Reforged Again

Kjeldur, 4 years ago

Gruul tokens, based around Tana, The Bloodsower and similar cards. Meant to swarm the board and bring a quick end to the game.
MDN 0 / 0
Mutagenic Growth feature for Flames Unbound

Deck Edit

DoctorBarbarian, 4 years ago

Updated the mana base with newer lands (Rimewood Falls for tutorable dual color, and Barkchannel Pathway for budget dual).

Deck Edit

DoctorBarbarian, 4 years ago

Golgari Signet > Putrefax - A little more speed is needed early on so a cheap mana rock serves here, while Putrefax was fun but without more Infect it wasn't serving to do more than draw the table's attention as soon as it hit the graveyard.

Lithoform Engine > Fact or Fiction - Lithoform is becoming quite the utility piece in a few of my decks and here it just makes so much sense. Double up on Worldly Tutor for just three mana more? SURE! Copy any of my back-breaking permanents as they enter for 4 mana?! DEAL! Meanwhile, Fact or Fiction, though good card advantage for the hand and the 'yard, is just outclassed by other cards in the deck doing similar or same-y things.

Port of Karfell > Island: Utility land for mill/recursion is just good.

Ice Tunnel > Island: Even though it ETBs tapped, I'd rather have a tutorable dual-colored land in my land slot.

Barkchannel Pathway  Flip > Forest: Budget dual land. Duh.

Vorinclex +1/+1 counters

Dkronk42, 4 years ago

Uses voriclex for excessive amounts of +1/+1 counters then swings with trample. Has an infect win condition if desperate.
EDH 1 / 0
Deeproot Champion feature for Vorinclex

more devotion and more effective mana dork

Fallerup, 4 years ago

In: Gigantosaurusfoil & Leafkin Druid
Out: Verdant Sun's Avatar & Incubation Druid
I'm trying out this new thing I found. this deck often has many creatures out so Leafkin Druid will tap for 2 very often. the thing with Incubation Druid is that I very often need to pay 5 extra to give him counters so he taps for 3 mana which isn't very effective. if I had a natural way to give him + counters, then he would be more worth it. Gigantosaurusfoil is just a big dumb creature for 5 mana which is very easy to get to very fast in this deck + it gives 5 devotion for our Karametra's Acolyte so with it out she taps for 6 mana on her own with no other creature there.

Craptacular

rco, 4 years ago

My first pass at this deck was ineffective and not very fun. I decided to take one stab at unfucking it before pulling it apart.

One idea is to cut all of the off-theme ramp and go to 42-45 lands. The various scry effects help keep the top of the library clear in the late game, and traditional ramp doesn’t seem to be a good tempo investment and is definitely a bad cascade hit.

Cut for basics:

Swaps:

Possible adds:

Possible Cuts:

EDH 1 / 1
Apex Devastator feature for Averna Clashcade

The Great Lizard Skull Cometh!

Mortlocke, 4 years ago

When I started to pilot this deck (Realizing Dinosaurs embody my inner Timmy) i've always intended to acquire a special high-end deck box for it in the same fashion as my Sliver Deck The Queen's Egg. The problem however was that I had a very specific vision (a common problem that plagues me with my decks as well) - I wanted to get a deck box that resembles a Tyrannosaurus Rex's fossilized skull. Currently, there is no such product available - but luckily for me I found an artist who works with metals and cast resins who is willing to take up the task of building me my dream T-Rex Skull deck box - albeit at a pretty penny. Everything is in the early stages at the moment, but what's really awesome is the fact that I at least have a concept image to share:

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onesided removal

Fallerup, 4 years ago

In: Kindred Dominance
Out: Necropotence
I need more one sided removal that only removes my opponent's things and not my own. Necropotence is a fantastic card, but when I play this deck I'mn usually enemy number 1 so payng life to draw cards, unless its a one time thing isn't all that great. I do have life link in the deck, but not enough to justify this card.

balan's a woman lol

Super_Stone_Man117, 4 years ago

regender stuff so people dont yell at me

Big Update

Super_Stone_Man117, 4 years ago

Took out a bunch of the cats. The cat tribal for this deck was nonexistent compared to Balan shooting out commander damage faster than a jackrabbit on cocaine.

2nd update

sabbatical2005, 4 years ago

-1x Shattering Spree / -1x Flamekin Harbinger --> +2x Quest for Pure Flame The more damage, the better.

-2x Faithless Looting --> +1x Reforge the Soul +1x Risk Factor Better to draw more cards instead of discarding the same amount.

-1x Braid of Fire --> +1x Runaway Steam-Kin Most of the instant effects are cut. Runaway fits the theme and helps with mana at sorcery speed.

-2x Chandra's Spitfire --> +2x Rekindling Phoenix I love the phoenix for it's flavor and strength. It's a very constant blocker against flying decks.

-2x Glacial Chasm / -1x Mountain --> +3xMyriad Landscape Cut the chasm because i now damage my opponent instead of all players. Myriad has an art which fits to the theme and helps with lands early game.

-4x Mountain --> +3x Valakut Awakening  Flip / +1x Bonders' Enclave Added some new lands as well. Enclave fits the theme.

-1x Vow of Lightning --> +1x Anax, Hardened in the Forge Vow is fun but slow. Anax is fun and faster.

-1x Squee, Goblin Nabobfoil --> +1x Goblin Chainwhirler Also a flavourfull goblin and adds to the idea of the deck. Also most of the discarding cards were cut earlier.

-1x Anger --> +1x Tuktuk Rubblefort Provides haste as well and has reach.

-1x Lord of Shatterskull Pass --> +1x Moraug, Fury of Akoum Lord was too slow, but had the feel because of the creature type. Added another minotaur.

