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Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life.
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Liliana's Caress Discussion
3 hours ago
Sweet deck, inspirational for my own. Liliana's Caress might be good in this deck too. I personally think that Hypnotic Specter would be a good option instead of Sangromancer, although it might be worth sideboarding against burn.
1 week ago
hey man, i made a deck like yours and someone told me some advice.Waste Not and Liliana's Caress are useless if the player has no card and you have only 2 nihil stones,The Rack could be better,bonus points for Inquisition of Kozilek
1 week ago
First of all, your Win-Conditions are not the greatest choice for this style of deck. It's kinda surprising really, but the fact of the matter is, that once you've put your opponent into topdeck mode, they are just going to draw a card -> play that card, and you might never get another trigger of Waste Not and Liliana's Caress again. If you already have your Quest for the Nihil Stone active, that's not a problem, but if not, it's equally as useless.
Thirdly, you need a way to deal with resolved things. There are too options I like to take this kind of list, (though there are many good players who disagree with me on that). Those two directions are:
A) Ensnaring Bridge. AKA the slow, hope to get them dead before they blow up the bridge rout, bringing a both overpowed and fragile line of defense.
B) Nyxathid. AKA the I know how to defend myself and I sure as hell can also swing rout, bringing a balance between offense and defense. (But need more cards devoted to it to work properly.)
Here's my list if you are interrested. 8-Rack
2 weeks ago
Welcome Back to the Game! You've chosen the right Format for fun and using all those sweet old cards.
Not too many editions: This will make for a great casual play and a fantastic deck to tinker. Looking at your build, I'm assuming that you're not looking to throw hundreds of dollars at this so my suggestions reflect that.If you want some more Elvish Ramp, Throw Elvish Archdruid and/or Elvish Guidance in the mix.Perhaps some more value on your opponent's discarding? Megrim and Liliana's Caress add damage; Animate Dead, Necromancy, Sepulchral Primordial, Yawgmoth's Vile Offering, and Ink-Eyes, Servant of Oni all let you get baddies out of your opponents' graveyards. The Eldest Reborn is pretty good in multiplayer, too.Timely Targeted removal is huge in EDH, too. Abrupt Decay, Beast Within and other multi-type removal may stop people's engines from coming online.
Good luck and Have fun!
3 weeks ago
First off welcome back. Your deck is close to two established archetypes 8 Rack and Hollow One. 8 Rack uses The Rack and Shrieking Affliction to dish out the pain along with a discard suite including Inquisition of Kozilek, Raven's Crime, Smallpox and Wrench Mind but rarely Dark Deal or Mind Rot as they are too slow for the format. The second deck I mentioned uses Hollow One and Flameblade Adept with Bloodghast and Flamewake Phoenix to take maximum advantage of your discards, for simplicities sake I'll link my Zombie Hollow one deck here and you can have a look.
As to particular suggestions, well first cut the previously mentioned Dark Deal and Mind Rot, in those five slots add 4x Wrench Mind and 1x Burning Inquiry, though you could have 4x Smallpox if you prefer. I'd also suggest you cut the 2x Incendiary Command and add one extra of Inquisition of Kozilek and Faithless Looting, or instead you could experiment with 2x Wheel of Fate or 2x Reforge the Soul. Lastly Underworld Dreams would almost always be better as another Liliana's Caress or Waste Not.
I hope this is of some help and have fun brewing your deck.
3 weeks ago
Yeah we have very similar builds, but you are missing all of the fun Disco action with cards like Oppression, Painful Quandary, Words of Waste, and Necrogen Mists. Make it hurt with some Liliana's Caress, Megrim, and Raiders' Wake (I'm only using the latter because it's self activated). I thought Muldrotha was the perfect leader for my mass collection of elves so Nath of the Gilt-Leaf and Sadistic Hypnotist (honorary elf) fit in my list quite easily and cause people an abundance of pain. Also I'm surprised not many people are catching on... but every Muldrotha deck needs a Primal Surge because who doesn't like puking 1/3 of their deck into play for 10 mana. On a similar note, Genesis Wave also works, but its a bit more recursion friendly as you just mil the instants and sorceries.
3 weeks ago
Your deck is conceptually similar to the Owling Mine deck. That deck uses cards like Boomerang, Eye of Nowhere, Remand and the recently printed Unsubstantiate to disrupt your opponent and keep their hand full. The other cards that play a major part in the deck are Exhaustion and the already suggested Ebony Owl Netsuke.
Now without using blue the best way for you to disrupt your opponent is discard, extraction and potentially land destruction or denial. I'm guessing you are wanting to stay reasonably budget, so maybe Blood Sun could help or the Aftermath effect Rubble on Reduce / Rubble. I suspect that both Fate Unraveler and Teferi's Puzzle Box are too slow, for a 4 drop I might be more tempted by Barbed Shocker or Sudden Impact. I also think you might be able to use Liliana's Caress, Molten Vortex or Wheel of Fate depending on how you want to shape the deck.