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Artifact Creature — Dragon
: Steel Hellkite gets +1/+0 until end of turn.
: Destroy each nonland permanent with converted mana cost X whose controller was dealt combat damage by Steel Hellkite this turn. Activate this ability only once each turn.
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Steel Hellkite Discussion
3 hours ago
Pathbreaker Ibex seems cool. I'll put him in the maybeboard. Indrik Stomphowler and Conclave Naturalists cost too much for what they do. Selvala, Heart of the Wilds seems cool too, will put in maybeboard. There aren't enough targets for Woodland Bellower. Fierce Empath has some potential, so maybeboard. Ruric Thar, the Unbowed doesn't do enough to justify his CMC, same with Gruul Ragebeast and Whisperwood Elemental. Very limited counterspells in meta (shocking, right?) so no need for Spellbreaker Behemoth.
Cyclops Gladiator is nice removal, but 3 red in a primarily green deck is a stretch. Urabrask the Hidden is a great card (I just traded it away :/) and is MUST ADD. Thank you.Stonehoof Chieftain is something to consider, I will need to think about our stonehoofed friend. Fling is funny, but not the best fit IMO.Avatar of Slaughter is SO FUNNY! I am getting this for sure! The 2 worms are blehSteel Hellkite was definitely overlooked. I need to add it in for sure.
Heroes' Bane is a great replacement, I will make the switch. I like Primal hunter over Caller of beasts because it's cheaper, provides blockers and most importantly, card draw. Nylea, God of the Hunt costs 4 for a static trample, possible creature and a weak boost. Although I see it's potential use, I will need to think about it.Dragon Throne of Tarkir I would rather use the creature I'm equipping to attack
Zendikar Resurgent seems great, I will add it inSignal the Clans is a great card, but wouldn't it make more sense to get rid of rampant growth before nature's lore?Bower Passage seems interesting but is too limited.
I thought of that combo before and it seems hilarious as hell, but not worth running as each piece is weak on it's own. Blightsteel Colossus is great but I'm not a huge fan of infect. I don't mind if someone runs it, but I just don't like it. The Kiki combo is cool and I LOVE combos, but this is the 1 deck I'm trying to make without an inherent "insta win" because I would just tooth and nail those creatures each time. The only infinite combo I have in the deck cannot be tutored for so if it goes off, then it's more "fair" according to my LGS. Summoning Trap is limited but possibly a sideboard card.
Do you guys know what is a good CMC range for this kind of deck? I've always tried to make the CMC of my EDH decks anywhere between 2.8 and 3.4. I know the beaters in the deck skew the AVG CMC towards the higher end, but I am unsure as to what range i should try to fall into.
21 hours ago
Sorry to comment again so soon, but there's a few cards I forgot to list above.
Stonehoof Chieftain is a big beater that can't be beat by most removal, or any combat damage. Bit on the pricey side mana-wise, but he'll do you good when he finally reaches the battlefield.
Fling is fun if you just need to end out a game and you can't get past their blockers. Or if you need emergency removal.
Avatar of Slaughter needs no description. You know why you'd want him in this deck.
Elderscale Wurm is both a good utility creature, and a decent beater. Give it a go if you want something weird.
Panglacial Wurm is a joke. At least it's got a good punch line ba dum tiss
Finally, Steel Hellkite is fantastic at clearing out enemy tokens/high threat targets as long as you have the mana for it's ability.
Sorry for the long posts, but there are a lot of really strong creatures for a deck like this, and I'm hoping you seriously consider including some (if not most) of them.
1 day ago
I see Karametra being great at pumping out a lot of little dudes instead of big dudes, looks like you're trying to mimic Xenagos play.
I would consider :
- Rude Awakening
- Bow of Nylea
- Overwhelming Stampede
- Fierce Empath
- Craterhoof Behemoth
- Ondu Giant
And remove :
- Steel Hellkite (nonbo)
- Wurmcoil Engine (nonbo)
- Serra Avatar (not really a lifegain deck)
- Soul's Majesty
- Momentous Fall
- Rishkar's Expertise
- Genesis Wave (nonbo)
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3 days ago
Here's some suggestions after looking over your deck. Obviously, these suggestion need to be adjusted based on your budget and/or collection.
Depending on the metagame for your play group or local store, I would recommend getting rid of the one shots which only help you in the early game. During the later portions of a long or group game, those cards are much less helpful.
