Creature — Human Wizard
When Treasure Mage enters the battlefield, you may search your library for an artifact card with converted mana cost 6 or greater, reveal that card, and put it into your hand. If you do, shuffle your library.
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Treasure Mage Discussion
2 weeks ago
Hey I'm coming over from reddit.
I think first of all, you have some decent ramp and card draw, but I might replace Abzan Beastmaster and Triumph of Ferocity for some other green creature card draw, like Primordial Sage or Soul of the Harvest. Maybe replace Utopia Sprawl with Sakura-Tribe Elder, it's a creature so it has better synergy with your deck, also it's easier to get the extra mana. Archwing Dragon is not the best mana dump by any means and I would replace it with... I dunno there's a lot of really great goodstuff cards at 4 mana, like Rashmi, Eternities Crafter. The "buff my creature" cards are not great, like Boon Satyr or Rancor, as there are much better Anthems, like Beastmaster Ascension.Frost Walker is not a good edh card. At two mana there's Duskwatch Recruiter Flip. Orcish Lumberjack is sketch, maybe Birds of Paradise. Maybe replace the Trinket Mage and Treasure Mage with Fierce Empath or some sick Haste enablers like Fires of Yavimaya or Hammer of Purphoros. Also a couple more lands couldn't hurt, maybe closer to 36-38. Fire/Ice has a low power for edh, as is lightning bolt. I'm also not the biggest fan of prophetic bolt. Some good removal includes Beast Within and Krosan Grip. I'm also not a fan of Skullclamp in a deck not focused around your own creatures dying. Maybe Mystic Remora or Rhystic Study for cheap card draw. A fun card I like in general is Zendikar Resurgent but it's 7 mana, and usually the turn you drop it, it does nothing. So if you can find a spot in your deck to put it go ahead, but it's low priority.
2 weeks ago
Many thanks for your feedback, greatdevourer! Here's what I've changed:
I swapped the Treasure Mage for the Trinket Mage, as suggested. I ended up adding the Paradox Haze, because it rapidly became my most powerful tool in my playtesting. I likely will swap some of my tutors out, and Arcanis the Omnipotent is definitely going in. The thing is, much of my local meta is based on disrupting my opponents turn. Perhaps I overcompensated with the counterspells! On the other hand, I enjoy messing with my opponents and causing chaos for everyone. Do you have any tips for that?
Thanks again for your comment!
2 weeks ago
What do you want this deck to do? You seem to have too many different ideas going on in this deck. People might be able to give you better advice if you had a clearer vision of what you want this deck to accomplish and how you want to get there.
Having said that, I can already see some ways to make this better. Let's start by looking at the changes that seem most obvious to me. Let me start with bringing up the idea that card draw is always better than tutoring. If I'm drawing 2 or 3 cards a turn, then I have more card advantage than doing a 1-for-1 trade of a tutor for something else. Look at replacing some of the tutor cards: Mystical Tutor, Muddle the Mixture, Intuition, Long-Term Plans, Personal Tutor, Merchant Scroll. Consider replacing half of those tutors with card draw engines. Maybe Arcanis the Omnipotent?
Drop the Treasure Mage, the only target you have in the mainboard is the Ward of Bones. Use Trinket Mage instead. AEther Barrier, Counterbalance, War's Toll don't really seem to help with much of any strategy in this deck. You should consider addming more creatures to make the Sneak Attack more effecitve. The Blood Moon is a special case. It hurts you as much or possible more than it hurts your opponents. But the good news is that we can take adavantage of that easily. Add a Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle. Consider adding an Archaeomancer and/or Izzet Chronarch to reuse the instants and sorceries.
Also, look at cutting Eternal Dominion. I think that card just hurts you too much. Look at the interaction of these 2 rules:
Epic (For the rest of the game, you can't cast spells. At the beginning of each of your upkeeps, copy this spell except for its epic ability. You may choose a new target for the copy.)
