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- Can you win with 4 Biovisionary out and no library?
- Does Thragtusk + Infinite Reflection + Gigantiform work?
- If copies are exiled at beginning of end step, does Biovisionarys static still trigger?
- Could I use rite of replication in conjunction with biovisionary to immediately win?
- Will reanimating Biovisionary + clones with Wake the Dead win the game?
Creature — Human Wizard
At the beginning of the end step, if you control four or more creatures named Biovisionary, you win the game.
1 week ago
Congratulations for your deck! I like the idea of cloning stuff, and I am still trying to find a build that works. If I can give you a hint, prefer cards that can clone any creature on the field over the cards that can only clone your creatures (everyone should have a Consecrated Sphinx , right? Not only your opponent).
I don't feel like would help you much with cloning. The best (and maybe only) white card that refers to cloning is Mirrorweave .
If you look at https://edhrec.com/themes/clones, you will see that almost all clone effects are blue: Clone , Vizier of Many Faces , Gigantoplasm , Vesuvan Shapeshifter , Body Double , Mirror Image , Supplant Form , Blatant Thievery , Clone Legion , Mirror Match . If you want to copy spells aswell, Insidious Will , Swarm Intelligence and Spelltwine are there for you.
gives you Evil Twin and all black tutors and removal.
gives you Altered Ego , Progenitor Mimic , Spitting Image and all of green ramp and removal. For me, it is the best color to splash on a blue clone deck, because it also allows the Biovisionary alternative win-condition.
As long as commander suggestions are concerned, here are some ideas:
Riku of Two Reflections is the go-to clone commander. He has all the relevant colors for cloning (), but he is crazy expensive at 20 dollars, so it might be good to consider other options:
You can have Keiga, the Tide Star as your commander. This way, you can clone him and let the copy Keiga die to the legend rule. When the Keiga copy dies, you can steal an opponent's creature, while still having the original Keiga.
You can have Brudiclad, Telchor Engineer as your commander. He is a win condition by himself, giving tokens haste and making all of them bigger. Red gives you a lot of token generators: Brass's Bounty , Flameshadow Conjuring , Storm the Vault Flip among others. Imagine creating a token copy of a Kokusho, the Evening Star , then turn all your tokens into Kokusho, then sacrificing all them to the legend rule, then draining all your oponents for lethal. Great value!
You can have Tatyova, Benthic Druid as your commander. She doesn't refer to a clone strategy, but she gives a lot of card draw by just playing lands (your hand will always be filled). You can clone Rampaging Baloths and Avenger of Zendikar for a massive win. Also, you have access to all the blue-green clones and the Biovisionary + Rite of Replication combo.
If you want to use altogether, you might consider Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder or Kynaios and Tiro of Meletis . Yidris allows you to use Evil Twin and all the black removal. Yidris also increases the value you get from playing spells by cascading into other spells. // K&T, on the other hand, gives you card advantage and makes you less threatening while you build your board. White also gives you access to great boardwipes ( Austere Command ).
All in all, good luck in your deckbuilding and have fun!
1 week ago
1 month ago
Scion_of_Darkness yeah,tried those, Infinite Reflection is to expensive for my tastes and doesn't work the way my deck is now, having only 6 non-token creatures, 4 of which being the Biovisionary As for the Rite of Replication I have one but only one and since I'm already playing a full playset of Cackling Counterpart I'd say I'm fine, but we'll see where this goes, this is already the fifth or sixth iteration of this deck and who knows, it might change some more over the time
1 month ago
Infinite Reflection and Rite of Replication are the cards I play in my Biovisionary deck, along with Clone and Clone-like effects. So even if you haven't copied the Biovisionary yet, you can still copy the best creatures on the board.
1 month ago
Great looking deck! We had never heard of Biovisionary before; what a nasty card that can be in a deck like this :)
We have been greatly enjoying a Riku deck of our own (still needs to be posted on tappedout), and here are some of the cards that have been instrumental to its success:
- Bloom Tender ; bit of an expensive card, but such an incredible mana dork. Even more so when you can copy it with Riku or another copy/clone spell.
- Clever Impersonator ; this card can be insanely insane for many reasons in this deck. Think about this: have it enter the BF as a copy of Primal Vigor (or Doubling Season ) and then activate Riku to create a token of it, allowing you to put down another PV (or DS).
- Deadeye Navigator ; this card is just so good with Riku on the field. Keep making tokens of your favourite creature (aside from profiting from whatever ETB effects this creature might provide).
Hope this helps you. Have great fun tweaking and playing this!
Mrs and Mr NV_1980
1 month ago
Musts: Fathom Mage Gyre Sage Master Biomancer Everflowing Chalice Herald of Secret Streams - Who is becoming a pretty popular card across formats fyi Managorger Hydra Inexorable Tide Simic Manipulator
Sideboard Cards you should Maindeck: Zendikar Resurgent Verdurous Gearhulk Soul of the Harvest Song of Freyalise Kodama's Reach Farseek Experiment One Everflowing Chalice Deepglow Skate Cultivate Chasm Skulker Biogenic Ooze Beast Whisperer
2 months ago
this is great, I'm so gonna make one of these, just with more clones and less of other stuff, so you are literally playing their deck with your cards, ecept for Stonehoof Chieftain which is a game ender once you have copied some huge creatures. by the way, this deck needs Alchemist's Refuge , you can replace a basic mountain for it, since the deck needs very little red. Alchemist's Refuge is a budget Vedalken Orrery which lets you cast Rite of Replication on the player's endstep right before your turn on your Biovisionary , winning you the game right there.
2 months ago
SuspectedSinner - Neither of those really help me. It's rare that I would want to copy my own things, and I'm not really making tokens.
Xudel - I stick pretty hard to the creature rules here - Clone, Steal, Buff, and Biovisionary lol. Seeing as that is one of many oddball wincons, I can't take it out. Ever. I'm still making edits here and there, but the overall flavor is letting people play their things so I can copy and buff. As far as Worst Fears goes, it's a high CMC, so my playgroup doesn't get mad when I play it late game.
I always welcome suggestions though so feel free to send more!
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