- 1x Apprentice Necromancer
- 1x Disciple of Bolas
- 1x Dread
- 1x Duplicant
- 1x Eternal Witness
- 1x Extractor Demon
- 1x Fauna Shaman
- 1x Forgotten Creation
- 1x Golgari Grave-Troll
- 1x Golgari Thug
- 1x Greenwarden of Murasa
- 1x Haunted Dead
- 1x Hedron Crab
- 1x Hell's Caretaker
- 1x Hermit Druid
- 1x Krosan Restorer
- 1x Laboratory Maniac
- 1x Magus of the Will
- 1x Mirror-Mad Phantasm
- 1x Nyx Weaver
- 1x Peregrine Drake
- 1x Phenax, God of Deception
- 1x Profaner of the Dead
- 1x Sakura-Tribe Elder
- 1x Selhoff Occultist
- 1x Sewer Nemesis
- 1x Shambling Shell
- 1x Sheoldred, Whispering One
- 1x Sire of Stagnation
- 1x Skullwinder
- 1x Stinkweed Imp
- 1x The Gitrog Monster
- 1x Wood Elves
- 1x Ash Barrens
- 1x Bloodstained Mire
- 1x Bojuka Bog
- 1x Breeding Pool
- 1x Buried Ruin
- 1x Cephalid Coliseum
- 1x City of Brass
- 1x Command Tower
- 1x Dimir Aqueduct
- 1x Evolving Wilds
- 1x Flooded Strand
- 1x Forbidden Orchard
- 2x Forest
- 1x Golgari Rot Farm
- 1x Grand Coliseum
- 2x Island
- 1x Llanowar Wastes
- 1x Mana Confluence
- 1x Opulent Palace
- 1x Overgrown Tomb
- 1x Polluted Delta
- 1x Simic Growth Chamber
- 1x Strip Mine
- 2x Swamp
- 1x Terramorphic Expanse
- 1x Underground River
- 1x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
- 1x Vivid Creek
- 1x Vivid Grove
- 1x Vivid Marsh
- 1x Watery Grave
- 1x Windswept Heath
- 1x Wooded Foothills
- 1x Yavimaya Coast
- 1x Altar of Dementia
- 1x Amulet of Vigor
- 1x Basalt Monolith
- 1x Crucible of Worlds
- 1x Mesmeric Orb
- 1x Sol Ring
- 1x Sword of Light and Shadow
- 1x Academy Ruins
- 1x Apprentice Necromancer
- 1x Bitter Ordeal
- 1x Buried Alive
- 1x Buried Ruin
- 1x Decaying Soil
- 1x Dictate of Erebos
- 1x Filth
- 1x Foster
- 1x Geralf's Masterpiece
- 1x Gnaw to the Bone
- 1x Great Whale
- 1x Increasing Ambition
- 1x Jarad's Orders
- 1x Kederekt Leviathan
- 1x Kokusho, the Evening Star
- 1x Lightning Greaves
- 1x Lord of Extinction
- 1x Meren of Clan Nel Toth
- 1x Nightmare Void
- 1x Oversold Cemetery
- 1x Palinchron
- 1x Pedantic Learning
- 1x Peregrine Drake
- 1x Platinum Emperion
- 1x Reanimate
- 1x Sheoldred, Whispering One
- 1x Sire of Stagnation
- 1x Sol Ring
- 1x Survival of the Fittest
- 1x The Gitrog Monster
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I like the list, I test piloted the budget version and might end up building this one. Why crucible of worlds out of curiousity? I see the fetch capability and the recursion of strip mine useful but most other lands don't seem too useful to have it included. Am I missing something?
November 10, 2016 6:22 a.m.
Two cards from Commander 2016 I find interesting for Vera ;)
Ancient Excavation card draw + discard what you need in the graveyard, but very situational (But also Landcycling if needed).
November 11, 2016 9:09 a.m.
Asiel_Theforgotten: It guarantees me a land drop every turn without any further investment of mana, and pulling Bojuka Bog from GY is much more helpful than you'd think. It's not used for anything beyond that, though.
I had a copy available (fount it in a box in my closet) so I decided I might as well use it since I had a deck for it :)
It will become more useful if I ever decide to add The Gitrog Monster back in, though.
Also, re:everyone - I FINALLY GOT AROUND TO UPDATING THIS LIST, YEAH.
How do the changes look? I modified a lot obviously, haha.
November 12, 2016 4:05 p.m.
Love the revisions! If you get more time would be nice to see the changes to the deck description. Thank you for the insight on the crucible. Looks like a total blast to pilot, I'll be sure to leave feedback when I get it set up!
November 13, 2016 6:52 p.m.
Here another self-mill option that I run:
I also like that Cephalid Illusionist gives me the option to trigger Sidisi, even if there is no save target player to attack.
