Phenax, God of Deception
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
As long as your devotion to blue or black is less than 7, Phenax isn't a creature
Creatures you control have " (Tap) target player puts top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, where X is that creature's toughness"
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Phenax, God of Deception Discussion
1 hour ago
I agree with a lot of suicidalbunny's suggestions. The one big thing that I notice about you have a lot of cards that give you a little mill; it looks pretty similar to how my deck started. From my experience, focus on getting the most bang for you buck. For example, Tome Scour is one of the most cost effective mill cards that I have found, but you only run 1 copy in your deck. This brings me to my second suggestion: run playsets of cards; it will make your deck a lot more consistent. You also seem to focus a lot on attack (i.e. inspired and cypher abilities), but from my experience defense is a lot more important for a mill deck. A Wall of Frost of Guard Gomazoa can go a long way, but that is just my personal preference. I have found that a good Grisly Spectacle or Crypt Incursion can help you get out of a tight spot. As of right now, you deck is pretty cheap and I respect that. If you are willing to shell out the money for Hedron crabs you will not regret it but be careful as they have been known to attract bun spell. Also, spending some money on Consuming Aberration and Phenax, God of Deception can give an awesome win condition. Your number of lands looks pretty good but you probably want more blue than black. Some dual color lands could also be beneficial even if they are just Dimir Guildgates. If you do end up running crabs, Terramorphic Expanse and/or Evolving Wilds are fun for double Landfall procs. Overall, it is a good start, and I look forward to seeing how it progresses.
6 hours ago
I think it's about time that Mill got something powerfull really. The fact that it's also good with Phenax, God of Deception is just gravy. I mean even without Phenax a 6/8 for 6 is a solidi beater in commander. It can block and kill a Sun Titan without dying for Pete's sake! Giving it the extra 2 toughness and having this as a colorless card is very nice, especially considering how every single decks is starving for tripple and tripple as soon as possible to use the best cards.
Really I just can't decide if I would want to do this with Phenax or Oona. Oona is nice because she works without Leyline of the Void.
6 hours ago
First off WotC has put up a new article showing the face cards of the BFZ duel deck: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/arcana/duel-decks-zendikar-vs-eldrazi-packaging-2015-07-29
Now if you haven't already reread Oblivion Sower. Now remember that if you're playing mill having Leyline of the Void is always a smart thing. Do you see where I'm going with this?
If your deck has even half of the following you will see situations where your mill pulls out 6+ lands turn six fairly often:
For those that still don't see it: "When you cast Oblivion Sower, target opponent opponent exiles the top four cards of his or her library, then you may put any number of land cards that player owns from exile onto the battlefield under your control."
The important part is "then you may put any number of land cards that player owns from exile onto the battlefield under your control." So lets say you cast Traumatize on a player T5 with Leyline of the Void out. They exiled 40ish cards. Turn six you cast the new Eldrazi and exile another 4 of their cards. Now from those 44 cards in exile, you put all of the lands into play under you control. Untapped, because it doesn't specify otherwise. Now you just win.
EDIT: Forgot to mention it, but could you imagine Oblivion Sower + Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver in standard at the same time? Talk about theft. WotC always puts the coolest things just out of my reach.
1 day ago
1 day ago
Survival of the Fittest is an amazing card. It's also an expensive card that I haven't been able to trade for, and will not give the money to buy. Eventually I will acquire a copy, along with things like Sylvan Library.
Victimize was one that I used to run. It was lackluster after I started running less creatures and went more controlling. Still a good card, but due to my frequent lack of creatures on board, it isn't ideal. That's why I use Animate Dead and Necromancy instead.
Archetype of Endurance is a very powerful card, but many of my creatures already have inherent protection, or I don't care if they are in play or in the graveyard. I also want to not have too many CMC 7+ cards, and the ones I am currently using outclass the Archetype. Sheoldred is still amazing though, which is why I am running her.
As for Phenax, God of Deception, I also used to run him. He was rarely useful unless it was the "combo kill" of milling them out with a giant fattie. I want more hilarious kills, so I decided to cut him.
Also I took a look through your deck. Thank you for reminding me that I need to add Body Double in here.
1 day ago
It was mentioned before and I'll stress it again, Survival of the Fittest. I have a mimeo deck myself and this card is nuts. Some people have even wrote about it being the best enchantment in the game... I love to use it with cards like Wonder. 1 Forest to discard and tutor anyone you want in a mimeo deck, YES PLEASE!!! Another card which I would suggest for your deck is Victimize. Few people I play against know this card exists and it's mean to sac a hermit druid to bring out my favorite combo, which I am also suggesting, Archetype of Endurance and Sheoldred, Whispering One. Then there is always the... Phenax, God of Deception/Lord of Extinction Combo, which them alone have won me so many games.
In case anyone would like to take a look at my deck, here is the Wineoplasm.
Good luck in your adventures!
3 days ago
You know, if you want to build a creature heavy mill strategy, maybe a switch to Phenax, God of Deception would work? He's only got a few more months in the rotation, but he might be a little better with creatures than the Altar of the Brood. He would let you keep the Skulker and\or Hydra back on defense to help block, and then mill at EoT. Also, if you have a couple permanents out, you might be able to get him online to mill as well. Also, I know you like the Mystic, but if you do look into the Phenax idea, you might want to try out the Dictate of Kruphix- I know I mentioned it previously and you aren't crazy about the card, but it does the same thing as the Mystic (almost), and gives you an additional devotion.
I'm not sure I understand how the Hierarch works with the Tutelage? Ok, I just read the revamped description- he's not a bad chump blocker, but if that's your plan, how about someone who trades with whoever is attacking? Like Typhoid Rats or Heir of the Wilds?
Also, I think you got away with one Friday night- you can't Negate a Herald of Torment no matter what form he's being cast. The card says "enchantment creature" which means it's a creature spell and negate won't work. But don't you worry- your secret is safe with me :-)
|Power / Toughness||4/7|
|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Printings View all
|Born of the Gods||Mythic Rare|
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