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|Have (7)||Spinalripper , DrLitebur , Mousemke , dplerner , KillDatBUG , sonnet666 , cryptoplasm|
6 hours ago
I gots me a few suggestions. First I'll start with budget options and move into the not-so-budget suggestions.
Budget:Flayer of the Hatebound, Ogre Battledriver, Anger, Dack's Duplicate, Dimir House Guard, Aura Thief (if you play against many Ghostly Prison effects), Falkenrath Aristocrat, Grim Haruspex (omg, get this in here!), Living Death, Metallic Mimic, Venser, Shaper Savant, Urabrask the Hidden, and Jokulhaups (kinda douchey, but very effective).
Not budget: Sneak Attack (should be #1 on your expensive acquire list, it's worth it), Spellskite (redirect the same spell as many times as needed), Mikaeus, the Unhallowed, Phyrexian Altar, Sakashima the Impostor (only clone in mtg that can copy your own commander, double dethrone is gross), Fulminator Mage, Toxic Deluge, and Grave Pact
6 days ago
I run a very similar deck. Feel free to check it out for ideas.
A few cards I'd suggest. Venser, Shaper Savant (another way to get rid of pesky enchantments etc. Gross with sage of fables), Sakashima the Impostor (double dethrone is great, copy Marchesa!), Sadistic Hypnotist (hand hate closes games), Jokulhaups (douchey but extremely effective.), Corpse Augur (life loss + card draw on an aggressive body), Dimir House Guard (finds sneak attack or it's a sac outlet, win/win.), Disciple of Bolas (a little lifegain is needed), Falkenrath Aristocrat (hastey sac outlet is gud), Fulminator Mage, Gray Merchant of Asphodel (alt win-con and emergency abusable lifegain), Grim Haruspex (omg why isn't this in here?),
1 week ago
The answer is: Superfriends is not a cEDH viable archetype. There's a reason why cEDH decks don't have average converted mana costs of 4.02, and the worst cards in your deck will typically be the Planeswalkers. So, you may not want it to count, but this is like asking how to beat Doomsday/Ad Nauseam Zur with Isamaru, Hound of Konda. Outside of a few hatebears you'll have to mulligan to, you have absolutely no game vs FC Tazri, Doomsday Zur, Grixis Storm, and more.
To give actual advice that may help, though, and not just be contrary:
The best Super Friends deck I've ever seen was a Narset, Enlightened Master build. Yeah, it had no Doubling Season, but it also didn't have to wait until t3 or t4 before it did literally anything at all (what deck wants to pay 5 for Tamiyo when 5 mana gets you Ad Nauseam?). The guy would routinely cast a few Planeswalkers and extra turn spells, and then finish off with Jokulhaups, Devastation, Obliterate, and the like.
The deck was high variance (versus Zur/Tazri/Storm etc. which can consistently win on turns 3-5 if unimpeded), but it was able to race tier 2 Commanders fairly well if he mulliganed to the right cards.
Ramos's mana cost is too high to be a 'storm' type Commander in cEDH, though he can do some cute stuff, and that holds true for Super Friends as well because he requires additional support outside of just casting him (IE, casting a bunch of low cost spells to build up the mana, which Planeswalkers are contradictory toward this gameplan), whereas Narset is just cast + swing. Yeah, you'll lose Doubling Season and every good green Walker, but you gain a reasonable way to cast Jokulhaups on the fourth/fifth turn which, if no one has won the game, will definitely set people back. An active Tezzeret and Narset Walker or Mindsculptor after destroying everything and taking extra turns is basically better, and you're doing all of it faster.
So that's my vote. Run Narset, extra turn spells, big destruction (Armageddon and its ilk), and lots of hate cards. Cursed Totem will probably be a must because you'll have to mulligan to something like Pyroclasm or lose vs Yisan, Arcum, Sisay, etc., Rest in Peace is solid vs Karador, Breya, etc., I'm a huge fan of Aura of Silence, Stranglehold is always good due to cEDH's reliance upon tutors, Winter Orb, Tangle Wire, and probably like 13-15 mana rocks to get Narset out a couple turns earlier so you can get the train rolling by fourth or fifth turn.
1 week ago
First let me start off with I'm trying to be helpful but it'll probably feel like I'm ripping the deck apart. Some of my advice isn't budget friendly but worth working up to if you like the deck. If you feel like skipping the rest and just checking out my list for ideas... Marchesa, The Roses' Thorn
I've been playing Marchesa for about 3 years now and my deck started out very similar to yours. I had a very high mana curve and a lot of splashy spells and creatures that did a LOT... but they cost a LOT too and my first 3 turns I had nothing to do and I rarely had a turn I could cast more than one spell.
Marchesa excels when you have synergy on board already and still play her on turn 3 or 4. I suggest dropping most of your 5+ cmc cards in favor of cards under 4 cmc like Baleful Strix, Fulminator Mage, Sage of Fables, Grim Haruspex, Yahenni, Undying Partisan, Spellskite (redirect the same spell as many times as needed to drop off the throne), Oona's Blackguard, Metallic Mimic, Phantasmal Image, Phyrexian Metamorph, All 3 signets (in addition to talismans and sol ring), Toxic Deluge, Goblin Bombardment, Necropotence, and Phyrexian Altar.
As far as higher cost spells I'd suggest: Herald of Secret Streams, Gray Merchant of Asphodel, Dack's Duplicate, Ogre Battledriver, Urabrask the Hidden, Grave Pact, Dictate of Erebos, Sneak Attack, and (this one's kinda douchey but amazingly effective) Jokulhaups.
2 weeks ago
3 weeks ago
Price of Glory was a consideration, but I wanted to keep the budget at $100 using my pricing app.
Jokulhaups is sweet but kills Etali (and the best indestructible equipment is $5-10). I want to break parity by only using MLD that leaves Etali alive (so that I can cast spells off of her while denying resources to my opponents).