Mystic Monastery enters the battlefield tapped.
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|Want (3)||bloodmoonhowler , Dragonalex , MisterFamous|
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|Commander 2019 (C19)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2017 (C17)||Uncommon|
|Commander 2016 (C16)||Uncommon|
|Khans of Tarkir (KTK)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Speed vs. Cunning (DDN)||Uncommon|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Mystic Monastery occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.05%
RUW (Jeskai, America): 14.69%
Mystic Monastery Discussion
2 months ago
I mean, the easiest way to improve the deck as I see it is to improve the mana situation, both in the lands and in the rocks. For the lands, I suggest cutting one or two, since if you play more rocks (see below) you'll play faster and still have all the mana you need. Fetch lands (like Scalding Tarn or Windswept Heath ) are the easiest way to improve your mana consistency, but unfortunately they tend to be prohibitively expensive. I suggest running more duals like Shivan Reef , Battlefield Forge , Sea of Clouds , etc. instead of your ETB tapped lands like Mystic Monastery .
With regards to rocks, you're already running two of the best ones ( Sol Ring and Arcane Signet ). However, I've never liked 3-mana mana-rocks like Chromatic Lantern or Jeskai Banner , since in my experience things like Talisman of Progress , Talisman of Creativity , Fellwar Stone etc. are simply better. I'd advise increasing the number of cheap (CMC<=2) mana rocks in your deck, as well as cutting one or two basic lands for the same number of cheap rocks. This'll both speed up your deck in the first few turns AND increase the number of hits you get from your general's attack trigger.
Speaking of the attack trigger, consider Strionic Resonator . I play it in my Ulamog, the Ceaseless Hunger deck, and I've found it to be a pretty good way to press an advantage. Being able to see 8 cards rather than 4 with Narset, Enlightened Master 's trigger seems pretty good.
Depending on your personal theory of ethics, you may wish to consider mass land destruction (MLD) as another method of winning. I personally have no problem with it, but some people might not like it. Anyway, if you want to go that route you should run Armageddon , Cataclysm and (potentially since it's about $100) Ravages of War . Note that Jokulhaups doesn't really work, since it'll kill your general, too.
Wear / Tear is, I think, an auto-include in any deck including Boros colors. It's an extremely efficient method of spot removal.
I've always loved Dack Fayden in EDH. He steals rocks, loots you to where you need to be, and only costs three mana... If you have access to him, I highly advise including him.
Preordain is a good cantrip on par with your Brainstorm and Ponder . While it is admittedly less powerful when it comes to leaving a card you want to cast with Narset on top of your library (since you'd have to scry both to the top), it is a powerful enough turn 1 play that I think you should run it anyway. I have frequently found one-land hands keepable on account of cantrips, and running Preordain will make it that much more likely for you to hit a good opening 7.
The last card I want to mention is Proteus Staff . If you cut all the creatures in your deck except your general (which I honestly think you should strongly consider doing), you can use Proteus Staff to reorder your entire deck. The way it works is this: second main phase, after you've attacked with Narset, Enlightened Master and (hopefully) gotten an extra turn coming to you, you target Narset with the staff's ability. That tucks her to the bottom of your deck, but then immediately finds her again and puts her into play (since she's the only creature in your deck). Because Proteus Staff says to put the other revealed cards on the bottom of your library IN ANY ORDER, you can then put all the other cards in your deck in any order you wish (since your whole deck has been revealed). That means you can stick 4 extra turn spells on top, cast them during your extra turn, rinse and repeat.
Good luck! Hope this helps.
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4 months ago
Hey, looks good for your first Commander deck. You haven't finished the manabase? Nice Ugin, the Spirit Dragon :)
What's the max budget for your deck? I ask because you haven't allocated yet for lands in the manabase. 35x basic lands is not going to work when you want to pay for spells. When playing five colors the manabase and the amount of color fixing you have in your deck is very important. If you don't make these things priority to focus on getting right then your deck will have a difficult time functioning when playing so many colors.
You have a good start by including the budget land ramp spells ( Cultivate , Sakura-Tribe Elder ), but you're going to want a lot more than just these spells for both ramp and more importantly for color fixing. You can build a five color manabase on a budget with basic lands using some dual lands that have interaction with basic lands, Tri lands and other budget lands.
