Loving the chaos!!

Henryclay30 on The Great Compromiser Wishes to ...

1 week ago

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MinotaurtheMatador on Card creation challenge

2 weeks ago

Haulti, Bard of Rampages

Legendary Planeswalker - Haulti

+1 Add two of , or in any combination. Spend this only on creature spells.

+1 Create a 3/3 green Dinosaur creature token. It gains Riot until end of turn.

-6 Until end of turn, whenever you cast a creature spell, create a token copy of it.

{Haulti, Bard of Rampages can be your Commander.}

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Fun little Timmy Commander in the form of a Planeswalker. Definitely would build with Parallel Lives, Doubling Season, Anointed Procession, Primal Vigor and Flameshadow Conjuring.

How about you balance her out by making a Johnny or Spike Commander Planeswalker. I'm thinking at least include blue to flatten the dynamic a little. Otherwise anything else goes.

NV_1980 on Ajani's Reservoir

3 weeks ago

Hi Epicurus,

Yes, the effects of Panharmonicon and Primal Vigor are indeed quite different, but there are a lot of counter- and token decks out there these days, so any benefit you can get from having them enter the field that's one-sided is almost always going to be better than bonuses granted to opponents as well. Best of luck with the deck!

Regards, Mrs. and Mr. NV_1980

Epicurus on Ajani's Reservoir

3 weeks ago

Good suggestions, thank you both!

Yes, card draw is something I feel like I need more of. I had already considered Dawn of Hope and Shamanic Revelation, but my experience with the former is that it is too slow, and as for the latter, I'm concerned that it would draw me too many cards. However, Mentor the meek and Lifecrafter's Bestiary are both worth a look.

I also had already considered Ajani, Mentor of Heroes, and while, yes, that ult is wildly tempting, it feels like I don't need it. On the other hand, Panharmonicon seems like it might be even more useful for the deck than Primal Vigor; it costs one less and only grants its ability to me. I know their effects are very different from each other, but do you think that I would benefit from swapping them?

Phyrexian Processor and True Conviction are both also definite maybes. I do already have somewhat of a mana curve issue, but had recently been suggested Endless Horizons, which will help a lot to deal with that. I'm sure that I can find a way to fit them both in here.

As for the commander, Shalai, Voice of Plenty is useful in more situations than Trostani, Selesnya's Voice. I think of Trostani more as just a redundancy of what many other cards in the deck do. Shalai is important for protecting the many planeswalkers, so I want to be sure to get her out every game.

Thanks again! Cheers!

irish_trunks on Simic Hydra commander

1 month ago

I would agree on the Primal Vigor and Doubling Season. Also for flavor and out of control counter generation, maybe work in Hydra's Growth.