Suspend (At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter from that card. When the last is removed, cast it without paying its mana cost. If it's a creature, it has haste.)
The Epic ability would prevent you from casting the suspended cards as well as anything in your hand or that you might draw for the rest of the game. Not good.
As for your maybe board, don't use Paradox Haze. I know why you considered it, but I'm pretty sure it will end up biting you more often than helping. Instead of Reminisce look at Elixir of Immortality. You can search it up with the Trinket Mage and you get 5 life out if it. I pretty much auto-include one in every Commander deck I build. I've never regretted play one.
Let me know what you think of these suggestions and maybe we can continue the discussion and make the deck more fun for you to play. As always, temper these suggestions with your collection and your budget. Feel free to take a look at my decks and let me know what you think.
3 weeks ago
Thanks flapjackwars for the suggestions. Let's discuss the ideas. Let me start by saying that this deck was built for a multi-player chaos environment. Speed isn't so much of a concern in my usual meta game. This deck was built more for endurance. At least that was the idea I was trying for.
Scrap Trawler and Pia's Revolution are in the deck to work in situation where someone has played Declaration of Naught naming my Commander. Yep, that has happened. So, in my view, I have 3 cards in my deck that recur artifacts for me instead of just one.
I've played Extruder in an artifact based deck before. It's ok. I thought about it for this deck. I guess I'm still on the fence about this one. I have the Bosh, Iron Golem, Krark-Clan Ironworks, Viscera Seer, Throne of Geth, and Trading Post for sacrifice outlets. Not sure if that is enough or the route I want to go with this deck. Ashnod's Altar is a good choice that I'm going swap out the Ironworks for. It does provide a wider range of sacrifice options.
In the maybe board I had before I posted this deck, I had the some of the cards you mentioned.
I cut the Time Sieve, which is a great card, because I felt that it painted too much of a target on me in table politics. It may still end up in the deck at some point. Not sure on this one. Tough choice for now. I'll probably have to play the deck some more to really get a feel for it.
I cut the Trinket Mage, Trophy Mage, and Treasure Mage because I didn't want this deck to really be about tutoring. Another reason I cut the tutor creatures was that I felt that they didn't syngerize with the +1 counters theme. I can't use them as Modular targets. They don't help as much once they are on the field except as blockers. And I can't recur them like I can with the other artifacts. Thopter Engineer suffers from some of the same problems. I like the 'artifacts gain haste' aspect, but I have Exava, Rakdos Blood Witch to provide haste. Exava gets seen by Marchesa where the Engineer does not. Pia and Kiran Nalaar, and Pia Nalaar are good cards but I just felt that they didn't syngerize as well as some of my other choices. They have the same sort of down sides that the tutor creatures do.
I didn't use the Sol Ring because I didn't think that I needed that kind of mana acceleration. Also, once I cut the Trinket Mage I didn't have a way of tutoring for it early enough in the game for it to be useful.
Marionette Master felt to mana costly for what it gave me when i first read it. Reading it again, it might fit. I'll have to think about that one for a while.
Treasure Keeper, Phyrexian Metamorph are really good cards that I overlooked. I am swapping the Cogwork Assembler for Phyrexian Metamorph based on your suggestions since it cost too much mana to make the copies with the Assembler. The Treasure Keeper is another card I'll need to think about for a bit. I like the free cast aspect. I'm not so fond of the reveal my deck to opponents aspect. Tough call.
I need to go through the new cards in Amonkhet to see what can fit into my EDH/Commander decks.
3 weeks ago
Pia's Revolution is a non-bo with Marchesa's trigger, since anyone can send the modular card back into your hand at no cost, and just having them return to the battlefield is probably better.
Treasure Mage can help you search for any of your big game enders. Also, Muddle the Mixture and Drift of Phantasms can help dig for key robots or sac outlets.
