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Phenax, God of Deception
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
As long as your devotion to blue or black is less than 7, Phenax isn't a creature
Creatures you control have " (Tap) target player puts top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, where X is that creature's toughness"
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Phenax, God of Deception Discussion
4 days ago
Since you're using zombies and Mindcrank, it could be nice to add Bloodchief Ascension. Ascension is terrible to fight against by itself. Having both on the field however (with three counters on Ascension), basically creates an infinite loop if you ever damage someone.
Undead Alchemist could also be a nice addition (especially since you're also already milling with Phenax, God of Deception). Having Alchemist and Ascension (again, with three counters on it) on the field, will create massive discardation AND lifeloss for your opponent AND lifegain for you whenever your army of zombies attacks.
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6 days ago
Hi, my name is OneItsStarted and lately I've been trying to make an exile-mill deck for EDH, but I haven't been able to figure out an efficient way to do it.
I really don't want to make a typical Phenax, God of Deception style mill deck, as a decent number of people at my LGS play re-animator decks. So far I have looked at Oona, Queen of the Fae, Circu, Dimir Lobotomist , and Jeleva, Nephalia's Scourge.
Any tips on building a somewhat competitive deck for the archetype or one of the commanders would be appreciated, especially so if anyone has any experience with this archetype.
1 week ago
If you splash black, you can run Phenax, God of Deception as your win con.
1 week ago
So to give you an update I did run a small 3 way game tonight with some changes done to my Meren deck against Nazahn, Revered Bladesmith and Phenax, God of Deception It came down to what I feel was a bad call where Nazahn was equipted with a bunch of equipment at the same time and I missed being able to activate my Icy Manipulator to keep it from attacking for 22 points of commander damage with Myriad which won the game. The person playing it had equipped Swiftfoot Boots as part of it's equiptment along with 4 other pieces of equiptment at the same time so it had Shroud and I couldn't tap it. Normally I would have been able to tap it in response to the equipment being equipped but due to a timing snafu and how the payer equipped everything at once I just let it go but I gotta admint I'm a little salty about it..Phenax on the other hand was completely shut out and was just collecting mana and watching the battle between me and Nazahn. The deck definately plays a lot different than it use to with the changes I made however I am still missing some of the key pieces I want to have in it to make it really speed up. I didn't get a single mana dork as a drop or Cryptolith Rite and found that the biggest amount of damage I was doing was by using Entomb + Eternal Witness + Phyrexian Altar and was constantly pulling things into my graveyard to pull them back with Meren. I was constantly running some sort of - counters to kill indestructible creatures this way which kept things at a stalemate for roughly 4 hours...for 1 match..I was just getting things really under control and could have pulled ahead within the next few rounds as I started cycling Army of the Damned + Dictate of Erebos + Phyrexian Altar and was keeping the board whiped clean...In fact I was going to tron myslef with Vorinclex, Voice of Hunger who was in my graveyard and would have been put into the battlefield on my next turn. Instead of being a tool about it though I just told the other player that next time they equip a bunch of things all a once they should instead equip them one at a time and ask if they resolve or if there are responses at each stage as a courtesy. But anyhow that was tonight's showing and I will have to continue with the changes and let you know how it evolves....I gotta say though it still seems a little clunky to me...and like it's always fighting from behind against faster decks...but maybe its just that I'm not playing it right or that it just needs more streamlining from where it is now...Here is the current list. http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/plunder-the-graves-upgrade-30-stax/
1 week ago
A really cool list! As far as reccomendation goes, I've made a list of cards I would consider when making a Dimir Mill deck. I've included a short explanation to all the cards to express my opinion on them!
Mind Grind has the potential to mill a lot, especially in the late game!
Sanity Grinding is pretty cool and can screw someone up if you get a lot of blue mana symbols.
Dire Undercurrents, while useless by itself, can quickly become a nuisance if it sticks on the board for multiple turns.
Ghastlord of Fugue gets in whether your opponents like it or not. In addition to hitting for at least 4 a turn, you get to unconditionally exile the best cards in your opponents' hands.
Lich Lord of Unx gets pretty good as a mana sink in the late game. In the early game, he can sit back and spawn chump blockers. This card might not be the best in your current deck though, as it requires a focus on Zombies to become good. But I mentioned it anyway so that you know that this card exists.
Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker is pretty good when he gets in. He doesn't have the most impressive body, but he mills at least 4 cards upon dealing combat damage to a player.
Nightveil Specter works in a similar manner to Mirko. However you can actually play the cards exiled with it. Note that you can't spend mana as it was of any color to cast the exiled cards!
Oona, Queen of the Fae is dumb and people are going to hate you forever if you play her. The hate is justified though, as she has a really strong milling ability and can clog up the board with tokens. Hated or not, she is very strong!
Perplex might not be the best counterspell out there, but it can trip an opponent up. It also has the strange but useful Transmute ability that lets you tutor for a card with the same CMC as Perplex. Note that while this card is an Instant in itself, you can only Transmute as a Sorcery!
Memory Plunder lets you cast any instant or sorcery in your opponents' graveyards. It even is a spell that lets you cast sorceries at instant speed! Imagine having access to instant speed In Garruk's Wake and Time Stretch!
Havengul Lich allows you to cast creatures from any graveyard and copies their activated abilities until end of turn. Just imagine reanimating a Helldozer and suddenly being able to kill all the lands! Note that just like Nightveil Specter, you can't spend mana as if it was of any color to cast the creatures!
Isleback Spawn is a bomb, no doubt about that! If your milling plan is going as it should be, this Kraken becomes a gigantic 8/16 for 7 mana! It even has Shroud to protect itself. This card is one of Phenax's best friends, especially when its toughness is 16.
Sire of Stagnation is a very good creature for these kind of decks. It doesn't even really need to do anything, it just sits there and diminishes your opponents' decks two cards at a time. In the worst case, it eats a removal spell or a counterspell. Its nice toughness is appreciated by Phenax. Note that the draw ability is not a "may"! You may find yourself having to discard if it gets out of hand. Should this card seem interesting to you, then it might be a good idea to include cards that increase your hand size, such as Reliquary Tower
Lastly Tree of Perdition has the power to put an opponent within kill range. Is your opponent playing lifegain and sitting safely on a three digit life total? Not anymore! In addition, it combos really well with Phenax, God of Deception!
I hope some of these cards seem interesting and that they help you with your deck! :)