Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield.
Flashback—Sacrifice three creatures. (You may cast this card from your graveyard for its flashback cost. Then exile it.)
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|Double Masters (2XM)||Uncommon|
|Mystery Booster (MYS1)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Blessed vs. Cursed (DDQ)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2014 (C14)||Uncommon|
|Premium Deck Series: Graveborn (GRV)||Uncommon|
|Time Spiral (TSP)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Latest Decks as Commander
Dread Return Discussion
4 days ago
Thanks for the suggestions.
I hadn't thought of Hermit Druid, but I'm not sure he would do enough with the current mana base. I will keep it in mind for once there are less basics.
Razaketh, the Foulblooded is a great suggestion, I will try to find a place to fit him in.
As far as the buff strategy on Devoted Druid goes, I would probably go with enchantments over a spell again. So Carapace, Street Savvy, and Web would probably get in before Wax. (I just found out about two of those cards while doing a search because I forgot what Carapace was called.)
4 days ago
Have you considered doing an old school Hermit Druid line? With something like Dread Return and Razaketh, the Foulblooded or perhaps the buff strategy with the Devoted Druid you got in there with Wax.
2 weeks ago
Mairsil, the Pretender and Mirror-Mad Phantasm mills your deck. Narcomoeba and Haunted Dead provide creatures for Dread Return to get Necrotic Ooze and then you can set up some combos from there. I forget the exact combos right now.
Also Hell's Caretaker means you can go off on your next upkeep.
2 weeks ago
Hey, very good budget version of Meren.
For the manabase my advice is play an equal amount of Forests and Swamps because you have one drop green mana dorks who you want to be able to consistently play turn one which a Forest is the best land option for the manabase to do that. Having double the amount of Swamps than Forests is problematic when playing one drop mana dorks.
Some budget cards to consider adding:
- Buried Alive
- Jarad's Orders
- Final Parting
- Elves of Deep Shadow
- Talisman of Resilience
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Midnight Reaper
- Deathreap Ritual
- Butcher of Malakir
- Demon's Disciple
- Primal Growth
- Dread Return
- High Market
Buried Alive is excellent to tutor for any three creatures and put them into your graveyard, one of the best cards with Meren. Jarad's Orders and Final Parting are nice budget tutors with Meren. Tutoring for two cards, one goes into your hand and the other being a creature into your graveyard to reanimate/recur with Meren. Elves of Deep Shadow and Talisman of Resilience are low CMC budget ramp upgrades.
Midnight Reaper and Deathreap Ritual are more repeatable draw sources when creatures you control die. Deathreap can draw a lot of cards in multiplayer Commander since morbid can trigger on any players turn as long as any creature died during the turn. Butcher of Malakir is a upgrade for a budget big creature to reanimate with Meren since it's a repeatable source of opponents having to sac a creature they control when any creature you control dies. Demon's Disciple is an upgrade for Merciless Executioner since if an opponent doesn't have a creature, but has a Planeswalker they have to sac a Planeswalker.
Some cards to consider cutting:
- Vivid Marsh
- Vivid Grove
- Merciless Resolve
- Hedron Archive
- Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis
- Kodama's Reach
- Blood for Bones
- Mind Stone
- Commander's Sphere
- Merciless Executioner
- Deathbringer Regent
The Vivid lands are not good lands and even on a budget there's better options. They aren't reliable enough to warrant ETB tapped and even if you have a way to put more counters on them with proliferate I still think they're not worth playing even over more basic lands. Hogaak, Arisen Necropolis is not worth the trouble of casting it or reanimating it. It's just a beater, but you want more than that with high CMC creatures in Commander.
Good luck with your deck.
1 month ago
Hey, thanks for the suggestion and for taking a peek at the deck. However, none of the annihilators in this deck are set up to be hand-cast. It's actually much quicker and reliable to dredge them out using this deck's mechanic; and colorless mana doesn't do a whole lot for any of my quick-play combos. Dread Return is the only creature dredge it could trigger, with Exhume still requiring a Black despite being only 2 CMC.
Purely colorless mana also completely prevents me from casting some of my key early-play Combo cards in the deck such as Putrid Imp and Culling the Weak, as well as some key Support/Backup options such as Unearth and Stromkirk Condemned. For that reason alone I'm not a fan since it could throw off Land ratios too much (I was already apprehensive about Dakmor Salvage going in just because it enters tapped; not having a Black option seems really limiting here)
Not saying they wouldn't help at all, but apart from being more of a mid-game focus (which this deck doesn't really need since it tends to have games in the bag by turn 4 or 5 at the latest) this is also something of a budget deck as a concept so singles like Ancient Tomb are definitely out for me unfortunately. Especially, since as you pointed out, you really want multiples in a deck which runs & relies on them).
If you end up doing a clone build of this deck to playtest and toss some in, I'd still be interested to hear how they work in conjunction with the strategies outlined in the deck description.
1 month ago
@jethstriker: It's decent for a sideboard card in the right meta. I wouldn't use it at a large event like a Grand Prix, but if your local meta is swarming with people playing suspend cards, Fires of Invention, etc.? I'd say go for it. Just imagine the look on your opponent's face when their Living End is staring at two Rolling Vortex.
@Hi_diddly_ho_neighbor: I was just thinking how Ancient Greenwarden is absolutely nuts in Vintage where Bazaar of Baghdad is your best card. Normally, you wouldn't play Ramunap Excavator because it's an awful Dread Return target. But boarding in a 5/7 Ramunap Excavator to laugh at your opponent's Wastelands? O hell yes pump that shit right into my veins!
1 month ago
2 months ago
Well met, young callant! I have some suggestions with your names on them. Such a strange coincidence.
Jests aside, let's do this.
So, I see budget, I see counters, I see mill. Let's start with mill.
One does not simply play a graveyard deck bereft of the following: Satyr Wayfinder finds some lands whiles stocking the bin. Grisly Salvage is morbidly efficient, finding creatures and lands. Winding Way does the forenamed, whereupon it sometimes betrays you (Don't look it in the eye). Grapple with the Past brings stuff back and loads the bin. It feels great. Funeral Rites is fine and straight-forward. Ransack the Lab is cheap whiles bearing efficacy.
If you're feeling betaken to your graveyard chicanery, Perpetual Timepiece does an absolutely lovely job of stocking the bin.
Ahem. DEATH'S OASIS?! It mills, it fills, and eventually it kills. Moreover, it is three to cast, thusly on-theme.
Okay, now counters!
Unto the intrinsic:
Let us protect thine commander! Selfless Spirit is out of budget yet amazing, Saffi Eriksdotter is of a similar role, and Dauntless Bodyguard, along withal Selfless Savior, are budget options for choice.
There are two routes in commander decks (when playing fairly); a low-curve with a foison of card draw or a higher curve with less card draw. Low-curve = more card draw. I'd add Painful Truths, Sign in Blood, Funeral Rites, Ransack the Lab
I am biased, but I put Once Upon a Time in literally all of my green decks. 'Tis most lovely each time I cast the gest.
And therefrom is the finis of my comment. Fare thee well and may fortune betide!