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Opulent Palace Discussion
2 weeks ago
For those unaware of the Pokémon TCG, the term "delta" refers to delta species that debuted in 2005. Some of the card-concepts typically associated in one color were color shifted to a different color to shake-up well established color themes and provide unique gameplay experiences.
Delta Commander or Planar Chaos EDH in MTG terms is to establish a game experience that accomplishes the same style of play noted above. Many players over the years have expressed how they wish a certain commander had color x instead of color y or that a different general was missing a color keeping it from reaching it's full potential or other players have expressed interest in a commander's unique abilities yet disliked the color combination it was associated with. Delta commander rectifies these desires and greater customization freedoms while still maintaining the importance of color identity found in a standard commander game.
Delta Commander mirrors the rules of standard EDH with a few simple rule changes. Decks are still 100 card singleton, 40 life each, 21 command damage is lethal, etc. etc. To color shift a deck you use the general that interests you and then you pick only 1 of the 10 lands listed below.
The land selected will represent the "Domain" your general resides in. The domain is not restricted by your general's color identity and will represent the color shift of your deck. When starting a game the Domain and your General will both start in the command zone indicating to your opponents what colors you are restricted to and vice versa for knowing what colors your opponents are running.
Color identity will work a little different in games:
-The color identity of your General will restrict you on what lands you can play.
-The color identity of your Domain will restrict you on what nonland cards you can play.
As you may have surmised players will be able to play their Domain from the command zone in order to help cast spells outside of their General's color identity. This makes the domain special since your other lands will only produce the colors of your general's color identity, which adds more depth to deck building as players will have to compromise for the right balance of on-colored and off-colored spells used in their deck.
EXAMPLE: Say Baral, Chief of Compliance is your General and Frontier Bivouac is his Domain. The lands in your deck can not contain any mana symbol other than and the spells in your deck can not contain any symbol other than . Hence in order to cast the Red and Green spells in this deck you'll be limited to just the Frontier Bivouac in order to cast them.* (*Typically there would be other ways to cast those spells, but the Domain will be the primary source due to it's consistency of being readily available in your command zone.)
Now that you're familiar with how a deck is color-shifted there are only three more rules to keep in mind to accommodate these changes.
.) The Domain will share many of the same properties as your commander such as being a able to play it from the Command Zone and being able to place it back in the Command Zone if the land is to change zones. There are only two exceptions: 1.) you can not play your Domain if you played another land that turn, and 2.) your Domain will not have a command tax to pay since lands aren't ever cast. (The land enters tapped which makes up for the lack of taxation.)
.) Another key difference is if any source (be it a land or mana-rock-etc.) is to produce one or more mana of any color instead that source will only produce any color of mana in your commander's color identity. This applies to cards such as Mana Confluence, Mana Bloom, Gilded Lotus, etc. This rule is in place to put greater emphasis on your Domain being the chief hallmark to casting off-color spells with. Do note however since your domain restricts the color identity of your spells you are allowed to use signets and other mana-producers that fit into your domain's color identity even if they're outside of your general's color identity.
EXAMPLE: If my General is and my Domain is I could still run cards like Fire Diamond, Moss Diamond, Talisman of Impulse, Gruul Signet for color fixing, but cards like Mana Confluence and Darksteel Ingot would only generate blue mana. This is so the Domain retains some level of importance being used in the deck.
.) The last additional rule to this format is unlike all your other lands your Domain will have "Protection from lands." This means your Domain can never be the target of effects from the likes of Strip Mine, Wasteland, or Ghost Quarter due to their abusability with other cards such as Crucible of Worlds or Life from the Loam. Do note this does not stop the effects of cards like Sinkhole, Blood Moon, or Spreading Seas being used. (Hence the importance of running color-fixing mana rocks.)
You have now read up on the rules of Delta Commander or Planar Chaos EDH. Please keep in mind that when building in this format that your general determines the color identity of your lands and your domain determines the color identity of your spells. While it's possible to have a general and a domain that share no colors your deck will likely run a lot better if your domain shares at least one or two colors with your general.
Bonus: If you were to build a deck for this format what general and domain would you build your deck around? What off-color synergies would you include in your deck?
3 weeks ago
So I actually play Zombies is Modern as well, and I have some critiques for your list:
You want more one-drops. You are an aggro deck, so only 4 Gravecrawler aint gonna cut it. You want some number of Dread Wanderer and Cryptbreaker, Diregraf Ghoul if you want even more than that. I personally run 4 of each, besides Diregraf Ghoul where I run 3.
