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2 days ago
Stolen Strategy counts as card draw, otherwise red usually gives cards to everybody or makes you discard. There are some card draw artifacts you could use (tons actually, i'd search "draw a card" / artifact on this site and the gatherer).
1 week ago
Also, try to add Thousand-Year Elixir.
1 week ago
4 weeks ago
Hello ^^ I haven't put my version in tappedout yet, but I'll do it as soon as I can! The changes I tried over your version are minimal for now. I'll list them one by one:
1) in Loyal Apprentice, out Young Pyromancer. The few times I've played pyromancer I haven't been impressed at all, while the apprentice have been an overperformer. Maybe it's a matter of playstyle, but I've come to appreciate haste a lot. I was also considering taking out Thorn of Amethyst so it's probably worth to have pyromancer instead, as cheap token producers are very good in this deck, although I'm still not quite sure if pyromancer scales as well as apprentice as the game goes on; apprentice topthers having haste and flying is huge to push in grenzo triggers.
2) Took off Moggcatcher for Glorybringer. As an standard red player I've been consistently impressed with the dragon. The way I see it, it's a heavy hitter, able to push in damage and get grenzo triggers on late game fast, that sometimes kills stuff. I haven't drawn it yet so I'm gonna consider this a flexible slot, and try some other alternatives over time. Stolen Strategy feels also like a good replacement for moggcatcher, as both are grindy cards.
3) took off Sandstone Oracle for Chandra, Flamecaller. I see why the oracle is here: helps catching up, can't be easily casted with our colorless fast mana, has a nice flying body, and can be quite grindy with Daretti, Scrap Savant or Goblin Welder. However, in my experience it rarely does enough if you are not in a dedicated Daretti deck. 7 mana is a lot and unless you have some player going crazy on the table, the draw etb is not that good if you can't consistently recurr it. The fact that it dies to artifact removal is huge too. Put in Chandra instead cause is 1 mana less, the 0 ability is a very consistent way to get you cards, the tokens she produces have haste and help with grenzo triggers (they are also great sac fodder, and as Spawning Pit has been super good the few times I've play it, I'm super happy to have more psinergy with it), they close games very quickly too. Chandra also is a board wipe in a pinch and very good to have in play when you Jokulhaups. I still haven't got to draw an play the card but as the deck generates lotta tokens to defend her, I feel it's gonna be decent, what do you think?
3) Alternatives to Mishra's Workshop. Put in Temple of the False God cause it felt similar, but it leds to some feel bad moments so I'm considering taking it off. Crystal Vein is always a mana source that can give you a burst when needed, and Scavenger Grounds doesn't ramp you but it's such and easy inclusion to hate on graveyards, something the deck lacks.
General considerations! Man I miss Chaos Warp so much in this deck. It's an answer to Ghostly Prison effects that are very bad for us, walkers that bolt can't hit, indestructible eldrazis, stuff that our damage base removal can't kill... I feel those represent the three things this decks is weaker against: ramp to big creatures strategies, dedicated token strategies (with green) and pillow fort. The last feels less problematic cause generally pillow forts are annoying to everyone on the table so other players are gonna also throw removal at them. But I feel we are kinda hopeless against lotta big dudes cause almost none of our removal can si anything about them and our creatures are to small to trade. Token strategies present a wall of chunk blockers that's hard to attack into, that eventually get very big and ran over you quite easily.
I'm putting cards like glorybringer or chandra in the deck to be able to disrupt those strategies and kill them as quickly as possible. I just wanna as much cards that can act as removal as I can get Xd so I have Mizzium Mortars, Subterranean Tremors and Umezawa's Jitte in my radar. The freaking jitte is in my binder looking at my with puppy eyes asking me to play it, such a great card, does so much! Bolt is the card I'd maybe take off for any of those but I'm still not sure at all. And sorry for the wall of text. I love the deck and I'm putting a lot os thought and work into it :P Tell me what you think. Did you consider any of these cards?
1 month ago
Evacuation to pop off at instant speed right before your creatures come out of suspension might be loony.
Sneak Attack would be good if you do intend to steer away from Eldrazi.
I think more counterspells to assure your threats don't get interrupted is a must especially since this deck requires so much set up to get going. On that note, I'd then bring in Snapcaster Mage and possibly even Torrential Gearhulk since your sorceries have such high value. You might also consider Archaeomancer depending on how highly you value your instants/sorceries.
Chancellor of the Spires is a fun blue fatty, so is Diluvian Primordial, Sphinx Ambassador and as vanilla as Inkwell Leviathan might look, it is super hard to deal with. You could also consider the new card Arcane Artisan to cheat out fatties if Jhoira is uncastable. Also, Timebender could be nice here too.
In summary, I think the deck is very strong but could use some more support in the counterspell department, with a little spell recursion (Snapcaster, Torrential, etc). I would also consider throwing in a bit more mana rock ramp to assure you have enough mana if Jhoira is uncastable. Consider Mind Stone, Thought Vessel andCoalition Relic as the three more important ones, and possibly even Hedron Archive or Commander's Sphere.
I would also say think hard on Obliterate, Jokulhaups, and Decree of Annihilation. I personally think they are great win conditions, but can lead to a lot of the same lines of play which can make games repetitive. I definitely wouldn't say cut them all together because they're a valid strategy to pretty much every Jhoira deck, but play around with the numbers, maybe try out 2 or maybe just one so you're not relying too heavily on them. Just find what feels right.
1 month ago
I used Tenza, Godo's Maul in here for a long time when I first built the deck, and it's a lovely card! I don't really need it anymore because I've got enough swords, but it's a fantastic card for a budget build of a deck like this!
I abhor mass land destruction cards like Armageddon and Cataclysm, at least in decks that don't instantly win when you cast them. For instance, my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck runs Obliterate, Jokulhaups, and Bearer of the Heavens to great success because I'll be the only one left with any permanents, and they're all creatures! In every other deck though, MLD cards are just "win more" cards, and by that I mean that they are only good in a winning position. Blowing up everyone's lands won't help if I don't have a winning board state, so I tend to avoid running them and run cards that turn games around in my favor. Also, things like Cataclysm and Tragic Arrogance tend to be VERY bad for this deck because it's so artifact heavy
1 month ago
1 month ago
Teferi's Protection would be a good call. I notice you run Eerie Interlude and Ghostway, but Teferi's Protection is substantially more protection for the same mana cost.
As someone who has lost after casting Ghostway, I think Teferi's Protection may be worth a look. If someone Jokulhaups + Boros Charms, you don't have to worry about them swinging all out at you and taking you out, among tons of other examples I could use. The downside is it exiles itself so it can't be brought back via Mnemonic Wall, but you have two of this effect for that + Mystical Tutor, so I think you'll do fine.