-1x Stigma Lasher --> +1x Soulbright Flamekin for mana fix. Sitgma was too slow.

-2x Flamekin Harbinger --> +1 Cosmotronic Wave / +1x Bonfire of the Damned No need for searching elementals, more damage and free attack.

-1x Siege Dragon --> +1x Dragon Mage Because the number of flyers in my casual games keeps increasing. Siege dragon only damages non-flying creatures. Dragon mage helps searching for answers.

I also added some cards, for more diversity:

+3x Mountain +1x Myriad Landscape +1x Bonders' Enclave

+1x Quakebringer (Fun and fits the theme) +1x Soulbright Flamekin (Gives trample to some creatures that really need it. +2x Runaway Steam-Kin (Mana fixers) +1x Embercleave (Must have finisher, gives double strike as well and scales nicely) +1x Fiery Emancipation (Must have, triple damage is so much fun) +1x Anax, Hardened in the Forge (Helps for blocking and get's heavy quickly. Also fun when you have purphoros out.) +1x Inferno Titan (Another giant that helps quakebringer and shoots damage itself.) +1x Immolation Shaman (Fun early drop that fits the theme.)

None

Noire_Samhain, 4 years ago

Out- Star Compass In- Thought Vessel

More small changes

temeref, 4 years ago

Deck has been struggling vs. artifact hate. The issue here is that, regardless of being hit by it as well, other good players tend to leave artifact hate in play due to this list's aggressive dump/refill strategy. So, I'm considering non-intrusive options for hitting planeswalkers, since one of the deck's MVP's Karn, the Great Creator is also one of it's greatest adversaries.

  • Reverberate, which was a Scroll Rack, has been swapped out for Soul Shatter. Reverberate was... okay, at best, but also wildly inconsistent. I wanted to try it vs. Ad Nauseam which is rampant in my meta, but even being able to copy it wasn't enough to stop what happened after the fact. RIP lol. Anyways, I was playing Soul Shatter for a while prior actually due to the instant speed nature of it, since it worked well at keeping permanents down for Smokestack and helped vs. indestructible targets (which helped with Devastation). It's one more mana than the more common Liliana's Triumph, an excellent budget option for any deck in black, but can also hit planeswalkers -- and has a much higher chance at hitting what you want it to. Usually it's Sisay decks running Karn, the Great Creator, and as such he will almost always be the highest CMC creature/walker in play during the turns where it matters.

  • Inquisition of Kozilek swapped out for Duress. I've ping-ponged between these two endlessly, but I think Duress is coming out ahead. So, Inquisition of Kozilek has a really strong upside of being able to hit Dockside Extortionist, Thassa's Oracle, or any other low-cmc creature. Generally that's good enough on it's own, but being able to Reanimate a discarded creature can be key to winning without Tevesh Szat, Doom of Fools. Roger provides one target, and having a second can speed up a win by an absurd amount. That said, despite Duress not aiding in that regard, it can hit Ad Nauseam, which is generally broadcast miles ahead and is an easy target. Even if they cast it in response, I can then discard whatever the most important card in their hand is, which can greatly lessen the power of said deck's all-in play. With how many Ad Nauseam decks I play against, any edge like this can help.

  • Rite of Flame is out for Lotus Petal. Technically petal is better in every way, except for the fact that it gets hit by artifact hate. Wasn't too keen on that idea which is why it was exempt for the longest time. I'm trying to get a more efficient mana base going, though, and being able to add the mana at instant speed rather than sorcery should help the overall deck a lot.

I didn't end up ordering a number of cards like Tarnished Citadel and Lotus Petal during my last batch of buys, so I guess I'll have to do that now lol.

Just gotta resist getting this bad boy... ![it's expensive but also shiny. very appealing to my goldfish brain.](https://c1.scryfall.com/file/scryfall-cards/large/front/a/7/a7da9157-fdb6-477f-a605-5ee325410fda.jpg?1562636808 "it's expensive but also shiny. very appealing to my goldfish brain.")

Revision

ioniboi, 4 years ago

Removed: Palladium Myr, Labyrinth of Skophos, Bonder's Enclave /// Added: Warping Wail, War Room, Crystal Vein Palladium Myr just dies too often too easily, Labyrinth was never used once -- too expensive, Enclave strictly worse than War Room /// Wail's back in and Crystal Vein is being put to the test
EDH 108 / 48
Kozilek, the Great Distortion feature for Eldrampzi

More Combos

iSacs1987, 4 years ago

In the last Games with this Deck I realized that this Deck needs more Combos to be able to react to more Board situations. Therefore I took some advices from the Comments and added new Cards like Grave Titan or Bastion of Remembrance to have more options available.

More value

jpxsat, 4 years ago

Previous average CMC: 1,97 -- down to 1,90 /// Removed - 2CMC Lightning Strike, Boiling Earth, Mind Stone - 3CMC Uncaged Fury, Soul's Fire - 5CMC Searing Barrage /// Added - 1CMC Burst Lightning - 2CMC Searing Blaze, Magma Jet, Searing Spear - 4 CMC Aftershock, Dead / Gone TEST: Changed Barrage of Boulders for Maximize Velocity as it adds recursion and sometimes I need some haste...
PDH 1 / 0
Guttersnipe feature for Pauper Snipe

First Edition

TheAvenger482, 4 years ago

Finished deck list. Kinda iffy on mana and speed at first glance. Will playtest to get a better feel for it.
EDH 0 / 0
Edgar Markov feature for Vampires

None

j1fry, 4 years ago

With thanks to https://www.coolstuffinc.com/a/markwischkaemper-11252020-around-the-wheel-o-kagachi-vengeful-kami