Your noncreature spells are gonna be relatively ineffective. Youre playing an aggro deck, you would never want to play a Rancor when you could cast another zombie. Same with Altar's Reap, you certainly dont want to get rid of one of your creatures, youd rather just play another creature. Ghoulcaller's Chant is fineeeeee, another zombie would probably be better, but I dont hate the card.
The manabase is a little meh. Im pretty sure running 4 Cavern of Souls, 4 Unclaimed Territory, and some number of Mutavault will be worth while. At the very least cut the Opulent Palace, you dont want lands that come in tapped.
And finally, there are two final cards I'd like to suggest. The deck will probably play completely fine without them, but they're cards I run in my list and are arguable 2 of the best cards in the list... those cards being Aether Vial and Relentless Dead. They're both very strong cards and worth including.
I like the list though, your list brought a lot of cards to my attention that might be worth while running in my list!
1 month ago
Experiment Kraj [very important]
Quillspike [very important]
Vizier of Remedies [very important]
3 months ago
Here's some land recommendations, because playing 5 colors is hard without the right lands:
Ancient Ziggurat, Command Tower, Crystal Quarry, Frontier Bivouac (run all 10 of the tri-colored tap lands, they're cheap and good), Mystic Monastery, Nomad Outpost, Opulent Palace, Rupture Spire, Sandsteppe Citadel, Savage Lands, Seaside Citadel, Shimmering Grotto, Sliver Hive, Transguild Promenade.
You should drop all your basic lands down to 1 of each type. Running 5x Vivid lands and 10x Tri-color lands, and 1 of each basic land takes up 20 land slots. The rest should be land that some how taps for all colors.
I run a pretty low budget Slivers list, with Hivelord as the commander as well. Here's some cards that could up the power level of your deck without crazy monetary investment:
Primal Rage and Shared Triumph offer buffs to all of your Slivers. Spirit of Resistance makes you invincible if you have Sliver Hivelord in play. Unearth is a solid way to return some of your best Slivers to play after removal. Harsh Sustenance is solid removal with the added benefit of life gain. Obelisk of Urd is a good way to pump up your Slivers. Domri Rade is a planeswalker that works really well with Slivers. Gives you consistent removal as well as draw. The ultimate makes it real difficult to lose games.
3 months ago
maybe try the 8 tri-tap lands? just a suggestion, and if you dont know them they are Arcane Sanctum Seaside Citadel Jungle Shrine Crumbling Necropolis Savage Lands Mystic Monastery Nomad Outpost Sandsteppe Citadel Opulent Palace Frontier Bivouac
4 months ago
4 months ago
Coiling Oracle - Not always ramp, but always replaces itself in terms of card advantage. Compare it to an Elvish Visionary or a Baleful Strix that are good in the first place and you'll notice that even if it isn't guaranteed ramp, it's still a gamble that's worth it.
Farseek - Great colorfixing when you have dual lands, and you want a couple of CMC2 ramp to get the ball rolling.
Nature's Lore - You need shocks for this to be worth it in a three-color deck, otherwise it's too inconsistent for colorfixing.
Deathrite Shaman - One of the best manadorks available if you have fetches and/or you run self-mill, since it ramps you in the early game and can grave hate in the late game.
Chromatic Lantern - You don't need a lot of mana rocks when you're in green, but this one's utility is good enough when you're 3+ colors. Can help with activating Tasigur, the Golden Fang more, especially when you have Training Grounds out and colored mana is the limiting factor.
Harrow - Instant speed ramp is good if you want to save mana for counterspells/removal, and land sacrifice is good for self-mill/recursion synergies.
Realms Uncharted - Technically not ramp but it's both card advantage and dumping stuff into the graveyard, while fetching your 4 strongest lands and forcing your opponent to choose between bad and worse.
Fork in the Road - Not land ramp, not very impactful, but dumping stuff into the graveyard while colorfixing ain't too bad. Maybe a bit sad to get this one back with Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability, but that's what delve is for.
Exploration - It's ramp that requires you to have a lot of card draw or things like Crucible of Worlds and Oracle of Mul Daya, but can lead to stupidly fast starts of dumping your hand and recovering with Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability. Definitely stronger than Burgeoning.
Animate Dead - One of the best reanimation spells in the game by far.
Victimize - Even if you're not focused on reanimation, getting back 2 creatures for only 3 mana and something to sacrifice is very often worth it. The more self-mill you have, the more targets you get.
Regrowth - The original Eternal Witness which is cheaper but less abusable. Very good in conjunction with Tasigur, the Golden Fang since you can force your opponent to choose between the things you want or Regrowth which lets you get what you want.
