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Creature — Zombie
When Haunted Dead enters the battlefield, put a 1/1 white Spirit creature token with flying onto the battlefield.
, Discard two cards: Return Haunted Dead from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
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Haunted Dead Discussion
2 months ago
I've been thinking about creating a modern deck for ages but nothing has really jumped out at me as attractive until a couple of quite recent discoveries - the not very wallet friendly "End Foretold" and some cheeky use of Elder Deep-Fiend for fun and profit.
Since the EDF approach is a bit more realistic for me right now I wanted to gather some help pursuing a direction, I'm not planning on taking the deck to the pro tour or anything but I do want it to kick a bit of butt.
I can't totally decide if I should go Temur (seems like value town), Grixis (for awesome black removal) or even just stay in UR but I know I want to use a starting point of:
I've considered several angles including using Glorybringer which I like for milking some value out of before emerge-saccing it; adding numerous sweepers like Sweltering Suns; Haunted Dead and Prized Amalgam; a discard package to control the early game and make sure the evil octopus gets to come to the party; Glyph Keeper; Cathartic Reunion and/or Burning Inquiry. I'm not fond of the Arbor Elf / Utopia Sprawl route like a popular SaffronOlive build, I want a different direction.
Not so bothered about covering the mana base just now, I can get to that later unless anyone has any amazing or 'out there' suggestions to discuss.
Thanks in advance, I'm excited to see if some ideas get rolling.
2 months ago
If you want to be competitive in a Modern setting, then first decide if you want to play Dredge, or play Zombie Tribal. Sadly, if you try to 'pseudo-dredge', it will be the most difficult thing in the world to pilot. Either dredge, or don't dredge. Forget about anything halfway.
Dredge is primarily a RED deck, supported by black & green. It may run a handful of blue or white cards Prized Amalgam, Narcomoeba, infrequently Lingering Souls ...but the idea is not to hand-cast these. With Dredge, you want a majority of nonland cards which are useful/usable from the 'yard (Darkblast, Raven's Crime, et al). Sidisi has no place here; he's slow & he can't recur himself. Dredge cards are the only self-mill engine you'll need.
Dredge runs a handful of zombies; Amalgam, Haunted Dead, & Vengeful Pharaoh. Gravecrawler is questionable, because you won't always have the zombies to recur him with. Dread Wanderer might be better. Bloodghast is better still... albeit not a zombie.
Dredge relies on fast early-game red plays to kick-start the mill engine; Faithless Looting, Insolent Neonate, Cathartic Reunion, Burning Inquiry. Plus Life from the Loam is in there to make sure you hit your land drops. Once you can begin dredging, you will continue doing so all game.
Zombie Tribal can be built a bit more loosely. This is a black deck which sometimes splashes green for interaction (Abrupt Decay, et al), or white for Tidehollow Sculler + key sideboard pieces (Stony Silence), or blue for The Scarab God ...although Scarab God is a tad slow for Modern, so he would need plenty of interaction to support him (Inquisition of Kozilek + Thoughtseize, for starters).
But Zombie Tribal primarily just wants fast, solid, value creatures: Gravecrawler. Cryptbreaker. Relentless Dead. Geralf's Messenger. Diregraf Colossus. A few lords, too; Death Baron + Lord of the Accursed. Ideally, you'd want a few Mutavaults, too... so don't splash more than one color (mono-black is fine!). Try to keep the land-count low-ish... maybe < 21 ...unless you're running Scarab Gods or Dark Salvations.
Your manabase, as it is now, is not doing a lot of good towards either option. Three fetchlands + zero anycolor lands cannot reliably support 3 colors, ever. But that's okay, because neither option calls for 3 colors.
You'll either want to get Gemstone Mines + Mana Confluences + some fetches which find mountains, for Dredge... or else get a few Cavern of Souls, Mutavaults, + a pile of swamps, if you want to build zombies.
