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As long as your devotion to blue or black is less than 7, Phenax isn't a creature
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I love mill decks! Just food for thought because I've been tinkering with a similar one.
Prophet of Kruphix combos so well with Phenax, God of Deception that I'd run 2 of the God. With both on the board, the game ends quickly. Also the ability to flash in Desecration Demon on defense is huge - he's also a mill king. So many people are playing Courser of Kruphix right now that if they play one you can mill control their draws every turn.
Prophet of Kruphix Also allows you to be aggressive and still use your counters.
I think people tend to lean more towards three color reanimator decks for more combos. You lack variety with just two colors, unless you are using your opponents creatures (but then that would not be self-milling).
Plus, there are more useful things than Phenax, God of Deception
. But I am not saying he is not a good commander, since I haven't seen any Phenax EDH decks.
All is my own personal opinion, of course
mehanika - I can definitely see Mana Leak and Void Snare in here for support against aggro decks. Brain Maggot is great, but it doesn't really fit with the zombies. After seeing how well Hedron Crab did, I was already planning on making it a 4-of. Maybe I'd be better off side boarding Geth, Lord of the Vault , but River's Grasp actually works out for me better against my buddy's goblins. I will consider Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker since he is Mind Funeral on a body. I'm taking Consuming Aberration out to see how the deck does without it so, for right now, Phenax, God of Deception won't be included.
Fireball557 - The main reason that I included Breaking over Glimpse the Unthinkable was that I already owned copies of the former. The latter is obviously superior though. Mind Funeral and Lich Lord of Unx are definitely becoming 4-ofs. I considered Nemesis of Reason for this build, but decided against it and tried taking the route with zombies. since I want to stay on that route, an extra Endless Ranks of the Dead would help. As for the dual lands, I'll consider some of the cheaper options.
You both suggested that AEtherspouts come out and I'm thinking about side boarding them against decks like the goblins. I only had them in here over Cyclonic Rift because I was being overrun by goblins and needed to get rid of them two turns sooner. Ghost Quarter looks great for this deck. Taking one land out of a deck before Mind Funeral-ing it is definitely worth it. I don't like Archive Trap only because you need to have both cards to really utilize it. Thank you both for the suggestions.
Blue and black are amazing reanimator colors. Blue's looting effects are the 2nd most effective way to get creatures in the grave (Behind buried alive-effects). Typically I splash red and run Sedris, a lot of people go white and use Oloro, even green is a good choice with Mimeoplasm. But one deck I haven't seen a lot of is Phenax, God of Deception . In my opinion there are 2 kinds of good reanimator generals. The kind that put creatuers on the field (Sedris, the Traitor King or Teneb the Harvester) and the kind that put creatures in the grave (Scion of the Ur-Dragon.) Phenax is the following, leading to a chain reaction of the more creatures you have out, the more you can mill, the more you can play, the more you can mill, the more you can play. Has anybody tried him out as a self-mill commander? Remember he doesn't just mill the opponent.
You're probably going to end up running into land issues running only 28 lands, most decks run between 30-40 depending on how much ramp they choose to run, etc.
I know it's not a budget card but Seedborn Muse is nearly must run if you are running green. Phenax, God of Deception is starting to actually be one of the go to ways to mill people down in EDH now with all the untap available.
Outside of counters you don't seem to be running much removal, Bane of Progress is a nice creature for clearing the board of pesky artifacts and enchantments while keeping with the +1/+1 counters minor theme you have.
What about Phenax, God of Deception and add a bunch of walls. The mill could work very well and just keep the instantaneous and sorceries. +1 check out my deck as well when you get the chance
Looks very interesting. We both has somewhat the same approach to milling (card-wise), so i think/hope you are on to something sustainable.
Just like you, i also have a very hard time get past creature-heavy decks. The overrun is simply too fast. I would suggest adding something like Mana Leak to slow down the process. Also take Brain Maggot or Void Snare .
For milling proficiency, i would suggest adding a few Ghost Quarter . Should you have more Hedron crabs in play, you can mill for 2x. To top of the usability consider Archive Trap for a free mill. If he does not fall for it, you got him a mana behind.
Looking at AEtherspouts it seems rather overpriced to what it does.Same goes with Geth, Lord of the Vault and River's Grasp . For example you could consider Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker for damage + VERY effective milling. If you are happy with playing with Consuming Aberration , you could also give Phenax, God of Deception a thought. With Aberration, you can easily mill 20 per turn!
Good luck with your deck!
remove Asphyxiate and replace with Hero's Downfall not as situational with the untapped, also hits plainswalkers. also consider with all the walls to add in 1 more Phenax, God of Deception Also in my experiance Mind Grind never seems to work as well as you want it to so add Breaking / Entering instead a 2 drop to mill 8 never bad ;). If your not on a budget then drop the Duress to sideboard and add Thoughtseize <------very pricey card though. Possibly add in Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver and Psychic Strike , Dissolve , or Dissipate rather then Cancel all the cards same mana cost just get something out of them other then just the counter. finally drop the 4 Dimir Guildgate for 4 Temple of Deceit ........ Doom Blade a situational card as well maybe replace with one of the above removals and put it sideboard. or maybe Devour Flesh since as a mill deck we dont really care about life totals...... also with devour flesh since you target player instead of creature you can get rid of the pesky hexproof stuff.
|Power / Toughness||4/7|
|Avg. draft pick||2.73|
|Avg. cube pick||3.40|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
|Born of the Gods||Mythic Rare|