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Phenax, God of Deception
Legendary Enchantment Creature — God
As long as your devotion to blue or black is less than 7, Phenax isn't a creature
Creatures you control have " (Tap) target player puts top X cards of his or her library into his or her graveyard, where X is that creature's toughness"
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Phenax, God of Deception Discussion
2 weeks ago
I've only had one game so far, and it went pretty well. The game I played involved: Gaddock Teeg, Sliver Overlord, Edgar Markov, and Phenax, God of Deception. To be honest, the Phenax player pretty much won me the game by milling so much of my deck. They didn't see anything coming until I Replenished everything after a Cyclonic Rift and Eldrazi Chromium took out two players in a row, thanks to Karn's Temporal Sundering. The other two scooped after saccing four lands to Annihilator while I still had a fully stacked Chromium.
My meta involves a lot more aggro though, whereas yours looks like it spans the spectrum. I can't say I disagree with the premise, which is why there is still plenty of control in my Chromium deck. I don't play blue and white without making sure that I control the tempo of the game. :-D I still want to tweak it though. There's nothing wrong with an Auratron Aggro/control deck, you just have to find the right balance for your meta.
2 weeks ago
Oh wow! Can you tell me more about this infinite loop? In my deck there are already some.
the ones that I know are these, though I don't use all of them:
- Phenax, God of Deception + Eater of the Dead;
- Phenax, God of Deception + Thousand-Year Elixir (or any haste provider, which Dimir doesn't have) + Undead Alchemist;
- Duskmantle Guildmage + Mindcrank + any mill "starter";
- Fleet Swallower/Traumatize + Keening Stone/Fraying Sanity;
- Junktroller/Hinder/Spell Crumple/Ether Well + Tunnel Vision;
- Infinite mana + Mind Grind;
3 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
I love this deck! Mill was always a favorite strategy of mine, ever since I lost my first game against a stranger by that cause. It became my first commander deck with Phenax, God of Deception, but I could see this working amazingly to be Bant mill, which are two things I thought would never go together.
3 weeks ago
Phenax, God of Deception or even Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker would make for better commanders. Lazav, Dimir Mastermind. He has a cool ability and all, but it’s not good enough to warrant being a mill deck’s commander.
4 weeks ago
There are some infinite combos with Grinding Station, but that requires Artifact creatures.
Halimar Excavator only works with allies.
Thassa's Devourer for enchantment creatures.
1 month ago
1 month ago
Phenax, God of Deception gives creatures an ability to tap and mill a target player for X, where X is that creatures toughness.
If a player activates the mill ability of a creature where X is 10, and in response another player plays Turn to Frog what is the outcome?
Does the Turn to Frog resolve turning the creature into a 1/1 resulting in a mill effect of one card?
Does the Turn to Frog resolve turning the creature into a 1/1, but the mill ability would resolve resulting in a 10 card mill?
Does the Turn to Frog resolve turning the creature into a 1/1 negating the ability?
I'm almost positive the third outcome is incorrect, but I'm unsure as to the first two.
In addition, if the creature is tapped thus activating a 10 card mill, would a spell like Vraska's Contempt in response destroy the creature resulting in a 0 card mill because the creatures toughness does not exist on the battlefield, or would the tapped ability resolve resulting in a 10 card mill regardless?
In other words, is the tapped ability dependent on the creatures toughness at the time of activation or at the time the ability resolves?
Thanks for the help!