Here's an example:
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Cascading Cataracts
- Ash Barrens
- Evolving Wilds
- Mystic Monastery
- Opulent Palace
- Frontier Bivouac
- Sandsteppe Citadel
- Seaside Citadel
- Nomad Outpost
- Prairie Stream
- Cinder Glade
- Sunken Hollow
- Woodland Cemetery
- Sunpetal Grove
- Dragonskull Summit
- Yavimaya Coast
- Battlefield Forge
- Caves of Koilos
- Llanowar Wastes
- 8x Forest
- 2x Island
- 2x Plains
- 2x Mountain
- 2x Swamp
This example manabase is not ideal by any means, but it's low budget and a starting point for future upgrades. Sunken, Glade or Stream are dual lands that Farseek can search for since they're two different land types. Being able to land ramp with a dual land with Farseek makes Farseek better and helps with color fixing.
A budget manabase like this example can use color fixing from other nonland sources. Signets and other budget mana rocks that can make colored mana and ramp are options.
- Izzet Signet
- Selesnya Signet
- Dimir Signet
- Boros Signet
- Golgari Signet
- Fellwar Stone or Arcane Signet
- Commander's Sphere or Chromatic Lantern
With Signets you can pay for the colorless mana cost with mana from any source such as a land. That mana then turns into two different colors of mana. For example if you have two Signets on the battlefield and two lands then that mana can be four different colors of mana. In this manabase example there's more green sources than others that's because green is the enabler color to help to get all the other colors with land ramp and mana dorks. There's more green than the rest because you consistently want to have green mana in the early game.
- Joiner Adept or Chromatic Lantern
- Paradise Druid or Birds of Paradise
- Faeburrow Elder
- Fertile Ground
Joiner Adept lets you tap lands for any color of mana which is great color fixing when playing five colors. Chromatic Lantern is a more expensive price card that does the same thing and it's better because it also ramps. Faeburrow Elder and Paradise Druid are called mana dorks and either one can tap to make different colors of mana. Faeburrow by itself can tap to make two mana . With Jodah, Archmage Eternal on the battlefield it can make four mana . If you have Jodah and have a permanent on the battlefield that's black then Faeburrow can tap to make all five colors of mana.
Fertile Ground is an example of another source of color fixing/ramp that's different than the rest. It's an aura that enchants a land you control. When the enchanted land is tapped it makes two colors of mana; one mana that the land could produce and another mana of any color you choose.
Color fixing sources that also ramp are better than ones that don't. If you can as the saying goes "kill two birds with one stone" then it can help your deck. Including most cards that can do two different things you want are better than cards that can only do one thing you want. For example Cultivate ramps and color fixes since it can find two different basic lands. Izzet Signet taps to ramp and color fix two different colors of mana. Renegade Map only color fixes, it doesn't ramp because it only puts the land you search for into your hand not onto the battlefield and it can't tap to make mana.
Sylvan Scrying is one exception since it can tutor (search your library) for any one land and put it into your hand. That's powerful and helpful to have when you can get a land that can make any color of mana such as Command Tower or better yet Cascading Cataracts which can tap along with five other sources of mana of any colors to make all five different colors of mana. This land makes it easy to be able to make five different colors to cast spells with Jodah. Cataracts is good with ramp from mana rocks.
I have suggested a lot of cards which means if you want to include them then you'll have to make many cuts. I'm not going to give you suggestions of cuts now, but if you're interested in any of these suggestions then I offer to help to make cuts. This is the nature of building budget many colored decks in Commander; have to allocate a lot of deck spots to cards to help the manabase and to make sure your deck can function, so you can reliably cast cards. Good luck with your deck.
5 months ago
I thought about the possibilities of Mystic Monastery in this deck, and concluded that the deck doesn't want to get to 4 lands practically ever. To be fair, a 17-land count is a bit low for the synergy to be more consistent. Maybe in a deck running 20+ lands this would be a game winning combo, but in this deck it just isn't viable enough. The land will end up being a tap land more often than not.