4 months ago
well, some good zombies in general are Relentless Dead, Cryptbreaker, Prized Amalgam and Geralf's Messenger all great cards in general. some good synergy in the deck might be with Liliana, Heretical Healer Flip and Risen Executioner both great in the deck as well. you also could try Haunted Dead and Lord of the Undead or maybe even Liliana's Mastery.
8 months ago
I like this deck a lot, it looks like a ton of fun to play.
My main suggestions would be to cut some of the higher mana cost spells and add some mana acceleration like land searching effects or mana rocks.
I see that you already run some tutors to put things into your graveyard, but it might be nice to add some tutors that put cards in your hand. I know this is a budget list so I'd suggest Dark Petition and Beseech the Queen. Demonic Collusion is also good because the buyback allows you to discard cards to reanimate.
8 months ago
MTGgoldfish has an article about building a budget mana base that you should check out. One thing it suggests is using painlands, which will always come into play untapped, over checklands, which will come in to play tapped most of the time for you.
Remand isn't good in this deck. Counterspells are best in decks that play at instead speed, and this one doesn't do that. Get a few more creatures and removal spells over that.
Overall, you should use efficient removal over versatile removal. Anguished Unmaking and Oblivion Ring can get rid of anything, but they also cost 3 mana. Better to go with Doom Blade, Go for the Throat or Ultimate Price instead, and keep Anguished Unmaking in the sideboard for when you're up against some deck that has enchantments / artifacts that you need to remove. Better yet, use Fragmentize in the sideboard for that purpose.
Lastly, Prized Amalgam isn't great here. In your deck, 90% of the time it's just a 3/3 for 3 mana, which really isn't good enough for modern. If you want to REALLY take advantage of it, you want to be discarding or milling it and then get it back for free along with something else. If you wanted a deck that was focused on this you'd want 4x Zombie Infestation, 4xGrave Scrabbler, 4xDread Wanderer, and maybe some Haunted Dead and Necromancer's Stockpile along with your amalgams and gravecrawlers. Imagine a game where you cast Zombie Infestation turn 2, discard an Amalgam and a Gravecrawler, and cast the gravecrawler from the graveyard next turn to bring back the amalgam!
8 months ago
Nice start. Have you considered a win with Necrotic Ooze instead of just the Lab Maniac route after milling your library? Only problem with Lab Man is it oftentimes requires more mana for Deep Analysis where Nooze can win without extra mana.
Also, I'll second your choice for Narcomoeba, Fatestitcher, and Dregscape Zombie. Haunted Dead seems worse because it requires 2 mana and two cards where the other line only requires 1 due to Fatestitcher untapping a land.
8 months ago
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I think you have an unnecessary number of fodder creatures for Dread Return, do you really need Narcomoeba, Fatestitcher, and Dregscape Zombie? Haunted Dead will make two bodies on only one card slot. I'm also not really sure you have enough artifacts to warrant Metalworker, especially with no other artifact creatures and when all your artifacts are likely to be played before it.
I'd also look into a couple ways to blink Mairsil, because right now the only way you have to get additional cards caged is to sac her to Magus of the Wheel's ability and recast. Imagine you cage Razaketh, the quickest way to win is tutoring up Mirror-Mad and comboing, but oh wait you can't do that unless someone removes Mairsil for you. Essence Flux would give you a chain to win by sacing two creatures to Raz's ability, and I really recommend AEtherling as it's a great way to protect your commander while continuing to cage cards.
8 months ago
@Wendigo4481 No problem, I'm glad you realized I was just explaining things because I was afraid I came off a little "pushy", like I was saying no your card won't work sorta thing. I think the deck is fun to play, it does take some thinking and a little practice to get used to sequencing things and knowing what you need to look for as your milling but overall it's fun. People can get a little salty when you flash in an Elder Deep-Fiend in their upkeep, wipe the board, tap their lands down, and then bring back a Haunted Dead and a couple Prized Amalgam at the end of the turn because they're basically dead the next turn and didn't get to take their last turn but the big eldrazi and the graveyard stuff is what makes the deck fun to play.