Lithoform Engine

Legendary Artifact

{2}, {T}: Copy target activated or triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.

{3}, {T}: Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.

{4}, {T}: Copy target permanent spell you control. (This copy becomes a token.)

Combos

• Dramatic Reversal + Lithoform Engine

Tokens

• Copy Clone

Legality

Format	Legality
1v1 Commander	Legal
Archenemy	Legal
Arena	Legal
Block Constructed	Legal
Canadian Highlander	Legal
Casual	Legal
Commander / EDH	Legal
Commander: Rule 0	Legal
Custom	Legal
Duel Commander	Legal
Gladiator	Legal
Highlander	Legal
Historic	Legal
Historic Brawl	Legal
Legacy	Legal
Leviathan	Legal
Limited	Legal
Modern	Legal
Modern Beyond Horizons	Legal
Oathbreaker	Legal
Pioneer	Legal
Planar Constructed	Legal
Planechase	Legal
Quest Magic	Legal
Vanguard	Legal
Vintage	Legal

Discussion (50)

Taida on That's a real nice deck ya got there

6 days ago

Nice concept of deck. One thing that other comments have mentioned, you are a bit split between something more akin to a Voltron deck and killing everybody with Commander damage and gracefully "borrowing" their library. In my oppinion the latter is the more interesting one, so its good to see a few dose of unblockable effects and doubling the triggers. To follow with this, I would add some more like Prowler's Helm or Whispersilk Cloak for equipments, or Adric, Mathematical Genius and Lithoform Engine for the triggers.

Now for using the graciously conceded cards from your opponents, I suggest Gonti, Night Minister, you end up generating a ton of treasures for free; and you can also include Agent of Treachery, not really for the first effect, but for allowing you to draw a lot of cards, keeping your hand full. I also do not think you will struggle with paying 7 mana for it, seeing how much ramp you have already in the deck.

For counters, I do not like Arcane Denial. In its place (and in general) I like to add counters that do not stay dead in your hand if you don't have a good target for them. Three Steps Ahead, Spellgyre, Archmage's Charm or Sublime Epiphany.

I also feel that the deck could benefit greatly from some tutors, as getting some of the trigger doublers, a protection or interaction piece or just the more game-ending equipments/auras like Eldrazi Conscription whenever you need them makes such a difference.

Finally, I would heavily the inclusion of MDFC lands. Even very cheap Zendikar ones. They are so flexible and don't become a dead card in your hand if you end up drawing them later in the game.

Last_Laugh on The Sixth Doctor

3 months ago

Hey, just a heads up but you have a few things going on here that don't work within the rules like you want them to.

First off, your commander pairing actually doesn't work together. The Doctor explicitly states it triggers only once per turn so "triggers an additional time" effects like Clara Oswald and Roaming Throne won't cause the 6th Dr. to trigger again. You're after effects that copy his trigger or that copy his tokens after the fact. Twinning Staff, Strionic Resonator, Errant, Street Artist, and Esika's Chariot are all examples of the different things you CAN do in your colors that work with your Doctor. See my deck's description for more.

Second, Doubling Season and any other effects that care about a token being "created" won't trigger from the 6th Dr's. tokens. Rule 111.12 (see my deck's description, link below). Basically, a token that is the result of copying a permanent spell (6th Dr/Lithoform Engine's bottom ability) aren't "created" and won't trigger abilities like Doubling Season.

I personally run Peri Brown as my companion, but my deck should help with some great budget options even if you stay blue/green. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Dopplegangbangers - Historic Flash Convoke Copies

Last_Laugh on Time Paradox

3 months ago

Hey, just a heads up but Anointed Procession, Adrix and Nev, Bennie Bracks, and any other effect that care about a token being "created" don't work with The Sixth Doctor.

Rule 111.12 (in my decks description, link below). Basically it boils down to tokens that are the result of copying a permanent spell aren't "created" and won't trigger the above effects.

You're after effects that copy the Dr's trigger (copy specifically as "triggers an additional time" like Clara Oswald/Roaming Throne won't work here either) or that copy his tokens after they've already entered. Twinning Staff, Strionic Resonator, Errant, Street Artist, Romana II, City of Death, Esika's Chariot, Lithoform Engine, and Second Harvest are your best options here.

Feel free to check out my deck for other ideas. It's not superfriends but it should still give a few more ideas (and rule 111.12). Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Dopplegangbangers - Historic Flash Convoke Copies

king-saproling on Urza's Rocking Rugs

5 months ago

Ha great concept. What do you think of these? Luck Bobblehead, Powerstone Shard, Heartstone, Five Hundred Year Diary, Victory Chimes, Lithoform Engine, Adric, Mathematical Genius, Drift of Phantasms

Last_Laugh on Hawww

7 months ago

Twinning Staff, Errant, Street Artist, Strionic Resonator, and the top option on Lithoform Engine are all great ways to essentially copy the Dr.'s trigger. Second Harvest, Esika's Chariot, and City of Death are also great ways to copy your tokens after they hit the battlefield.

Last_Laugh on Doctor, doctor

7 months ago

Hey, just a heads up, but you have a few cards in here that work when Romana makes tokens but won't when The Sixth Doctor makes tokens due to tricky rules technicalities.

Adrix & Nev, Mondrak, and Parallel Lives trigger when a token is created but a token that is the result of copying a permanent spell isn't "created" and won't trigger the above cards. It's rule 111.12 if you feel like looking it up (or check my deck's description, link below).