November 14, 2016 9:01 a.m.
Second, a critique:Your T3 infinite combo is not an infinite combo, unless I am mistaken. + will mill you for your entire library, but because you have no shuffle back effect, it can only mill you a finite amount. Sidisi will only make a maximum of 37 zombies under this combo, which is not enough for an Altar of Dementia win. Unless I'm missing something, in which case, please clarify, since I would love to be wrong
Third, you mentioned having a Meren deck. Why is Meren not in here? Her value to a self-mill and a sac deck is disgusting and you're both, so why not toss her in?
November 14, 2016 10:22 p.m.
November 14, 2016 11:01 p.m.
I also haven't put Meren in here for because...I'm not sure to be honest. I had a Meren deck, which might explain it (didn't want to reuse her), but now that the deck's been taken apart...I'll definitely consider it, thanks!
Darkersun: I'll also consider adding that, thank you! :) Both cards are definitely useful alone.
Asiel_Theforgotten: I'm glad you like the deck! :)
November 15, 2016 1:11 a.m.
Maybe I ask about this already, but is Shambling Shell not one of the weaker Dredge cards?Is there a specific use that I overlooked?
How do you use Haunted Dead? I assume its there to help you discard a card if it would be more useful in the graveyard? Also as jump-blocker for flying creatures right? Or is there another interaction that I overlooked?
November 16, 2016 5:32 a.m.
If you're looking for protection from graveyard hate, I usually go with Orbs of Warding in non-white decks. It doesn't protect from effects that target specific cards but it covers you from Bojuka Bog, Identity Crisis, Rakdos Charm, and Tormod's Crypt effects. TO is telling me you've already considered Orbs of awarding so nvm I guess. Same for Bitter Ordeal and every other card I mentioned lol.
Why no Cabal Coffers? There are many cool combos in here, I grant you. It looks like a fun deck for you to play. Bitter Ordeal is a fun alternate wincon if you have an infinite sac loop like with + or Woodfall Primus. The former us the added bonus of reanimating all of your opponents creatures with haste if you've already heavily milled them and the latter wrecks all of their noncreature permanents.
December 2, 2016 10:34 a.m.
If you are really concerned about targeted graveyard removal consider running Ground Seal; it turns off a couple cards in your deck but would protect everything really well and your mass recursion or Yawg Will effects would still work. Grafdigger's Cage is similar but almost definitely too much of a nombo. There's nothing you can run to protect from Rest in Peace effects other than counterspells and Chalice of the Void on 2 if you know you are playing against RiP. But once again, nvm my suggestions as you apparently considered Ground Seal already.
December 2, 2016 11:02 a.m.
I honestly don't know too much about graveyard decks, and it seems orettt much perfect as it is right now... but seriously though awesome deck and the mana curve+mana base are both beautiful! +1 from me!
December 10, 2016 12:57 p.m.
Oops I said orettt instead of pretty... sorry about the delay I was in a rush when I posted and I guess I forgot.
December 10, 2016 12:59 p.m.
Haunted Dead is mostly there to dump Dread or reanimation targets into my graveyard when I need them out of my hand. It's one of the cheapest discard sources from my GY. But the flying blocker is very, very nice!
Incidentally, I've considered running Cabal Therapy so I can target myself. Thoughts? Lmao.
EternalBrewmaster: Orbs of Warding can be pretty sweet, agreed. It tended to be a little too situational in this deck, though, and non-creature slots are tight, so I ended up cutting it :( Ground Seal would neuter my deck, though, so I will have to pass on that one :(
ObamaIsIlluminatiOhYeah: Thanks! :) I'm glad you like the deck. Also, a very interesting username you have there, lol.
December 21, 2016 6:21 p.m.
I know what you mean about Ground Seal, I avoid it too, but it just sounded like you were playing in a really targeted meta and you can always destroy it yourself when you need to if you build that way. But yeah, it's probably not worth it. Everytime I haven't had a hexproof effect I've found myself pissed that I didn't because of a Bojuka Bog so I always run them in graveyard decks. Even when they aren't situationally relevant at least it gives you peace of mind. Not trying to convince you or anything, just working through my reasoning. I also don't build or play as competitively as you I think.
December 21, 2016 7:50 p.m.
@Daedalus19876 Thank you very much for explaining the tech behind does cards. Great insight, I will keep the cards in the deck :)
For new card ideas, what do you think about the new Gearhulks? Noxious Gearhulk seems pretty sweet, but takes the same slot as Duplicant and I think exile is more important than destroy + lifegain + Menace.Torrential Gearhulk is also nice but only get you instants. If it would get sorceries, that would be awesome.
December 22, 2016 5:54 a.m.
