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Creature — Skeleton Troll
Golgari Grave-Troll enters the battlefield with a +1/+1 counter on it for each creature card in your graveyard.
, Remove a +1/+1 counter from Golgari Grave-Troll: Regenerate Golgari Grave-Troll.
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Golgari Grave-Troll Discussion
1 week ago
Hey there, I have a few suggestions:
Phyrexian Reclamation to replace/supplement Vampiric Rites. Why get a random card from your deck when you can get exactly what you need from your graveyard? Other interesting card draw/tutor/recycle cards for you to consider are Survival of the Fittest, Oversold Cemetery (very good for you, I think!), Fauna Shaman, and Evolutionary Leap.
Cards that care about how many creatures are in your graveyard or all graveyards, such as Golgari Grave-Troll, Nighthowler, Lord of Extinction (counts all cards), and especially Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, who is also a sacrifice outlet AND has built-in recursion.
Eternal Witness, which is a really great card in pretty much any green deck.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
I made a Gitrog EDH deck with the same theme in mind, using Dakmor Salvage to go infinite. Give mine a look -- I feel like it focused much more on the combo than this deck does, as it can combo off as early as turn 4 through cards like Dread Return and Golgari Grave-Troll. Otherwise, upvoted!
2 weeks ago
I would suggest more ramp. Ideally ramp on creatures that sacrifice themselves, yeah? Diligent Farmhand, Dawntreader Elk. Or some fatties who can help ramp/fix early like Krosan Tusker, Shefet Monitor which can cycle to draw you a card, plus either get a land to hand or to the battlefield, all while giving you a bigger body in the grave ready for Meren to use the effect again from hand or straight to the battlefield. Nothing can compare to Sakura Tribe-Elder and Wood Elves, but these guys help you stay creature heavy, feed into synergies, and helps you get to your ~49 mana/ramp sources. I would say you could cut 1-2 basics if you add in diligent and dawntreader at least. I have you at 49.
I don't know how much you like Primal Growth. It's pretty efficient if you are sacrificing a creature a lot of the time and that's feeding into your synergy, and there's even a card like Viridian Emissary who needs to be sacrificed to be useful, but I personally don't run either of those cards just because I'm in Karador (and tutor up Meren) with only 6 basic lands total. Instead I run more self-mill and include the new Ramunap Excavator, with cards like Splendid Reclamation, and Far Wanderings which is always 3 mana for 3 basics. Sure there is more risk in self-mill (make your opponents graveyard hate better) but I find that's less common than not having a sac outlet (Viridian Emissary) and/or needing my only blocker to avoid being beat up on early (Primal Growth). That being said, I think those two can definitely work better for you than me, but I would really like to say how well Splendid Reclamation has done for me, often netting 5+ lands even if cast early (turn 4-6). I feed that engine by using more cards like Ash Barrens, Myriad Landscape, the fetchlands (proxies lel- I hate expensive lands), and unfortunately some G/W lands that you can't run, but also stuff like Gather the Pack, Commune with the Gods, Crop Sigil (This can net you back a land on it's own), Drown in Filth which is removal as well.
These effects can also be found on creatures Mindwrack Demon is a beater and delirium is easy to achieve. Splinterfright, Sewer Nemesis are big X/X beaters who enable themselves to get bigger, Grim Flayer filters your draws and stocks your yard. Of course the dredge spells, four of which I find good enough to run Golgari Grave-Troll, Golgari Thug, Stinkweed Imp, and Life from the Loam. For a bonus when you run this much grave interaction you can use this nifty old creature Keeper of the Dead, oh you'll also want ways to get cards back from your graveyard besides Eternal Witness (my main target often being Splendid Reclamation) I would recommend adding Den Protector, Hag Hedge-Mage, and Greenwarden of Murasa. I find these to be generally better than Magus of the Will unless you've already got 10+ mana.
From your Maybelist I would definitely recommend Fleshbag and Merciless Executioner. Maybe Ashnod's Altar although I find Altar of Dementia to be even better without any infinite mana combos. Grave Pact is of course a house.
Some other random cards I think are include worthy, mostly cards that remove opponents stuff: Caustic Caterpillar, Avatar of Woe, Deathrite Shaman, Reclamation Sage (how could you cut this? lol), Shadowborn Demon. Possibly Oversold Cemetery, Undertaker for more recursion. Hell's Caretaker, Doomed Necromancer, Sheoldred, Whispering One, Animate Dead, Necromancy, Phyrexian Delver for recursion to the battlefield. Fauna Shaman, Traverse the Ulvenwald, Rune-Scarred Demon, Evolutionary Leap, Survival of the Fittest, Jarad's Orders for tutors.
3 weeks ago
I have thoughts...
Deathreap Ritual is strong draw condition in this sort of deck, keep in mind it says "each end step," so it counts opponents' turns too.
Dictate of Erebos is pretty oppressive in G/B, maybe don't run it if you have a sensitive playgroup.
You might have thought Bitterblossom was only for Modern, well you might have been WRONG! It sees play in Legacy too... And it's good here.
Bloodgift Demon is another Phyrexian Arena on a body, so now you can have one that's as pretty on the outside as it is on the inside.
Creeping Renaissance is a pretty slept on mass reanimation card, expect to hear a lot of "What!?"s and "I can't believe I've never seen that one!"s.
Keeping yourself alive is a breeze with Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper in play; it's some of the best life-gain in its colors.
