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Obliterate can't be countered.
Destroy all artifacts, creatures, and lands. They can't be regenerated.
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2 weeks ago
Poor against blue because of 2-for-10 cmc margin on counterspells?.. Otherwise MD + MLD are some of the best counters to instant-based reactionary decks, I catch them on that all the time... MLD them when they have no permanents out, its where I see the parity where others do not. I ran Obliterate for that reason too.
But agreed, with Rakdos there probably are games where you wouldn't even get to 10 mana reliably, unless you were specifically built for that. Jund is nicely built to accelerate everyone so much & then punish everyone for overextending. Tempting Wurm & Obliterate FTW! :)
3 weeks ago
I love it! It’s going in every RW EDH deck I build from now on! I play in a meta where mass land destruction cards like Jokulhaups and Obliterate are fairly common, so being able to save all my lands as well can be invaluable! I also hate getting two-for-one’d when opponents steal my stuff, so it’s nice having it as a Brand effect. One of my friends also has a superfriends deck that runs Leave / Chance, and he sometimes uses it to reset all of his Planeswalkers’ loyalty counters! It’s a very versatile card that goes under a lot of players radars!
3 weeks ago
KayneMarco: Eh, it's still not something I'd run.
1 month ago
I have had major success with my windgrace deck, and I love this primer. Comparing the two, this list does feel more combo like where mine goes a bit more midrange. Two cards I HAVE to suggest would be Bojuka Bog and Obliterate.
Obliterate doesn't hit windgrace so you can safely control the board and drop lands. Bog is amazing for other grave shenanigans. And yes, combing both cards is very easy and usually happens.
1 month ago
Looks sweet; here's some cards I'd put on the chopping block:
2 months ago
Evacuation to pop off at instant speed right before your creatures come out of suspension might be loony.
Sneak Attack would be good if you do intend to steer away from Eldrazi.
I think more counterspells to assure your threats don't get interrupted is a must especially since this deck requires so much set up to get going. On that note, I'd then bring in Snapcaster Mage and possibly even Torrential Gearhulk since your sorceries have such high value. You might also consider Archaeomancer depending on how highly you value your instants/sorceries.
Chancellor of the Spires is a fun blue fatty, so is Diluvian Primordial, Sphinx Ambassador and as vanilla as Inkwell Leviathan might look, it is super hard to deal with. You could also consider the new card Arcane Artisan to cheat out fatties if Jhoira is uncastable. Also, Timebender could be nice here too.
In summary, I think the deck is very strong but could use some more support in the counterspell department, with a little spell recursion (Snapcaster, Torrential, etc). I would also consider throwing in a bit more mana rock ramp to assure you have enough mana if Jhoira is uncastable. Consider Mind Stone, Thought Vessel andCoalition Relic as the three more important ones, and possibly even Hedron Archive or Commander's Sphere.
I would also say think hard on Obliterate, Jokulhaups, and Decree of Annihilation. I personally think they are great win conditions, but can lead to a lot of the same lines of play which can make games repetitive. I definitely wouldn't say cut them all together because they're a valid strategy to pretty much every Jhoira deck, but play around with the numbers, maybe try out 2 or maybe just one so you're not relying too heavily on them. Just find what feels right.
2 months ago
I used Tenza, Godo's Maul in here for a long time when I first built the deck, and it's a lovely card! I don't really need it anymore because I've got enough swords, but it's a fantastic card for a budget build of a deck like this!
I abhor mass land destruction cards like Armageddon and Cataclysm, at least in decks that don't instantly win when you cast them. For instance, my Marchesa, the Black Rose deck runs Obliterate, Jokulhaups, and Bearer of the Heavens to great success because I'll be the only one left with any permanents, and they're all creatures! In every other deck though, MLD cards are just "win more" cards, and by that I mean that they are only good in a winning position. Blowing up everyone's lands won't help if I don't have a winning board state, so I tend to avoid running them and run cards that turn games around in my favor. Also, things like Cataclysm and Tragic Arrogance tend to be VERY bad for this deck because it's so artifact heavy
2 months ago
Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite and Serra Ascendant in a Vampire deck? Seems a little bit weird. Conspiracy maybe... I also recommend to find a place for Blade of the Bloodchief. Not sure about Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx - I use it in monocolored decks only (just like Vampire Nocturnus - this guy is great in mono B Vampires but he is much less effective in Mardu builds). What do you think about Maze of Ith? Or Vesuva? Seems a little bit more interesting. I also see Sorin Markov in your maybeboard. You added Eldrazi Monument so token generators are much more preferable. Sorin, Lord of Innistrad or Sorin, Solemn Visitor for example. And yes, don't forget about Anointed Procession if you want to get tons of tokens. I also recommend to think about board wipes: Wrath of God, Day of Judgment, Damnation, Languish etc. Even Obliterate. Why not? Eerie Interlude + Obliterate and a very big surprise is guaranteed :)