Liliana's Caress

Liliana's Caress

Enchantment

Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life.

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Set Rarity
2011 Core Set (M11) Uncommon

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Format Legality
Oathbreaker Legal
Legacy Legal
Unformat Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Noble Legal
1v1 Commander Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Magic Duels Legal
Penny Dreadful Legal
Modern Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Leviathan Legal
2019-10-04 Legal
Vintage Legal
Casual Legal

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Liliana's Caress Discussion

abbatromebone on Brain Getting Too Big

1 week ago

ilovemydoghisnameistuna on Black discard

2 weeks ago

I often find with discard decks that it is really hard to close out a game, even with Hypnotic Specters and the like. I would recommend taking the Abyssal Nocturnus out of the sideboard and into the main and adding a 3-4 Liliana's Caress.

dichia on Burn mono black

1 month ago

Thanks, I was thinking of a couple of changes that could be done. One is going full creature less. The Smallpox combo would be less effective but easier to play. Setting the board with both Liliana's Caress and Geralf's Messenger can take quite a lot of time.

The other was to change Vicious Rumors for Raven's Crime. Even if the first trigger Drill Bit, most of the cards in the deck already do it. On the other hand, Raven's Crime can be another card that we can replay from graveyard to give the deck more options as we go on in the game.

Trying the deck I noticed that if you are not able to end the game, at a certain point you will run out of gas and you will not be able to finish the opponent, so more cards that we can play more than once are good imo.

dichia on Mono-Black Burn

1 month ago

I agree with zAzen7977. To take more time, the deck should be more focused on discarding and removal imo. And black can do that while also dealing damages.

Smallpox and Collective Brutality are two very good cards to use with Alms of the Vein and Liliana's Caress.

I made a similar list featuring those combos if you want to take a look at my idea of the deck. Maybe it could help.

abby315 on I've got a very tiny bone to pick with you

1 month ago

FunnyDuck Thanks much for the suggestions and the upvote! If I'm reading it right, you suggest the deck should shore up in these areas:

1) GY control, either through reanimation or exile.

2) Commander control, through sac effects.

3) Additional ramp.

Plus the recommendation of Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip, which I appreciate because she was my favorite card of Origins. I spent so much money on drafts trying to pull her, and I was so mad I just kept getting the (then $7) Jace, Vryn's Prodigy  Flip...

ANYWAY. Lots of good points. I will say it's tough with an "engine" deck like this one to add additional utility without sacrificing consistency. It's just SO BAD if you have out the Megrim effects and then stop drawing gas. As much as possible I'm trying to make the utility and win-con effects overlap with other synergies, like Madness, or else stick it in the land slot, like Bojuka Bog.

For category 1), I definitely like Scavenger Grounds, and maybe: Elspeth's Nightmare, Phyrexian Scriptures, Nezumi Graverobber, Shred Memory (which can tutor for either a Your-Turn Discard or a Liliana's Caress) or Erebos's Intervention?

It's also worth noting that one could just build this deck without any GY interaction and run Leyline of the Void and Planar Void.

For 2), I'm not convinced that the deck can't run without Tinybones, since there are other ways to break parity in both the discard selection and in the extra Draw Engines. Tinybones is also really easy to recast through Commander Tax, so the real problem is being stolen. I'm thinking maybe just running a Homeward Path and Phyrexian Tower and maybe Endless Sands, which also works with Scavenger Grounds. If I'm running these colorless/non-Swamp lands I should probably throw in Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth.

3) In playtesting, I haven't found much of a need for more ramp (especially because I usually want to cast Tinybones on t2), but if I do, it will probably be Coldsteel Heart or Mana Vault.

I would really love to run that Liliana, but without adding more sacrifice effects, I don't think I can pull it off. That's definitely one way to build the deck, though.

Thanks again! I'll make some changes now and what I don't make room for now, I'll add to a recommendations section on card selections if you're facing GY decks, steal decks, etc.

builderboy7 on Liliana FTW

1 month ago

There's a flip liliana in the form of Liliana, Heretical Healer  Flip which flips into a planeswalker which can get value with her -X. Reanimating zombies from the graveyard to add onto the zombie tribal sub-theme. I'd play Ayara, First of Locthwain in the 99 to add more synergy with the deck with her Sacrifice theme. you could also add a discard sub-theme with cards like Geth's Grimoire and Liliana's Caress al0ong with the Snuff Out from one of the duel decks. everything has a image of liliana for the exception of Geth's Grimoire.

Pheardemons on Pattern Recognition #151 - Discard

3 months ago

berryjon You only dedicated a paragraph to Liliana's Caress and Megrim, but (despite being an artifact) was The Rack not worth mentioning here? Nor the fact that there is an entire modern and (if I'm not mistaken) legacy deck dedicated to this ability that black has? These decks take advantage of not only taking apart someone's hand, but punishing them further due to Shrieking Affliction and The Rack. Plus, we got a planeswalker that does all of this in one with Davriel, Rogue Shadowmage. Also, cards like Raven's Crime that can be allowed to cast multiple times but is still one mana. I'm curious as to your reasoning for leaving these out despite being huge impacts in competitive magic.

MindAblaze on Nekusar draw for days

4 months ago

Alright fair enough. I think it’s most of the way there already.

Personally, I don’t like Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind or The Locust God from my experience with The Mad King of Tristram. I prefer Runehorn Hellkite since most of my cards end up in the yard after a certain point. You’re not running Memory Jar, Wheel of Fortune, Chandra Ablaze, Incendiary Command (which I should see if I can squeeze back in) or Reforge the Soul though. These cards make your Liliana's Caress and Megrim way more impactful. There’s also that new shade that has the same ability on it too...Fell Specter.

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