Hm...What will I do today...I need to test my new Mayael deck. Goes to Advertise your deck clicks on a deck from someone I recognize. proceeds to get wrecked...Right. Mother Nature is a DJ XD

Awesome deck. It was very helpful in putting my Sultai Tasigur deck together. I don't have any advice, but I'm more than happy to compliment it! It looks like a ton of fun to play.

I've been wondering what your game plan is with hermit druid? When do you decide to activate it and what do you play after it? Do you wait until you have a living death in hand?

kilgore: I am playing basic lands in this deck, so he doesn't mill my entire deck when I use him. I use him every opportunity that I can, especially since he is guaranteed to give me a land when his ability resolves (ie if I don't have a land to play for turn, his ability is "free" because I can play the land he finds me). More mill is always good, so unless I desperately need the mana for something else it's a good idea to activate him.

You could probably use Caller of the Claw to great effect in this deck

illumfolly: Hm. Interesting idea, and I can see your point, but most of the things that die here are tokens. I won't put it on fr now, but I'll pay attention during my next few games and see if I can find a place.

Thank you for your comment! :)

So after the embarrassment of my Mayael deck I decided to upload and test my girl Maren much closer games but I had to keep a notebook on hand for all the Graveyard interactions! I'm embarrassed to say both games I won I had to pull out the Mike and Trike combo. But man this deck is vicious! Rave to the Grave 4: Ashes to Ashes Dust to Dust

Yeah, so I was shamelessly playing this deck and had included both Caller and Bitter Ordeal to great effect.

The Undead Alchemist + Altar of Dementia synergy is just monstrous

Casey4321: I'd love to see how that game went, haha! We'll have to find a way to play online sometime :) If you have a little time, I'd love to hear your suggestions on my Meren build (Beggars and Kings: Meren EDH) - it kind of needs work :/ What turn did the game end on?

And mind if I quote your kind words in the deck description? :D

illumfolly: Bitter Ordeal was in this deck originally, but I eventually took it out for...reasons I don't remember anymore. I'll have to try it again; the card is sweet. Thanks for reminding me!

Of course you may! I'll look at your deck in a moment. The game ended on turn 8.

By any chance do you still have the super budget version of this deck anywhere? I'm all about dat budget life. I love graveyard decks.

Also, you asked about how to evade graveyard hate without reshuffling your graveyard. Most directed graveyard hate targets the player, so Orbs of Warding, Witchbane Orb, and other things that give you yourself hex proof can stave off an untimely Bojuka Bog or Tormod's Crypt.

illumfolly: ...?

SmokeyBear15: Yep! Feel free to leave a +1 if you like it! :)

$26 Extreme Budget $idisi EDH

Commander / EDH Daedalus19876

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Sorry m8, feel free to delete these two comments. I edited the previous one down to nothing because it was a comment for another deck.

I know how complicated and subtle EDH decks are, mostly from a comment or two loaded with suggestions for my own, so I'm not sure what I might suggest yet...

All I can say for now is: If you're going for hyper-edgy competitive, swap out your basic lands for their Snow-Covered counterparts for the rare occasion when someone tries to pull some kind of advantage on a snow-covered technicality. Otherwise, replace them with the full-arts, probably from (BFZ). It's probably irrelevant, but it's aesthetically pleasing here and on paper.

I'll have to test this sometime and see how my own deck performs against it. I look forward to it, with all this arguably well-earned praise. ;)

NotSquishedYet: IRL, my lands are all full-art. I just haven't bothered to show it here :) I agree, they all look fantastic!

Think Academy Ruins and Buried Ruin are a good fit here?

Mesmeric orb and basalt monolith are to good to mill. This way you can usually get at least one back. And with crucible in play, you can return both to hand.

kilgore: Academy Ruins is amazing, and I'd LOVE to get a copy. But unless you feel like Paypal-ing me $25, I don't think it's in the cards for now :D

Buried Ruin is a very, very good idea, but I'm already having some trouble managing to get my three colors. Where would you slot it in?

Daedalus19876yeah I was lucky enough to get a copy $10 ago.

Reflecting Pool is a land I like in three color decks.

Chromatic Lantern I think is still a great inclusion to any and all three color decks. It's also another target for the ruins.

I wonder if you have to many black sources of mana?

I have noticed that the Battlecruiser style of Commander means that usually, going by my own commander deck, by the time I achieve 5-6 mana and all three colors, I have a triple blue, a double green, and a triple white; the mana base being balanced between all three colors in this format has far less detriment if the outer costs are imbalanced.

kilgore and NotSquishedYet: The mana is weird in this deck, honestly. I used to have Reflecting Pool in here, but it wasn't amazing. I almost never need double of a single color - most cards that contain that kind of mana cost are meant to be reanimated anyway (and thus bypassing the mana cost).

When I do need double, it is ALWAYS double (or triple or quadruple) black so I can chain several reanimation spells or what-have-you. I also have spent black to reanimate Wood Elves to grab Breeding Pool, so sometimes having black can guarantee me the other colors.

TLDR: My ideal land distribution is one Forest, one Island, and several Swamps. I'm still working on how to achieve that, however. Exotic Orchard used to work well; maybe I'll re-add it.

Hm.... I'll think on it.

On another note, you have a lot of broken combos waiting to happen - I had time to at least think of some general suggestions that may or may not help. I don't have much time, so I must apologize for the rough wording.

Mikaeus, the Unhallowed+Triskelion=You win.

Hell's Caretaker+Thornbite Staff+ETB=You win.

Kokusho, the Evening Star=Value/Win.

In B/W, for example, the Caretaker is broken because it allows a turn 2 Iona, Shield of Emeria on a good hand. T3 on an iffy one. I'm sure there's something to be abused with that...

Asceticism and other creature protection, so that it takes me an extra turn or two tutoring a bypass to steal your combo pieces and shut the deck down. Those few turns might make all the difference, because I always have another way.

Card tutors are absolutely necessary - I have at least 6 copies of every card in my EDH deck at any given time by the tutor chains, packed into the 99, and that's without the best tutoring color: Black.

Remember to have a contingency for everything, a backup for your contingency, and a way to get any of them at any given time. I'm not sure if there's any way to break a few of my game-locks without Supreme Verdict, but they take a while to set up.

Have you given Lord of Extinction some thought? It gets huge with all the self-milling you're doing, and it pairs well with Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord as an alternate win con.

Phaetion: I've considered him before, but I already have several cards that take on a similar role (Golgari Grave-Troll and Sewer Nemesis) in the list. I could be convinced to stick him in (the aforementioned cards are great), but what would you cut to add him? I'd need to know where to stick him before spending $15 to get him :)

I would probably cut either Wall of Blood or Basalt Monolith, though I'm leaning towards the former because I have a feeling that there's a use for the monolith outside of ramp.

Here's my argument for Wall of Blood: You added it because of its interaction with either Jodah's Avenger or Disciple of Bolas. You cut the avenger but kept the disciple. You're not really losing anything by replacing the wall with Lord of Extinction because you'll gain a truckton of life and cards-and you would not have spent so much life in the first place. You'll gain so much life that only Sorin Markov or Magister Sphinx will bring you down to earth.

My thoughts on Basalt Monolith is because it's just...there, though I have a feeling there's a reason but I'm not seeing it. Three mana is a considerable amount, but it doesn't untap unless I'm missing something.

I hope that helps. Taking out either will keep your CMC curve even if the fix raises it slightly.