Seasons Past - Card advantage recursion, very good in general and even better when self-milling to give yourself lots of choices.
Grapple with the Past - Instant speed recursion for 2 that also dumps stuff into your graveyard.
Nyx Weaver - Not an amazing creature, but can be dropped early as a blocker and some slow value self-mill only to be used as recursion in the late game.
Fact or Fiction - Drawing the best 1-4 cards out of your top 5 at instant speed for 4 mana is makes this one of the best cards for one-off card draw, especially when the rest end up in your graveyard for delve/recursion.
Baleful Strix - Only replaces itself in terms of card draw, but a flying deathtouch blocker for 2 mana is a very annoying deterrent.
Windfall - Very good card advantage if your game plan is to dump your hand such as with Burgeoning and Exploration effects and fills up your graveyard with the things you discard, but risky since it can help opponents with draw/recursion/reanimation.
Whispering Madness - Extra copy of Windfall if you want one. Cipher can be good if you have stupid amounts of mana for dumping your hand, but not worth one more mana if you're deciding between this or Windfall.
Necropotence - Not great in 3+ colors where it gets hard to cast and not really necessary when you have blue, but still stupidly good with enough life and mana.
The Gitrog Monster - Very strong draw engine since he triggers off of sacrifice, discard and mill. Also a 6/6 deathtouch for 5.
Pull from Tomorrow/Stroke of Genius/Blue Sun's Zenith - Lots of card draw if you have lots of mana, great when you're ramping hard and dumping your hand. Pull from Tomorrow is the best one for card draw because it digs one deeper, but the other two can mill someone to death with enough mana.
Taigam, Sidisi's Hand - CMC5 and needs a turn to do anything is not great, but the filtering and creature removal is alright if he survives.
Lim-Dl's Vault - Incredibly good card selection. It's card disadvantage in itself but you can easily dig through your library until you get a pile that gives you card advantage plus playable cards.
Sensei's Divining Top - One of the best cards for card selection. Use its first ability before using Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability to help force certain cards into your hand, then use the first ability again to dig even deeper into your library.
Sylvan Library - Very good card for card selection, becomes stupidly good with lifegain and/or fetches for shuffling.
Satyr Wayfinder - Cheap way to get stuff into your graveyard, sorcery speed but creatures are more abusable than instants/sorceries.
Compulsive Research - Great source of card selection since 1. you get to draw before discarding, 2. you can discard anything from your hand, not just from the three you drew, 3. it can be card advantage if you discard the right thing.
Thirst for Knowledge - Like Compulsive Research except a lot better because it's instant speed, and slightly worse because you'll have more opportunity to discard and recur lands compared to artifacts.
Beast Within - Can target anything, so one of the best pieces of spot removal in the format.
Sultai Charm - Very flexible removal or decent card filtering, one of the best charms available.
Reclamation Sage - Removal on legsthat can chump block, be cloned, reanimated etc.
Krosan Grip - Very strong removal, can't be countered and can stop problem cards like Oblivion Stone and Necropotence.
Murderous Cut - Creature removal for 1 is very good, as long as you have enough stuff to delve away.
Abrupt Decay - Slightly too restrictive in commander unless you play in a combo heavy meta, but still worth considering.
Nature's Claim - Removal for 1 is very very good. It's arguable whether this or Krosan Grip is better if you can only choose one.
Tetzimoc, Primal Death - Not very good, but pretty fun and good value if you have a lot of mana.
Vraska the Unseen - Unconditional removal: good. Sorcery speed for 5 mana: bad. Planeswalker with 2 loyalty left after you removed something: not great, but fun.
Scavenging Ooze - Targeted grave hate for cheap is great.
Toxic Deluge - The best creature board wipe in the format, bar none.
Pernicious Deed - One of the best board wipes in your colors. Can be asymmetrical if you have the most expensive stuff, can kill tokens for 0, can hold the table hostage by waiting with blowing it up.
Decree of Pain - CMC8 makes this not great, but the card draw makes it worth considering. Cycling is also good as an instant speed uncounterable board wipe against early aggro.
Torment of Hailfire - Generic big mana wincon, can still be pretty painful even if you don't cast it for X=lots.
Crop Rotation - Card disadvantage since you sacrifice a land, but being able to fetch any utility land at instant speed for 1 is crazy for potential. Bojuka Bog, Tectonic Edge, Alchemist's Refuge, Cabal Coffers/Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Thespian's Stage etc. Can compensate for the card disadvantage while colorfixing with Myriad Landscape/Blighted Woodland.