Darkersun: I was thinking about Verderous for a while (to buff my commander) but I decided to avoid it. Torrential would be awesome if it could hit sorceries, agreed :( I'm still considering it, though! And you're spot-on that Noxious just conflicts too much with Duplicant in the same slot.
December 27, 2016 8:21 p.m.
Some suggestions:Sheoldred, Whispering One Should be pretty easy to get it back from graveyard for little cost
December 27, 2016 9:50 p.m.
I'm not a fan of Liliana, the Last Hope, though. I don't think she's strong enough in commander. Her +1 is marginal removal in a format of sturdy creatures, her -2 is passable but I have better ways to recur things, and her -7 is both infeasible and subpar for a planeswalker ult (IMO).
Happy deckbuilding! :)
January 18, 2017 2:06 p.m.
So first of all, I love this deck and everything about it.
Second, a handful of suggestions:
Behold the Beyond is my favorite tutor for graveyard combos. The drawback just... isn't a drawback. It costs a lot of mana, but a successful resolution can usually mean the game.
Next, Undead Alchemist makes your combo with Selhoff Occultist and Altar of Dementia faster than just relying on Sidisi. That said, it IS a win-more/win-faster, but if you ever find yourself without access to Sidisi, it could be an alternative.
January 28, 2017 4:07 p.m.
These are solid additions!
why no Deadbridge chant? Regrowth
February 2, 2017 9:21 p.m.
I copied this deck and absolutelly love it, its amazing!
I don't have some cards like hedron crab, krosan restorer, sellhoff occustist, necromancy, tombstone stairs and yagmoths will.
Yagmoth i dont use because it wins the game too much and i sort of dislike this, so i use the magus that is weak, the others i simply dont have or did not tried to get rs
I put some cards that i cant remember right now in the place of them. (demonic tutor, survival of the fitest, etc)
The only thing that i would change after playing some games with the deck is to put shreouded on the slot occupied by avatar of woe, i wasn't able to make value of the avatar in any game..
It's fun, it's hard, it's challenging, it's strong, it's very strong, but it's weak too if you want to keep your friends hahahaha
Thank you so much for sharing this with us.
February 3, 2017 10:11 p.m.
Altar of Dementia + (Extractor Demon /Selhoff Occultist ) + Sidisi, Brood Tyrant = Infinite Zombies, Mill All Opponents
Can you explain this combo to me? I'm having a hard time figuring out how you go infinite. You would still have to hit a creature each time until only dread is left in your library, right?
February 12, 2017 11:30 p.m.
PhotogenicParasympathetic: Thank you for the comment! :) I'll consider Undead Alchemist, though Vengeful Dead seems a bit win-more (it only REALLY does work in a more midrange and less all-out-combo build than this one). Noxious Ghoul was in this deck originally, but had to come out when it was killing all of my own combo pieces :( I wish I owned a Survival of the Fittest I really should get my hands on a gold-bordered copy. For now, though, Fauna Shaman does the trick well enough.
onemorevictim: Deadbridge Chant used to be in here, but got cut for two reasons. First, I found it too inconsistent - I like my reanimation to be reliable. Second, to be honest, choosing a random card in my GY got pretty tedious when my GY was 50+ cards, haha. Also, it's not a creature, which is generally a strike against cards in this deck.
Patolea: I'm so glad you like the deck! It's one of my favorites, too :) And you're 100% right about Avatar of Woe sucking here; I really do need to find something better for that slot. Perhaps you're right about Sheoldred, thanks!
kilgore: It's not a proper infinite combo until Dread is the last card in my library. But statistically speaking, as long as I have 3+ creatures before I start the loop, it almost always mills my entire deck. Mathematically, it's because milling four cards per zombie in two increments gives me a (4x.37-4x.37x.37)=93% chance of hitting at least one zombie and thus breaking even :)
February 15, 2017 2:33 a.m.
Volrath's Stronghold could do you some good here to get back good creatures or even stack them up to redump into your graveyard.
February 20, 2017 9:23 p.m.
March 19, 2017 8:22 a.m.
Auronit if my deck is dependent on certain artifacts. I'll run both.
Each has its own investment. Buried ruin must be sacrificed but the artifact goes to your hand. So you are really at card parity. Or very close too.
Academy ruins can be reused but puts the card on top of your library. Some might consider this to be a loss of tempo but can also be seen as card advantage. If activated at the end of an opponents turn, it's really only upside. I think for this reason it's a better card.
March 19, 2017 4:12 p.m.
I like the way this deck looks. Love the colors its running, too, and your combos. It would definitely be worth the build, and am going to check out the budget version, too.
March 23, 2017 5:33 p.m.
Hey man, after playing this deck on and off for a few months now, I can honestly say that I love it.
