Acquire Phenax, God of Deception

Gidgetimer on Oloro's Alternate Wincons

5 hours ago

Thank you for the suggestion of Darksteel Ingot the obelisk was in the precon and I just left it in and didn't even think about the fact that I didn't have an ingot in here. Ajani Steadfast only really interacts with creatures and Planeswalkers and I don't have a focus on creatures or any Planeswalkers at all. I have problems with most of the gods so in list form all 6 gods:

• Heliod, God of the Sun - not attacking, don't care about vigilance. Lets assume the other abilities don't exist because eww.

• Thassa, God of the Sea - has potential, if I were to attack I would want it to be unblockable. The scry is nice but has minimal value since it can only ever determine one of the 4+ draws for the round.

• Erebos, God of the Dead - I most the time don't care about my opponents gaining life since I gain more and my win cons don't care about their life when I activate them. If I had to face off against another Oloro I may put it in, but my playgroup keeps generals unique. Greed is passable in this deck, but bad Greed is bad.

• Ephara, God of the Polis - Underpowered draw engine is underpowered.

• Phenax, God of Deception - not going to give the reanimator decks more choices thank you.

• Athreos, God of Passage - Not creature focused enough to waste a spot making my opponents pay life to deny me my creatures (no one would allow me to have my creatures back).

Again the Panorama was in the pre-con and I just hadn't dropped it yet. Now that Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is $5 I may pick one (or five) up. Although I would argue that Evolving Wilds and Terramorphic Expanse should be cut before the Panorama.

Thanks for your consideration and time to look over my deck. I'm sorry if I seemed a bit aggressive about the gods. When someone suggests I card I have rejected in deck building, I like to lay out the reasons for my choices so that we can discuss if my reasoning is wrong.

Didgeridooda on Ideas on a Commander deck ...

5 hours ago

No body says don't run Consuming Aberration in a Phenax, God of Deception EDH deck.

FatherRaz on Zambambinos

9 hours ago

If you're going for a theme deck, it would be wise to stick to theme for style points. Cutting cards like Venser's Journal , Phenax, God of Deception , Lazav, Dimir Mastermind , and Consuming Aberration will help keep your deck tasty and zombified, while also losing alternate strategies that will make your deck awkward. (Zombies is a strategy on its own, so you don't need the lifegain support or the mill combo present in Phenax/Lazav).Waste Not also seems a little out of place, given the intense lack of discard you have running around. Unless your deck is a dedicated discard deck in-the-making, I would cut it for new zombs.A token strategy would work very well here, making Undertaker quite good as a method of recursion, and Havengul Runebinder fantastic as a form of token generation. As well, running Zombify would be sweet and rather fitting. Rise of the Dark Realms may also be a good choice. Have you considered taking a strong look into the removal that was present during Onslaught? You might find some fun toys in there.

Wwonka on Dimir Mill

1 day ago

Might take a look at Phenax, God of Deception though you only have 6 creatures than can benefit from this without getting devotion up. I use Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker main board as the 4 toughness is nice. I would drop the Guildgates and opt for Watery Grave - it is a guildgate but you can pay 2 life if you need to use the mana NOW.

I also run a few Traumatize in my deck as it really helps the milling once you have mana set.

DrLitebur on Showdown 2.0 #3: Controlled Burn

1 day ago

I know that some people love cards like Consuming Aberration for mill decks, and cards like them, such as Wight of Precinct Six , but honestly having played with a lot of mill cards and a lot of mill strategies I have found that having a deck that relies on your opponent's graveyard to have your heavy hitter come online is a bad strategy. It ends up being a crap shoot at best, and at worst you end up with a very underpowered creature. I have to agree with Apoptosis here and say that if you are going to run a mill strategy I would focus with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver and maybe Phenax, God of Deception , with big-butted creatures such as Wall of Frost and Hover Barrier to protect your assets and Triton Tactics to maximize their effectiveness. I have had some good success with that. The exile instead of graveyard keeps creatures like Chandra's Phoenix and other graveyard-happy creatures from being useful, and that is worth their weight in gold. Combine that with counter spells, kill spells, and the afore-mentioned big butts, and you have a decent deck that will not break the budget.

Other than that, I like the write-up, and I humbly submit my new brew for the next series of Showdown...

Sebster21 on Mill, Mill, and ReMill

3 days ago

I would, but Phenax, God of Deception is pretty expensive.

Maketu on Mill vs Aggro

3 days ago

Tested pretty well tonight on MTGO. Some small changes so far:

-2 Crypt Incursion it works well - once. You shouldn't need to cast it twice.

+4 Temple of Deceit was kind of hoping these wouldnt be necessary but you need to smooth out your Mana sources, and the scry is good.

+2 Nightveil Specter the devotion is good to help get Phenax, God of Deception into the game, plus grabbing more mana sources from your opponent.

Weaknesses: Dredge decks using Scavenge, Enchantment removal of which there is none, no card draw.

It does work very well against Aggro though Minotaur and Slithers will pump fast so you must control the board early.

Capt_Obvious123 on Mill, Mill, and ReMill

3 days ago

I think you should add Phenax, God of Deception to mill crazy amounts with Consuming Aberration and Wall of Frost . +1

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