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- Is gaea's blessing exiled due to hedron crab & ravenous trap
- Does landfall trigger for each card?
- Does an activated ability from a permanent still resolve if it is buried first?
- Can my opponent cast a spell after I play a creature and before I play a land on my first main phase? Or does he has to wait for me to give priority?
- Infinite Mana/Infinite Mill?
Creature — Crab
Landfall Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, target player puts the top three cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
Hedron Crab Discussion
1 day ago
Well, you found some1 who checked this out.
Doesn’t look too bad so far, but let a veteran Muldrotha player tell you: this will not work too well. The reason is simply the amount of non-permanents. Muldrotha really profits from permanents especially if you plan to mill yourself with stuff like your Ashiok, traumatize and maybe additions like Hedron Crab and Mesmeric Orb . If you mill instants or sorceries you can only play them if you recur them before with stuff like eternal witness. This is only worth it for big and gamewinning Cards like cyclonic rift or rise of the dark realms. Try to cut down the non-permanents to a minimum and replace them with permanents that have a similar effect. If you checked some decks here before you probably came across my list, otherwise feel free to do so.
2 weeks ago
Hey, nice to hear somebody likes mill in EDH! Not to blatantly advertise my deck, but it's one of my four decks which I constantly update every time a new set comes out and whatever, so take a look at it if you want for some advice: "Library.exe has stopped working".
Start from this viewpoint: in EDH, to win, you'd have to mill from 100 (if you are 1 vs 1) to 300 (4 player match) cards to win. It's a huge lot, so your milling has to be reusable, versatile and impacting.
From my experience, since you don't run graveyard recursion for instants/sorceries and you don't run a spellslinger deck anyways, I'd suggest to cut cards like Archive Trap , Mind Funeral , Shared Trauma : these are one use, so either they're super good (take out an opponent kind of good) or they're inefficient.
Hedron Crab is useless in EDH, for real, don't spend that money, it's not worth it (even though it is in modern). Same goes for Jace's Phantasm / Lord of the Void / Oona, Queen of the Fae , which for different reasons don't provide enough for their mana investment. Yeah, 1 mana 5/5 flyer, and now? Mill 5?
Not to mention, you will never ever successfully cast Enter the Infinite : if you really just want to combo out, even a Diabolic Tutor would be a better choice. 12 mana is hardly achievable without mana ramp.
I've noticed a general lack of card draw and this is really dangerous. Consider tweaking this.
From what it seems, I'd say you trusted edhrec.com too much, and again I'd invite you to take a look at my deck above. I play in 4 players multiplayer matches and trust me, there are many other useful cards you didn't consider and many others which are not worth including. Take your time, and once you're ready, tell me and I'll come back to check your changes!
3 weeks ago
Fetch-lands ( Misty Rainforest )) or even Evolving Wilds could help if you don't hit landfall enough, but I'm not sure if you need it. Do you find the milling Hedron Crab helpful? Maybe an Arboreal Grazer would help... idk. Cool deck
1 month ago
1 month ago
Thanks for making this primer. It's always good to hear other people's thoughts on and approaches to Mill. While I did not fully read everything, and I deeply apologize if you already discussed it, I wanted to know your thoughts on adding at least a single Oboro, Palace in the Clouds for repeatable Hedron Crab and Fatal Push triggers and did you ever consider running a couple or playset of Mission Briefing as a way to not only act as additional copies of mill and defense spells, but also digging to find said mill or defense cards?
1 month ago
I would include fetch lands they work perfect with Hedron Crab 1 fetch means 2 landfall trigger :D :
ur actually dont need the shock lands but they are a improvement, but simply not the first think I would change: Watery Grave
1 month ago
I may add the Hedron Crab but
my deck has a very different strategy from yours so most of your cards dont fit in my deck unless i want to change strategy. For example, i will mill a lot and most instants are very hard to retrieve them unless i use a Snapcaster Mage (too expensive) or use flashback and aftermath cards which the last is better because whenever i mill is like i "draw" those cards.
1 month ago
For lanfall I would go with the usual landfall creatures like roil elemental, baloths, avenger and Hedron Crab . Throw in Crucible of Worlds , Ramunap Excavator , Azusa, Lost but Seeking , Oracle of Mul Daya , Mesmeric Orb and some fetchlands. Mill yourself to have always access to enough lands and get value of your 3-4 landdrops each turn. World Shaper should be a must and maybe Scapeshift is worth including aswell.
Hedron Crab occurrence in decks from the last year
All decks: 0.08%
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%