Second Harvest

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Arena Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Gladiator Legal
Highlander Legal
Historic Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal

Second Harvest


For each token you control, create a token that's a copy of that permanent.

Max_Hammer on These silly hoomans - Need Help

3 months ago

Well hello there! I had way too much time on my hands, so here’s this. By the way, it’s all ordered best to worst. (:

Pay less to play more.

  • Circle of Dreams Druid is going to drop loads of mana, assuming you can pay the three green.
  • Fallaji Wayfarer is going to give all of your stuff (including your commander) convoke! Not all, but a lot.
  • Hamza, Guardian of Arashin is going to make a lot of your creatures cost a lot less.
  • Herald of War makes all of your humans dirt cheap if he gets counters. But, oh, what’s that? This deck loves making counters for creatures? Perfect.
  • Nissa's Expedition is just Cultivate but it potentially costs a lot less.
  • Gaea's Cradle is perfect if you have a small fortune laying around and you’re in need of mana.
I need more! More!!!

  • Bennie Bracks, Zoologist every time you make a token? So every turn? Alright, sick.
  • Ulvenwald Mysteries lets you investigate the murder of your entire army. A board wipe kills this deck, but this (plus loads of mana) could help bring it back.
  • Season of Growth lets you scry a lot, letting you look for pretty much whatever and just pull it out.
No, you’re not allowed to have that! Because I said so! Exile it! Now!

  • Devouring Light, Conclave Tribunal, Hour of Reckoning are all removal spells but if you’re on a mana budget with a lot of 1/1’s.
  • Elspeth Tirel is a board wipe, if you manage to keep her around for long enough. If that’s not what you need, though, she’s got plenty of utility otherwise.
  • Coordinated Barrage, Kabira Takedown  Flip, and Outflank aren’t super powerful, but can destroy pretty much anything that comes your way. If it’s not hexproofed, shrouded, or indestructible, it will be killed.
  • Devout Chaplain says “The power of Christ compels you! Begone!” but this time it actually works.
  • Sanctuary Lockdown lets you say “Not this combat phase, Satan,” and if you have enough mana, you can do that again and again and again. Plus, if you decide you can’t, then it’s still a big boy.
  • Kamahl's Will will destroy just about anything in sight and can give you extra attacking force, if you can manage a way to keep all of your lands safe.
Gotta keep your stuff safe, yeah?

  • Loxodon Hierarch is going to save your deck (which is very sensitive to board wipes) from a board wipe, judy once. Use wisely.
  • Scapegoat won’t save your tokens, but it will save everyone else, commander included.
  • Kindred Boon can slowly but surely make literally every creature you own indestructible.
  • Ephemeral Shields is extra protection that can easily be pulled out of your back pocket.
  • Basri's Lieutenant isn’t going to save your deck, but it will buy you time or give you a chance next turn at a kill, if the board wiper was low.
Make all of your stuff bigger!

Make more stuff! The theme of these suggestions is Give me more, if you couldn’t have guessed.

Might of the Masses is always fun in a creature deck, one green for a massive “Fuck you” at instant speed is great. Now here’s a bunch of Might of the Masses style cards.

I was looking for cards with the keyword “Human” and a million Gideon cards came up, so here’s all of the Gideon Planeswalkers. None of them are bad, per se, but all Gideon cards are not made equal.

  • Gideon, the Oathsworn just happens to slip and give all of your creatures an absurd number of counters. Not to mention the big body (noticing a pattern yet?) and the one-sided board wipe! He’s got a weird face again, sadly, pass.
  • Gideon, Champion of Justice is a board wipe and a big, bad creature all wrapped into one. 7/10, he can dominate me.
  • Gideon Jura can goad and destroy stuff. Perfect for removal and instigating fights when you know you’ll win. Not to mention the big scary 6/6 lurking beneath. Also a weird face, pass.
  • Gideon of the Trials reads “Fuck your biggest creature, he’s not going to do anything, and also, as long as I’m around, fuck you more.” Nothing crazy, but can definitely make you public enemy #1 for having an effect like that. Pretty normal face, but that ability makes him a dick. 3.4/10
  • Kytheon, Hero of Akros  Flip is just some kid. Ignore him. This is a child, pass.
  • Gideon, Battle-Forged!? Where did you come from? Nothing super interesting here, but for one mana not bad. Weird face, pass.
  • Gideon, Martial Paragon can give buffs to all of your stuff, which is definitely not bad at all, and your opponents are automatically dead if he gets that ten ability off. That said, this Gideon can get it. 10/10.
  • Gideon Blackblade is eh. He’s okay. He can get it, though. 7/10.
  • Gideon, Ally of Zendikar can do some generic Gideon stuff. Make tokens, give buffs, be a 4/4. Eh. 6.7/10.
This is just stuff I couldn’t find a specific panel for, so yeah.

