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- Is gaea's blessing exiled due to hedron crab & ravenous trap
- Does landfall trigger for each card?
- Does an activated ability from a permanent still resolve if it is buried first?
- Can my opponent cast a spell after I play a creature and before I play a land on my first main phase? Or does he has to wait for me to give priority?
- Infinite Mana/Infinite Mill?
Creature — Crab
Landfall Whenever a land enters the battlefield under your control, target player puts the top three cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard.
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Hedron Crab Discussion
4 days ago
shirouu- First, thank you for the uovote and thanks for considering my deck for a comeback!
Yeah, the "No" factor of this deck makes it pretty aggravating to play.
The real wallet sluggers here are:
Mesmeric Orb- These are nearly 40% of the deck's cost. Unfortunately, also nearly indespensible to the deck's mechanics. Doing so much of the heavy lifting, I'm afraid there isn't any comparable replacement for their long-game potency.
Oboro, Palace in the Clouds- this isn't necessary to the deck. In fact, it's in this list, but I don't actually have one for it in paper. My one copy is in my Esper Salt Mill. This list does quite well without it. You could use Halimar Depths for some deck fixing, and it would work with Deprive and Hedron Crab in a defensive position but still add fuel to your wincon.
Thing in the Ice Flip- This is still in testing. With only 2 in the deck, it's not a crucial card. More of a backup wincon should I face a go-wide token or weenie deck. You could do AEtherize, or fill in with one more of each Unsummon and Vapor Snag. I've even been considering Boomerang, so I can return their lands as well.
On the low end of pricing, these cards are over 50% of the deck's cost. I'm not sure how competitive your meta is, but this will still be annoying in any capacity. If you're playing more casually, you can always do a casual mill like Bigger Bluer Eraserer, this deck features 2 cards, not legal in Modern: Whirlpool Rider and Accumulated Knowledge.
The other option to making this more effective with a budget, would be to add some more tempo. Mana Leaks, or other cheap disruption spells would simply buy you time to finish the job without the Orbs.
Hope this helps!! And I sincerely hope you get to use this and win with it. It's a lot of fun if you really like being the troll at the table!
Any more questions, or I can help, let me know!!
6 days ago
I just had a revelation. Spellskite would be amazing protection in several ways. It protects you from bolts, Hedron Crab from removal, and your key artifacts, Mesmeric Orb and Ensnaring Bridge, from removal, too. Dont know what to replace just yet, but it's something to consider and I have yet to see a build with it.
6 days ago
A few copies of Fraying Sanity is almost a must-have for any mill deck that splashes Blue in my opinion. Hedron Crab is also another low-mana way to get some free milling and it's not the world's worst chump-blocker for only 1 mana. If you want some higher-dollar ideas, Glimpse the Unthinkable is a pretty popular one to run with Black/Blue. Also check Mind Funeral, Traumatize, and maybe do some deck-searches on here using some of those cards as a starting point. Mill decks are evil to play against. Hope this helps!
1 week ago
Personally i'd get rid of: Cloud Manta, Deep-Sea Terror, Deepglow Skate, Boundless Realms, Farseek, Genesis Storm, Nissa's Renewal, Skyshroud Claim, Giant Growth, Glissa's Scorn, Naturalize, Pulse of Murasa, Sweep Away
and replace with things like: Hedron Crab, Tidal Kraken, Serpent of the Endless Sea , Kraken of the Straits, Isleback Spawn, Grozoth, Sealock Monster, Stormsurge Kraken, Benthic Behemoth, Breaching Leviathan, Guard Gomazoa, Gomazoa, Dormant Gomazoa, Broken Bond
1 week ago
Fair warning, mill in edh will make you a target. If we're going for it anyway....
First up, I'd add a Sol Ring. Your tribe seems to be a mixture of octopi, krakens, and leviathans. All of which have high cmcs. Fairly certain you need the ramp.
Bloodchief Ascension gives you an infinite combo with mindcrank.
Also, not sure if your tribal rule allows for this or not, but if it is ocean dweller tribal then maybe a Hedron Crab?
2 weeks ago
2 weeks ago
Hey elgosu, I've been meaning to make a lands-matter deck for quite some time and this list has really given me the push to finish the brew. I decided to go with Yidris, Maelstrom Wielder for a sort of unconventional 4c lands deck; we don't get too many new cards by adding blue to your Jund build, but they are very powerful. With blue, I saw potential in the following cards:
Hedron Crab (the least exciting one by far, but still decent by all means)
Thrasios, Triton Hero (yet another infinite mana sink)
Kiora, the Crashing Wave (may be a bit lackluster, but you can never have too many "play extra lands" cards)
Kefnet the Mindful (land bounce and draw seems good)
Patron of the Moon (the most exciting for me personally; does wonders with amulet)
Retreat to Coralhelm (there's gotta be an infinite untap combo somewhere in here)
Sunder (our own version of hurkyl's recall)
Trade Routes (seems pretty solid in general as a discard outlet and bounce outlet)
Lastly, we can obviously play more karoos, which works well with amulet. So, if you were to add blue to this list, would you consider adding any of the above cards or any others I haven't mentioned, and what would you take out if you did?
3 weeks ago
I'll admit that Hedron Crab hasn't exactly put in the same amount of work that any of the other Landfall triggers have and at the end of the day, it's just a pet card. Getting it out as a turn 1 play has been the best experience for it so far and, if it doesn't draw removal, then I'm able to reliably ramp from there. It's only milled someone out once, and it took multiple plays of Oboro, Palace in the Clouds to get those final few cards milled.
The likes of Squandered Resources and Zuran Orb would both be unarguably better for the deck, but this is built from stuff that I mostly already owned and Squandered Resources has shot up in price recently while I just haven't gotten around to getting a Zuran Orb.
As for Sylvan Awakening, I'm kinda just on the fence about including a second affect like that. I'll have to test it out sometime.
Thanks for checking the deck out and the suggestions Huntluther!