6 months ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Nice $850+ budget, but the manabase doesn't look like you have this high of a budget. You have $130 Sliver Queen and are playing Vivid lands?
Lots of good advice here about Slivers, but no one has said anything about the manabase? You can improve the manabase even on a budget, but if you're willing to spend some then great, but either way you can make it better. The Vivid lands ( Vivid Grove ) are not good. Even if you were playing proliferate which you're not; there are much better land options. The ETB tapped Fetch lands ( Flood Plain ) are also not good unless you are able to fetch dual lands that can consistently ETB untapped which you don't have here.
The Battle lands ( Cinder Glade ) are good budget dual lands, but only if you're playing a lot of basic lands. There's only 10 basic lands here which means consistently a Battle land won't ETB untapped and when you fetch one it will also ETB tapped. When you need five colors these Fetch lands are too slow and are not helping enough if all they're fetching is a basic land or a Battle land. Consider the Shock lands ( Overgrown Tomb )? You can fetch a Shock land and have it ETB untapped for the cost of 2 life. They could replace the Vivid lands.
If not willing or can't afford to add the Shock lands then another option to consider is adding the Tri lands ( Jungle Shrine ) replacing the Vivid lands and ETB tapped Fetch lands. Tri lands also ETB tapped and are not ideal, but they can make one of three different colors the next turn. Unlike the Vivid lands they can be tapped each turn after to make a different color of mana. The Vivid lands will run out of counters and then they become really useless in a five color deck.
Manabase changes to consider.
Add the Shock lands, cut the Vivid lands:
- Overgrown Tomb
- Temple Garden
- Breeding Pool
- Watery Grave
- Hallowed Fountain
- Stomping Ground
- Blood Crypt
Add the Tri lands, cut the Vivid lands and ETB tapped Fetch lands.
- Jungle Shrine
- Seaside Citadel
- Savage Lands
- Crumbling Necropolis
- Arcane Sanctum
- Opulent Palace
- Frontier Bivouac
- Sandsteppe Citadel
- Mystic Monastery
Consider land tutors: Crop Rotation and/or Sylvan Scrying ? There's several Rainbow lands ( Command Tower ) here that they can tutor for which can be helpful for color fixing. Fellwar Stone is a good two drop mana rock. Good luck with your deck.
6 months ago
Umm, well I can't offer my exact land selection to you as it involves revised duals I can say this:
Fetches are your friend, seriously. In a 5 color deck having fetches rarely make me sad, so I would run the full contingent:
There are Mirage fetches as well, a whole friendly color cycle of them, they are 'slow' but they can still grab shock lands, and cost no life: Rocky Tar Pit , Bad River , Flood Plain , Grasslands , Mountain Valley These also have the benefit of being absurdly cheap. That being said, if you do not have access to these, I'll offer some other suggestions.
Go up to 42-44 lands. Sure the curve hits 3/4, but I don't think the ideal is to hit 4 lands and be pleased with life, so I would suggest adding lands, and increasing consistency by removing some of the etb tapped lands:
Here are some 'simple' 1:1 conversions for cards I think would suit the deck better.
Honestly I hate the Terminate and some of the other choices but I am exhausted so I thought I would offer some help as opposed to trying to offer more and simply not posting.
6 months ago
I would go Rampant Growth , Farseek , Cultivate , Kodama's Reach , Commander's Sphere and Darksteel Ingot over Explosive Vegetation , Nissa's Renewal and Gilded Lotus . Most dragons are 6 CMC, therefore you should focus on getting 5 mana on turn 3 or 4.
I would also lower the number of lands to 37-38 and rely more on mana accelerants (at least 10). Since white and blue are minority on this deck, you might replace Arcane Sanctum , Mystic Monastery and Seaside Citadel with Vivid Crag , Vivid Marsh and Vivid Grove .
I noticed my Ur-Dragon is 37% red, and I have many 2-3 CMC green ramp, so I set a rule: every tapland must produce green (so I can cast any 2 CMC ramp spell on turn 2) and every other nonbasic land must produce red (so I can cast the red cost reducer shamans and the RRR dragons on curve).
7 months ago
By the way, you can't have 6 of Mystic Monastery , only 4