Lotleth Troll is a great way to generate dredge without having to actually paying mana. And speaking of dredge...
We did just get Liliana, Death's Majesty though, and if I'm being honest, she's a much better fit than Liliana, the Last Hope. She feeds your graveyard as her +1 instead of a -2 while making a token, and her reanimate ability brings it straight to the field instead of your hand.
And, in a little over a week, you can pick up a Ramunap Excavator because now we have another card that does that.
3 weeks ago
What you might be more likely to miss are the B&R updates. This is just off the top of my head.
Splinter Twin, Gitaxian Probe, Summer Bloom, Treasure Cruise, Dig Through Time, and Golgari Grave-Troll are banned (of which only Treasure Cruise probably needed the ban). Sword of the Meek and Ancestral Vision are unbanned.
1 month ago
Why have you not taken Golgari Grave-Troll out of the deck with his recent banning? You also mentioned not liking Lotleth Troll yet now he is in the deck. Might I consider leaving updates during large changes? It would make things much easier to comprehend. Anyway, cool deck!
1 month ago
Hi Guint!! Here are some suggestions I think you could utilize for Ishkanah. So far it looks good!
The things we want to make sure you have in this deck are ways to activate delirium, as well as ways to activate Ish's tribal effects. Let's start with the spiders themselves~
If you can find it I definitely recommend buying a Swarmyard cause what's better than a land that prevents your dudes from dying?
Arachnogenesis Essentially a Fog with an added bonus of giving you a TON of spider tokens. Spider Spawning is also going to be a winner in this deck. Penumbra Spider gives you good value by making another token when it dies. Riptide Replicator is a fun artifact that can make spiders as well... and with all the tokens, a Parallel Lives and Second Harvest would definitely be cards to consider. Also a fan of the underused Parallel Evolution - it even has Flashback! Swarm them with tokens and then drop a Pathbreaker Ibex, Decimator of the Provinces or the ever coveted Craterhoof Behemoth... or you can go the route of Overwhelming Stampede.
Silklash Spider would be a good powerhouse to pick up. It's effect can kill off any flier on the board.
There aren't any other specific "spiders" that are noteworthy, but there are always shapeshifters. My favorite "spiders" are Metallic Mimic and Chameleon Colossus Alternatively you can get a Conspiracy and just make your whole deck into spiders. Then when they all die bring them back with Patriarch's Bidding.
Spiders have especially large butts on them, so Assault Formation can really be powerful. Things that benefit from the high toughness of spiders should also be up for consideration. Ikra Shidiqi, the Usurper, Abzan Beastmaster, Grim Contest, and Kin-Tree Invocation are ones that come to mind immediately.
For a more tribal feel I def recommend trying out Archetype of Endurance and Archetype of Finality as well as Brawn and Filth. Bow of Nylea could be used as an alternative to Archetype of Finality if you so choose. There are also tribal artifacts such as Coat of Arms, Urza's Incubator, Obelisk of Urd and Door of Destinies.
Now onto the Delirium Mechanic. Making sure your own cards into the graveyard can seem counterproductive but a lot of things benefit from it. So first, how do we self mill?
- Deadbridge Chant is a personal favorite. Satyr Wayfinder, Crop Sigil, Grisly Salvage, Mulch, Grapple with the Past, Commune with the Gods, Benefaction of Rhonas, Sudden Reclamation. Stinkweed Imp or anything with Dredge. Golgari Grave-Troll is a popular one.
Now for some super fun cards that benefit from a graveyard presence.
- Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, Lord of Extinction, Deathcap Cultivator, Deathrite Shaman, Traverse the Ulvenwald, Splendid Reclamation, and Meren of Clan Nel Toth. Did you mill a bunch of great cards you want back? Recursion is also a super powerful strategy. Eternal Witness is a Green staple for a reason. Greenwarden of Murasa, Seasons Past, Treasured Find, Animate Dead, Victimize. Sometimes you want to put specific things into the graveyard to fetch with recursion cards, so Entomb, Jarad's Orders, and Buried Alive become like tutors in a sense.
Now lets talk about Black and Green as colors in EDH. Black/Green has a few things that it needs to run undoubtedly. One of its major problems is card draw, so you're definitely going to want to auto-include Harmonize and Phyrexian Arena. I would also consider Lifecrafter's Bestiary.
Removal: Putrefy, Murder, Hero's Downfall, Abrupt Decay, Krosan Grip, Golgari Charm, Toxic Deluge, In Garruk's Wake, Acidic Slime, Beast Within. Dictate of Erebos to be used in conjunction with a sacrifice outlet like Ashnod's Altar (sac your extra tokens for mana!)
Ramp: Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Solemn Simulacrum, Sol Ring, Explosive Vegetation, Thran Dynamo, Commander's Sphere, Golgari Signet, Cryptolith Rite, Harrow, Crop Rotation, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Yavimaya Elder.
The only other thing I want to say about your deck is that you should probably up your land count to at least 36. 30 is usually too little for most EDH decks in my experience. Unless you're going super aggro, you'll find yourself short on a lot of land drops.
If you wanted to upgrade your lands, here are some relatively inexpensive things you could add:
Golgari Rot Farm, Command Tower, Jungle Hollow, Temple of Malady, Woodland Cemetery, Overgrown Tomb, Llanowar Wastes, Tainted Wood, Grim Backwoods, Bojuka Bog, Hissing Quagmire, Temple of the False God, Drownyard Temple, Ghost Quarter, and any lands that Cycle in your colors :)