As Foretold - Not a very good card, but it's pretty fun to use if you get the ball rolling, especially since you can spend any extra mana on your commander once you get to freecast spells. Even better with cheap instants.
Propaganda - Generic protection, both against token decks and to avoid becoming the path of least resistance in multiplayer.
Isochron Scepter - Absurd value with stuff like Brainstorm, absurdly annoying with counterspells. It runs a fairly high risk of being a dead card in your hand though, since you won't be running lots of CMC<=2 instants. Very sad to get from Tasigur, the Golden Fang's ability with an empty hand.
Faerie Artisans - Relatively underrated card. You get the ETBs of anything your opponents cast/flicker/reanimate/etc. plus a chump blocker/attacker of varying quality.
Mirage Mirror - Incredibly strong card, even though it may not look like it at first glance. Copy a Cabal Coffers/Zendikar Resurgent for lots of mana, copy creatures like Arcanis the Omnipotent/Etali, Primal Storm and you get to tap/attack immediately as long as the artifact has been in play for a turn, copy creatures like Oracle of Mul Daya/Kess, Dissident Mage and get cheap value, scare off attackers by saying "I can copy the biggest dude on the board and block you", dodge removal/board wipes by copying a land etc. Extra fun if you run Dark Depths.
Avenger of Zendikar - Generic wincon, but still a very good wincon.
Exsanguinate - Generic big mana wincon, can save you from an early aggro death even if you don't cast it for X=lots.
Telepathy - Not a good card, but it's pretty fun for politics and mind games.
Assault Suit - Kind of fun multiplayer card, but not very good since your opponents aren't forced to attack with the equipped creature. Can cause some funny commander damage blowouts if your politics game is strong.
Psychosis Crawler - Generic but slow wincon, decent creature to clone.
Dark Depths - If you're already running support cards for Cabal Coffers, you have most of the stuff for a decent Dark Depths package like land tutors and Thespian's Stage (plus Marit Lage is cool). Throw in a Vampire Hexmage for a potential turn 3 20/20 to really set the pace of the game.
Hinterland Harbor/Woodland Cemetery - Checklands are great and not that expensive, and stay great even as your manabase improves. These two will get reprints in Dominaria, might want to wait for them.
Temple of Malady - The last scryland, you have the other two.
Cephalid Coliseum - Good for card filtering late game, comes in untapped early.
Choked Estuary - Not the best cycle of lands, but at least it's better than lands that always come in tapped. Doesn't exist in your other colors yet.
Golgari Rot Farm/Simic Growth Chamber - These are not that bad budget lands since they give you virtual card advantage at the cost of speed, but having three of them in a three-color can sometimes be too slow and awkward. If you want to keep them, then buy Dimir Aqueduct.
Halimar Depths - I would not use this over a basic land in your deck because you don't have lots of lands to find with your ramp, and the upside is not big enough for a tapped land that only produces one color.
Evolving Wilds/Terramorphic Expanse - These are a bit slow but they're good for colorfixing and they're great for Ramunap Excavator and Splendid Reclamation, as long as you have enough basics in your library.
Lumbering Falls - Manlands are not really worth it in commander unless you're have a lot of equipment, combat damage triggers or creature sacrifice.
Reliquary Tower - This is not a definite cut, but you don't want too many colorless lands in a three-color deck. Reliquary Tower is only necessary if you have lots of card draw and very little graveyard interaction, but since you have plenty of graveyard recursion, you should be fine without it.
Tectonic Edge - It's a good card, but I prefer using Ghost Quarter because you don't need to have any mana ready to be able to use it. Wasteland and Strip Mine are both strictly better, but expensive.
Temple of the False God - Not that great in three-color decks.
Jace, Memory Adept - Milling opponents with this guy is stupid, milling yourself is kind of decent but at 5 mana it's bad.
Kiora, the Crashing Wave - If you want it for the -1 (which is pretty good), just run Explore instead. Using it for the ultimate is stupid since your opponents have 3 turns to handle it and you're not getting any value from the +1.
Tamiyo, the Moon Sage - The -2 is not the worst, but at 5 mana and when you're blue it's not really worth it. Same as with Kiora, the Crashing Wave, you will never reach the ultimate against competent players and the +1 doesn't really give you any value. This one's worth some money, so sell it and buy better cards.
Archfiend of Depravity - The effect is not terrible but in practice it's less impactful than it seems. You can usually play around the ability or remove the creature if it's a huge problem.
Beastcaller Savant/Deathcap Cultivator/Elves of Deep Shadow - This deck has no reason running mana dorks other than Birds of Paradise and Deathrite Shaman, at most. Elves of Deep Shadow is not awful since it's 1 mana and colorfixes, but still not worth it.