Lotus Petal, Index, Ponder, Gitaxian Probe, and Serum Visions all fall into this category.
Another problem I see is you have Heartstone and Show and Tell which help your opponents as much or more than they help you.
Future Sight and Magus of the Future are cute, but provide too much information to your opponents.
Spellbook is just a bad card. I know a lot of people like it because they want to hold onto more than 7 cards. But it's just bad.
Consider the following:
Are you playing Spellbook or Reliquary Tower because you are drawing a lot of cards each turn?
Or are you playing Spellbook to get avoid discarding cards at the end of turn?
If you are drawing that many cards per turn, why aren't you playing those cards?
If you're holding onto those cards from one turn to the next, is it because you don't have enough mana to cast them? Add more land.
If your waiting for specific cards, why hold onto cards you don't want to play? Why keep cards that might be useful?
I also think you are running too few lands. Artifact mana ramp is nice but doesn't replace basic lands. You should have about 34 to 38 lands in a Commander/EDH deck.
Stuffy Doll is cute, but it can only damage a single opponent. You have to bounce it and recast it or flicker it to choose another opponent.
The Pariah's Shield is cute but there is better equipment for Stuffy. I've always liked Nemesis Mask with Stuffy Doll. People always forget that Stuffy does NOT have defender.
Loxodon Warhammer is another good equipment that would fit into this deck and would work with any creature on the field.
To sum up:
-1 Lotus Petal, too many other mana ramp cards
-1 Vedalken Engineer, too many other mana ramp cards
-1 Index, weak late game
-1 Ponder, weak late game
-1 Gitaxian Probe, weak late game
-1 Serum Visions, weak late game
-1 Heartstone, helps opponents too much
-1 Future Sight, helps opponents too much
-1 Magus of the Future, helps opponents too much
-1 Spellbook, just a bad card that keeps people from playing better.
+5 Island+1 Urza's Tower, to complete the set.
+1 Nemesis Mask, because Lure on a Stuffy Doll is awesome.
+1 Loxodon Warhammer, life gan and trample
+1 Myr Enforcer, could be free to cast but still allow you to scry 7 with Muzzio.
+1 Steel Hellkite, a great way to swing the game
Here are some other ideas that might also work, in no particular order: Sharding Sphinx for the tokens, Spire Golem cast for free with CMC 6, or Kuldotha Forgemaster for the tutoring and CMC 5.
Let me know what you think.
6 days ago
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1 week ago
The thing with Tron is that you generally want to be casting big threats without relying too heavily on coloured mana lands. Splitting resources into getting both lands that produce coloured mana and a lot of colourless mana is never optimal. You're gonna have time casting your big guys like Prime Speaker Zegana and Overbeing of Myth if your lands tap for colourless.
So, the most optimal way for a Tron deck to get coloured mana is through artifacts. These are spells to cast with your Urza lands early in the game to get a foothold while devoting all your land searching to the colourless Tron lands. Spells like Chromatic Sphere, and possibly Chromatic Star should you be willing to shell out $20 for the set allow for quick, cheap fixing and what's better is that they replace themselves in your hand. As for more permanent fixing, Prophetic Prism is a great card to have, as it replaces itself and one more mana allows it to stick around. Mana Cylix, Prismatic Lens, and Simic Signet are other good fixing options.
Another benefit to having mostly artifacts in Green Tron is that you can run Ancient Stirrings, but at $5 a pop (another $20 for the set) it's far from budget. Sylvan Scrying is a really good fixing option in the realm of Sorceries, as you can grab any land you want.
Now you need some threats. Birthing Hulk is a great regenerating threat that gives you blockers to defend yourself while he gets in. Deepfathom Skulker can be a great way to grab some more cards and make your other threats sure to get in some damage. Steel Hellkite can really be devastating to our opponent, especially if they play aggro and fail to stabilize in time.
1 week ago
You need the artifacts to ramp and keep up.
Porcelain Legionnaire he doesn't do anything for you in this list
Chief Engineer: you aren't playing enough artifcats
Puresteel Paladin: again, not enough to utilize him
Stonehewer Giant: ditto
Trinket Mage: ditto
Steel Hellkite: you have better options in what I gave you
Wall of Denial: eh.
Skullclamp: I don't even know if this is legal, keep it if you add elspeth and other stuff that will allow you to utilize it
Cloudshift: kind of meh
Survival Cache: not as good
These are the one's staring me in the face