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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Commander: Rule 0||Legal|
, : Copy target activated or triggered ability you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
, : Copy target instant or sorcery spell you control. You may choose new targets for the copy.
, : Copy target permanent spell you control. (This copy becomes a token.)
4 weeks ago
It is funny I just got this idea for this deck and I find yours.
However you asked for suggestions so I got some (assuming you haven't made these changes already)
It's like you said, using Zur's ability to grab the needed snow permanents could take awhile so let's copy his triggers with cards like Strionic Resonator and Lithoform Engine. Also we need to protect ourselves so a card like Solitary Confinement can do that. We won't be needing to draw too many cards considering Zur can just cheat stuff out for us.
Other than that I recommend auras that we can search for to protect marit lage once we get her out. Also a neat trick you can do is add the land Thespian Stage so you can make it become a copy of dark depths. It won't have qny counters so it will instantly turn into marit lage!
1 month ago
Hey man I really like the idea of this deck. Im still new to EDH myself so don't have a lot of suggestions but was wondering if Lithoform Engine would have a place here.
Do you need advice on the manabase or just need to list the cards?
2 months ago
So there's a competitive combo version of Jeleva and then there is fun Jeleva. I'm going to make suggestions based off what I think of as being more leaning towards the fun. The general idea I have in my head is to get some high cost spells exiled and cast them for free off her trigger. I haven't played much spellslinger pretty much ever but here's what I dug up. Not sure what your budget is though.
I'd also get some more protection for Jeleva. As each time she dies and is cast again you'll lose access to everything previously exiled. Not the worst thing but it can be nice to hit a few of the spells before having to recast her. Lightning Greaves, Whispersilk Cloak, Clout of the Dominus.
Do you have a clear vision of how the deck wins? Regardless the deck looks fun!
2 months ago
I think Spelltwine doesn't work with your commander, because you are copying the cards and casting them instead of copying the spell. If that's right than Mizzix's Mastery and Arcane Bombardment also wouldn't work, sadly. Maybe they are good enough to keep anyway? Not sure. Cards with the Cipher mechanic are also so close to working but I don't think they do. This is actually kind of hard to brew around! Ugh, God-Eternal Kefnet wouldn't work either, ew.
Immolating Gyre and Volcanic Vision are really good boardwipes in a spells-y deck... as is Cyclonic Rift, which you definitely should still run. In fact, all the overload spells are pretty sweet here, since they only target things you don't control, so if you copy them opponent's can't even pay the 4 life to hit one of your things. Makes Vandalblast and friends possibly worth it.
It will be interesting to see if Lithoform Engine or Pyromancer's Goggles will be good enough here (I like Primal Amulet Flip). Maybe more spells that copy spells are better than these chunkier repeatable ones? Things like Galvanic Iteration or Reiterate if you like the buyback better. Or Increasing Vengeance for the beefier flashback. Hell, if its politics Bonus Round could be really fun. Chef's Kiss is a newer one that I forgot about
Maybe this is the kind of deck where Thrilling Encore shines?
Is Stunning Reversal here to try and copy and save other people with?? Seems like it may not be good enough when you have access to blue for card draw/protection anyway.
I wish, as I always do, that Cloven Casting wasn't soooo bad. Or like, any of the cards with Replicate. Those would be so perfect. Maybe Shattering Spree is good enough but I think it isn't. Ugh, that makes me think about how you're definitely supposed to play storm cards in this deck. Are there any storm cards that aren't miserable? Mind's Desire maybe...
Is Charmbreaker Devils good enough?
Wild Ricochet is an oldie but maybe enough of a goodie here with the copying theme?
Harmonic Prodigy since your commander is a wizard isn't a terrible idea...
Humble Defector might be too cute.
Cruel Ultimatum is the ultimate chunky spell and you're even in the right colors for it!
Also Chaos Warp is still good enough as universal instant speed removal and kind of fun/politics-y as well
2 months ago
Crystal Shard actually can't be used with this commander because it has a blue mana symbol on it. Though if you have a consistent playgroup they may allow it. Just talk with them about it. I use some of the following for ETB engines in my Kardur deck.
2 months ago
See rule 10 here. https://mtgcommander.net/index.php/rules/
In commander specifically the assumption most random people will have when building decks based on the rules is that Wish effects like that just don't work.
So with Mastermind's Acquisition, the first effect works, the second doesn't.
Lithoform Engine, Rings of Brighthearth, and Yarok, the Desecrated can all be used to abuse things with Proliferate. With all those extra loyalty counters you'll be rolling in, the The Chain Veil seems like it belongs in here too. Especially since it gives all your walkers an extra activation, not just one.
Some other stuff to replace your wishes with would be Search for Glory, and Primevals' Glorious Rebirth. Those not only work for Vorinclex, but they will also get most of your Planeswalkers, Helm of the Host, and Lithoform Engine.
Also, Fist of Suns seems like a great combo with that commander.
2 months ago
and i dont have a Staff of Domination and im not buying singles, my goal isn't to go infinite but to brainfuck myself what i can squeeze out of the cards, that i do have
I also thought about if i could do something with doubled Manifold Key from Osgir and Lithoform Engine but, that doesnt work either, seems like i cant go infinite with the cards that i have without Dross Scorpion
2 months ago
You would also have a tapped Lithoform Engine and run into the same problem as before on the next iteration. If you had 2 things that produced 4 mana you could use Staff of Domination to fuel the welder untaps. At that point though it would just be less complicated to use one of the 2 card infinite mana combos and then do your welder loops rather than finding two things to tap for 4.