Your deck is pretty spotless, so unless some of these are direct upgrades or you know what you want to take out, then this is all I have for you here.

  • Thraben Doomsayer’s first ability can be easily beaten by other cards, and his second ability is mostly useless, since you’re pretty screwed at 5 HP either way.
  • Heron's Grace Champion Lifelink is cool, but not something you super need. It’d be worth it if it was permanent, but it’s not, so pass.
  • Maja, Bretagard Protector just feels a little expensive for such a lackluster ability, Idunno.
  • GregariousG on You Wouldn't Download A Spell | *Primer*

    4 months ago

    To CoarselyRefined,lagotripha, and Calleb

    Thank you all for tech. I've been having this ongoing battle with including Cloudstone Curio and this really pushes my decision in that direction. As well, this encouraged me to add mutate creatures again and move away from spellslinger. From my understand, I can bounce a pile of mutate creatures back to my hand to do it all again. With Second Harvest, that will just produce a bunch of free creature tokens. Yeah, I'm sold. Thanks again.

    GregariousG on You Wouldn't Download A Spell | *Primer*

    4 months ago

    To Calleb

    Parallel Lives wasn't intended to double the tokens Ivy produced. Parallel Lives was there to make more copies of Ivy herself. However, I'm curious. How does that interaction work? If I have two sets of Curiosity on another creature and Ivy then Second Harvest, do the additional copies get attached to a creature or do they just enter without a target? Thanks!

    GregariousG on You Wouldn't Download A Spell | *Primer*

    4 months ago

    To Calleb,

    I don't think this deck produces enough tokens for Second Harvest. In my eyes, I rather have Parallel Lives for the persistent effect and I just cut that card. I'd be more willing to play Second Harvest in my Jinnie Fay list.

    Calleb on You Wouldn't Download A Spell | *Primer*

    4 months ago

    What do you think of Second Harvest?

    MilesHiles on J.N.R. Token - The Fellowship of the King

    4 months ago

    Thanks for the tips! I tried Mycoloth in the first version of the deck, as well as Second Harvest. The problem with Mycoloth was that I'd dump 3 or 4 creatures into it to Devour and by the time the turn came back to me, someone inevitably removed it. Second Harvest had a similar problem where anytime I needed it, I didn't have the token base to use it. Anytime I did have that token base, I didn't need to use it since my commander is also 4 mana and the magic number in this deck is just 9. Goblin Bombardment was heavily considered but came up a little lacking for a full table game in most situations I ran into. Though I do have an Iroas, God of Victory and a Phyrexian Altar on hand that I definitely plan to try out

    NV_1980 on J.N.R. Token - The Fellowship of the King

    4 months ago

    This looks like loads of potential fun. Mycoloth is one of my personal favorites for Naya token decks, as its token-generation can become quite ridiculous. For some additional protection to your swarm (when attacking), Iroas, God of Victory could be nice. Second Harvest seems a nice way to double-up in a heartbeat. I would also really consider a few sac-outlets, in case anyone tries to be cute by wiping your force while you don't have a counter available. Some ideas would be Goblin Bombardment, Phyrexian Altar and Food Chain. Have fun brewing!


    IHATENAMES on slimefoot saprolings

    4 months ago

    I'm unsure what direction you are planning as you seem to spread out a bit. Here is my suggestion though.

    Focus on aristocrats and tokens(preferably saprolings))

    Token doubler Parallel Lives Second Harvest Doubling Season

    Token Makers Bramble SovereignFungal Plots Tendershoot Dryad Fungal Sprouting Golgari Germination Jade Mage Sprout Swarm Saproling Symbiosis Korozda Guildmage

    Free Sac outlets are essential Viscera Seer Carrion Feeder

    Ramp Growing Rites of Itlimoc  Flip Circle of Dreams Druid Cryptolith Rite Ashaya, Soul of the Wild Rishkar, Peema Renegade and kinda Gala Greeters

    Saprolings synergies if you want Psychotrope Thallid

    Toski, Bearer of Secrets maybe for additional card draw

    Wincon ideas Aristocrats like Blood Artist Overwhelming Stampede Pathbreaker Ibex Yedora, Grave Gardener combo. I don't remember what the other pieces are atm. Yavimaya, Cradle of Growth + Life and Limb + way to profit off of every land dying or at least get ahead.

    My golgarideck

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