Dimir Doppelganger - The main advantage to clones is that you can abuse strong ETBs, which this clone can't. Decent if you're two colors, not really if you're three.
Edric, Spymaster of Trest - This guy will more often enable your opponents than it will help you. Terrible card unless you're spamming tokens.
Forgotten Creation - Dumping cards into the graveyard is not bad, but CMC4, only in upkeep and discarding before drawing is awful.
Kruphix, God of Horizons - You need a lot of big mana dumps or a draw/go playstyle to justify using Kruphix, God of Horizons. Your commander is a mana dump but your limiting factor is going to be colored mana.
Solemn Simulacrum - Not awful, but there are better alternatives for ramp when you're in green. Could be worth keeping if you run a lot of clones for slightly better value compared to something like Wood Elves or Cultivate.
Torrent Elemental - Can blow out an opponent when you have a big board, but is very telegraphed and isn't very impactful on its own. Use Pathbreaker Ibex if you want better blowouts. The exile ability isn't great even if you delve him away, since you're still casting a mediocre creature for 5 mana.
Yahenni, Undying Partisan - Good when your deck is based around sacrifice and reanimation, but very out of place here.
Bounty of the Luxa - Slow ramp or slow card draw, but you can't choose which one you need right now. Better to use proper ramp and proper draw spells instead.
Deadbridge Chant - You can keep this if you like it because it's pretty fun. However, the random aspect and lack of impact until your upkeep is a bit too unreliable for 6 mana.
Perplex - Cards that give the opponent the final choice are generally bad, and this one isn't even good for its mana cost.
Spell Pierce - Good in faster combo-heavy metas, but not quite reliable enough in slower metas.
Unravel the Aether - This card is actually very good since it ignore indestructible, but it's worth considering if you'd rather have Nature's Claim for the mana cost or Krosan Grip for the utility, since I don't think you have room for all three in the deck.
In Garruk's Wake - Good card when you have the mana to use it, but 9 mana is a lot.
Increasing Ambition - I generally recommend against using tutors since games become very samey with them, but even then there are a lot of better tutors out there than this one.
Praetor's Grasp - Not as fun as Gonti, Lord of Luxury since looking at top 4 is more exciting than picking the best card for the situation, not as flexible either since you need the correct colors to cast things.
Dimir Signet/Golgari Signet/Simic Signet - Signets are good since they're cheap, can be used immediately and colorfix you, but in a slower meta they're prone to get board wiped away compared to land ramp, so they're not that great when you're green.
Gilded Lotus - People generally don't use spot removal on mana rocks, but the big and efficent ones like Gilded Lotus and Thran Dynamo sometimes do. You can use the mana immediately, but otherwise it's not much better than an Explosive Vegetation.
4 months ago
Hey, I suggest cutting a few Slivers, 46 is a lot, for some staple Commander removal and creature tutors that help you to find the important Slivers: Gemhide, Heart, Crystalline and Hivelord before you get Overlord into play.
You could cut 12 or more of the less good Slivers and be fine since Overlord is a Silver tutor then you don't have to focus as much having a huge number of Silvers you can instead play the best Slivers because you can tutor for them.
Consider adding these cards:
- Worldly Tutor
- Eladamri's Call
- Cyclonic Rift
- Anguished Unmaking
- Swords to Plowshares
- Beast Within
- Supreme Verdict
- Distant Melody
- Cryptolith Rite
33 total lands is on the low side for a budget five color manabase. This amount of land would be fine with the Fetch land/Shock land interaction because this gives you plenty of mana fixing, but you're not playing these lands. I suggest 38 total lands, few more Basic lands and replacing the Vivid lands with Tri lands. Tri lands also ETB tapped, but once they untap they can be used for the rest of the game to make one color of three colors to choose from. Vivid lands only give you two turns of any color.
Less good Slivers to consider cutting:
- Belligerent Sliver
- Cautery Sliver
- Constricting Sliver
- Darkheart Sliver
- Hunter Sliver
- Psionic Sliver
- Quilled Sliver
- Sidewinder Sliver
- Spined Sliver
- Opaline Sliver
- Magma Sliver
- Talon Sliver
A couple of Slivers that have good abilities who I don't see here:
Patriarch's Bidding although not low budget is great to get back all Slivers from the graveyard reanimating them, putting them directly into play. Aphetto Dredging is another option to get back multiple Slivers from the graveyard and put them into your hand. Living Death is another strong card to reanimate Silvers.
Good luck with your deck.