You're after effects that COPY The 6th Dr.'s trigger, copy the spells he's copying, or that copy his tokens after the fact (I emphasize "copy" on the first one because "triggers an additional time" won't work). Twinning Staff, Errant, Street Artist, Strionic Resonator, Esika's Chariot, City of Death, Second Harvest, and the top ability on Lithoform Engine are all great options.

I personally run Peri Brown as my partner, but it's the same colors and overall strategy so feel free to check out my list for ideas (and rule 111.12). Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Dopplegangbangers - Historic Flash Convoke Copies

Nunu312 on Calling All Doctors!

7 months ago

While I might like to suggest Maskwood Nexus... I don't actually think it helps you considering the lack of non-doctor creatures. It may still be useful though for pushing you over the line to reach 13.

Three Tree City is a card that might be good though.

K-9, Mark I is really good. Your board state is very important to you so forcing people to pay just a little extra to interfere with it might help you edge out a game. But at the same time, several of the doctors have to attack to activate their abilities and this will help them not die when the do so. Psychic Paper and can also do something rather similar, but might also get you that extra doctor you need. Brotherhood Regalia is another similar card.

I like where you're going with Glasspool Mimic  ^Flip, but it wont bypass legendary. Instead Sakashima the Impostor and Sakashima of a Thousand Faces can both help get around this. Even if they aren't also land.

Similarly Mirror Box is good... but doesn't synergise with what you're doing as you don't have many duplicators for it to work with. I feel like you were going a bit more for Helm of the Host?

All in all though, these are just minor tweaks, the question is what part of the game does this deck operate around? Many of the doctors are spread over a lot of the game, which leads to them being quite unfocused. But I feel you are bringing this towards being a very upkeep centric deck? The question is how to maximise that. It will help Gallifrey Stands go off, but will also help your suspended cards and other triggered effects.

Lithoform Engine could help you in several ways, duplicating doctors, but also duplicating the trigger effect of Gallifrey Stands. While not quite as useful, Annie Joins Up will also double the triggers on your doctors. Roaming Throne is also a trigger doubler... though it's a little dull because it's in every bloody deck now.

Paradox Haze similarly gets you that extra upkeep, but it falls into the problem that a lot of such things do... One extra upkeep per turn is good, but a turn is a long time. While it may be the best option, a way to get creatures into play might be a better slot in your deck?

But there is also another two problems all decks have, mana and getting the right cards. Firstly, mana. You have a lot of expensive cards and you want to be able to cast all of them. Lotus Petal is good... but I don't see it being better than a normal mana rock as you have no ability to recurse it for free. Herald's Horn would probably be better as it can remove about 25% off the cost of all your important cards, and lets you take a peek for them. Leyline of the Guildpact can help with mana fixing, though wont actually set you ahead, as would Three Tree Mascot (which also counts as a doctor). Patchwork Banner is a newer mana rock that helps buff your guys a little. Mirari's Wake is also a solid mana doubler, if a little expensive.

Kinnan, Bonder ProdigyGC is also very cheap and solid, though works better if you have more mana rocks.

You've got a bit of recursion from The Eighth Doctor, which is more likely to turn up due to your commander, but that means that you can take advantage of the search lands. It would require changing out a lot of the land you do have, but if you use the typed dual lands like Canopy Vista or Godless Shrine (because you may need 1 mana more than 2 life), you can search for them and then recurse the search land like Flooded Strand (which could search for any dual land as long as it's part plains or part island). If you want to find what land works like this it's best to google mtg land or some such, there are whole websites dedicated to it. Considering you're running 5 colours, Bloom Tender and Faeburrow Elder can also help supercharge your mana.

As for getting cards, I feel like you've got a decent search to get the doctors, but you are a little lacking in turn to turn draw. This often means you'll end up sitting in a game with only one card to play a turn and that's not fun. The One RingGC is another groan worthy staple for how good it is (and therefore in everything), but only really relevant if you're running proxies. Collector's Vault is something I'm fond of, while it wont give you card advantage, it's cheap and you don't really mind discarding doctors anyway. Sylvan Library is also insanely powerful.

A lot of the search you do use is really expensive as well. Conflux and Diabolic Revelation are good... but they each cost a huge amount of mana, after which you still have to actually cast the cards. These are things that might help you on turn 10+ without a lot of acceleration. Instead something to get your creatures directly onto the battlefield like Victimize or possibly Pyre of Heroes.

Anyway, that's enough from me for now. Remember, look for cards that get you to your win conditions. Omniscience is great, but only if you can cast it AND if you've got the cards to play AND they are cards that lead you to victory. Perhaps 1 mana per turn or 2 cards might have been more useful.

Last_Laugh on Triple Commanders

7 months ago

Hey, I like the idea but there's a lot going on here that doesn't actually work.

First and foremost, Clara Oswald doesn't work with The Sixth Doctor. He says he triggers only once per turn so "triggers an additional time" effects like Clara/Roaming Throne won't do anything. I personally run Peri Brown with the Doctor so I'm not much help on an alternate companion that'll get you access to black.

Second is your Doubling effects don't work with The Sixth Doctor. Tokens that are the result of copying a permanent spell aren't "created" and won't trigger anything like Adrix & Nev, Parallel Lives, etc. to double your tokens. It's rule 111.12 if you feel like looking (or check my deck's description, link below).

You're after effects that COPY his trigger, copy the spell he's copying, and/or effects that copy his tokens after the fact (i.e. Lithoform Engine (top ability), Errant, Street Artist/Twinning Staff, and City of Death).

I know only 2/3 colors match, but feel free to check out my list for ideas. Upvotes on any of my decks are appreciated. Dopplegangbangers - Historic Flash Convoke Copies