Very small critique, but because your commander is 4 CMC and wants to attack as soon as possible to protect herself, and you have a relatively low colored mana symbol count in the majority of your spells, you may want to trim the 3 CMC colored mana rocks like Obelisk of Grixis, Darksteel Ingot, and Commander's Sphere, for 2 CMC colorless rocks, like Mind Stone, Thought Vessel, or the Mana myrs (Silver Myr, Leaden Myr, and Iron Myr). This can also help alleviate the issues of your low land count in the early game.
Marchesa also facilitates some amazing draw options such as River Kelpie and Mulldrifter, who you can recur by adding a +1/+1 counter with say Unspeakable Symbol in response to the evoke trigger.
I don't know your meta, but single target removal like Battle at the Bridge and Devil's Play will be worse than a wrath like Blasphemous Act or Toxic Deluge over the long term.
1 month ago
Yeah I could have added on to that a bit, I'm getting 2x Wurmcoil Engines, a playset of Remands, a 1x Sundering Titan, and 1x Solemn Simulacrum with this as well. All of that is for a modern deck I'm building instead of infect which I'm postponing finishing for now to instead build something cheaper.
But we follow prices of the store Face to Face Games, not sure if you have heard of them however as they are a Canadian store. Wurmcoil Engines for example are about $19-20 CAD/ US $14. While the NM slivers go for about $50 CAD / $36-37 US, and i'm buying him the two chalices for $170 CAD / $125 US for those 10 cards in return.
I was using about $110 Cad/ $80 US store credit I had to pay towards this anyways from a bunch of standard stuff like a foil Chandra, Torch of Defiance, 3 Spirebluff Canals, a Craterhoof Behemoth, etc which was all stuff I was relatively not using so i'm not too sad too see them go to actually pay less of this myself.
Going between these prices all must seem a little confusing sorry about that, and while I didn't still didn't even list everything mentioned the trade is one I'm fine with as I was paying for a good chunk of it with store credit. But thank you for your concern anyways in suggesting the trade might not have been in my favour.
I was building Mono Blue Tron anyways if you have heard of the deck for modern, if your not aware it feature's Urza's Tower, Urza's Power Plant, and Urza's Mine along with Expedition Map to produce tons of mana quickly to play threats like Wurmcoil Engine and Ugin, the Spirit Dragon. It features Treasure Mage which can find a variety of artifact cards like a 1x Platinum Angel, a Sundering Titan the 2x wurmcoils, and Mindslaver which you can use alongside Academy Ruins for some fun for you anyways. Then in the early turns you have Remand, Condescend, Spatial Contortion among other things to slow your opponent down and of course preventing them from killing you before you can play your threats.
I pretty much go to fnm each week for every format, I have a deck for standard, 2 decks for commander, this deck I'm working on for modern as well as my rather budget infect (The friend I mentioned after this trade is going to let me borrow the remainder of what I need for this Mono Blue tron deck at fnms until I either buy/trade for it or acquire my own pieces). Still need an Academy Ruins, a playset of the urza lands (have 1 tower though) and a Oblivion Stone.I as well have even a deck even for pauper ( Slivers featuring playsets of Muscle Sliver, Sinew Sliver, and Predatory Sliver and others bolstered by things like Rancor and Armadillo Cloak it's a lot of fun and is cheap :) ).
1 month ago
Cards I would cut/replacement:
For Win conditions:
Really up to you tbh. But i think the following options synergize well with your deck.
1) Artifact Win Cons:
Lattice + Forge + Nevi disk. (or really any destroy all artifact)
- If this is the route your pursue. Invest is artifact tutors like Fabricate, Treasure Mage, Arcum Dagsson, etc...
2) Bounce win con
This one is a bit tricky, but can be done.
This usually revolves on getting ahead with mana rocks or using trickery.
3) Cloning / stealing wincons / game ending spells
4) Entering the infinte.
Any win con that works with Enter the Infinite.
Infinite mana or omniscience is a play your deck
or even just a Psychosis Crawler.
- You might have to make more room for these win conditions. but it at least provides you with options assuming that your opponents don't have much to work with