Never has anyone gotten so salty over Worm Harvest as when I have played this deck. Thanks for the deck!
March 23, 2017 7:30 p.m.
TearsInRain23: I really should get a copy of that card, heh.
bushido_man96: Thanks! I'm glad you like it.
illumfolly: . thank you!! I actually haven't been playing this deck much recently (it's still put together, I just haven't gotten it out of the box), but I feel like I'm going to tweak it in the near future. What have your experiences been with it recently? :) Is there anything you'd change/cut/add?
March 24, 2017 1:27 p.m.
So I usually just whip it out whenever I am feeling kindof frisky.
I haven't actually done much testing with replacements. Basically, all the fun for me is ganking unprepared decks with hordes of zambambos or a bunch of worms. So many value engines! (unless your grave is exiled lmao).
March 25, 2017 1:40 p.m.
At their worst, Fastlands operate like Shard/Wedge lands, and don't slow you down a turn with bounce lands. At their best you've a dual land early on. The Pain Lands are usually just great for any multi-coloured Deck.
Tarnished Citadel bolts you, but it's worth it if you're really in need of the colour.
April 19, 2017 3:14 p.m.
Let's see how this plays!
This is the largest revision I've ever done to this deck so we'll have to test if it works. I replaced all of the basics (and the two slow fetches) with various nonbasic duals and fast fetches (though I can't afford ABUR ones obviously), for two reasons: to try and fix that damn color-screw problem, and to further abuse Hermit Druid. This may make the deck a bit slower (more ETB tapped lands) but hopefully the two advantages above make up for it.
(Thanks to n0bunga for giving me the kick in the pants to finally try this.)
April 20, 2017 2:18 a.m.
Maybe Plague Belcher or the other Zombies might work here.
The Belcher can at least provide an wincon with infinite Zombies, provided you have a sac outlet.
April 20, 2017 7:40 a.m.
April 20, 2017 10:46 a.m.
April 20, 2017 10:53 a.m.
Megalomancer: Honestly? I swapped all of the basics for nonbasics recently and forgot to swap it, haha.
April 21, 2017 7:04 p.m.
Hey, if you need protection against graveyard hate you could use Voidslime, Disallow or maybe Stifle. Would help against Bojuka Bog or Relic of Progenitus. Also how about Embalmer's Tools for the zombie mill?
April 23, 2017 4:11 a.m.
Also wouldn't running Fabricate be really good for this deck? As artifacts play quite a important role here.
Otherwise, great deck! I finished getting most of the cards today (some I changed for personal tastes) and have playtested it :)
April 25, 2017 2:29 a.m.
Neckworn: Honestly, this deck just threw up its hands and went full-combo a while ago. I never had the counters in hand at the right time, and they diluted my creature . And yes, I definitely need Embalmer's Tools.
Shadow_Zephire: That's an interesting question. If all of my win-cons were in my GY and I get hit with Nihil Spellbomb, I just lose. The same applies to if an opponent T0's a Leyline of the Void and it never gets removed. BUT, with intelligent play, you can get around this - either force them to explode the Nihil Spellbomb preemptively by attempting to reanimate something threatening (notably the Deadeye/Peregrine combo, which they have to answer or lose), or use instant-speed reanimation to grab Laboratory Maniac in response, or simply use Sidisi's beatdown to kill them before they detonate the stupid thing.
It's frustrating when your opponent has a strong anti-GY card, but with clever play you can outwit them and remove it (assuming no one else removes it first).
April 25, 2017 12:16 p.m.
April 25, 2017 12:31 p.m.
This deck is no longer my most powerful or adaptable deck (I need to rebuild/tweak it) though.
April 25, 2017 12:37 p.m.
Interesting. I just build a hermit druid combo deck and one of my favorite things is Necrotic Ooze + Disciple of the Ring, once I deck myself I just counter everything. :) let me know what you think when you have a sec.
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April 25, 2017 2:10 p.m.
How about Protean Hulk? The card was unbanned. Any way it would work great in this deck?
April 26, 2017 6:13 a.m.
Darkersun: Oh, definitely. I just wish it could grab from GY too - I'm going to have to retune a few things to abuse it.
April 26, 2017 1:34 p.m.
May 9, 2017 1:05 p.m.
May 9, 2017 1:10 p.m.
Yea, that is an issue, unless it nets you more advantage than them.
May 9, 2017 1:20 p.m.
Hi Daedalus19876, nice changes. I finally uploaded my owned variante of your deck: http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/sidisi-the-mirror-mad-necrotic-ooze/ hope you don't mind. And maybe you have some tips and tricks.Thanks and Best Regards.
May 14, 2017 7:31 p.m.
Darkersun: I don't mind at all! :) I'll take a look. I'm happy I could inspire you!
May 15, 2017 1:03 a.m.
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