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|2011 Core Set||Uncommon|
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Whenever an opponent discards a card, that player loses 2 life.
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Liliana's Caress Discussion
3 days ago
go 8rack: 4 The Rack, 4 Shrieking Affliction, and the only creature you use is Augur of Skulls, since it can block Death's Shadow all afternoon without getting tired. Drop the other creatures, and Liliana's Caress.
3 days ago
Blue is an interesting pair, return permanents to their owners hands and then make them discard. I'd love a functional reprint of Liliana's Caress or even The Rack. Not likely to happen, but I can dream...
6 days ago
Maybe one Painful Quandary.
Geier Reach Sanitarium. If they discard a land, you get your mana back.
Ruthless Sniper could have some real fun here.
And definitely some creature removal, such as Murderous Cut.
6 days ago
Also, although this deck is already perfect, you might want to consider splashing black just to add Liliana's Caress or Megrim, seeing as your opponent will probably be discarding a lot of cards that they don't have the lands to play. Waste Not would also fit, if you choose to do so. Warped Devotion, too, though it'll hurt you as well. Also, if you don't feel like splashing, then take a look at Black Vise. Cheers, and may the topdecks be ever in your favor!
1 week ago
bradtheimpaler13 i've considered nezumi before, but ultimately i think it's too weak on both ends. it's either subpar discard, or it's weak punishing. and that makes it the worst of both worlds. as for Megrim and Liliana's Caress both only work if i'm repeatedly making opponents discard, rather than just stripping their hands and being done with it. and then after that, they don't do anything and are just dead cards.
1 week ago
hmm..? I see... This seems like a deck that could benefit from Hellfire Mongrel and cards of its ilk :)
Go big with your creatures, try to find more effects that mess with everyone and streamline the deck a little bit more. As it stands now you have little to no payoff cards for your discard subtheme. Look for cards that care about the number of cards/cards of a type in all graveyards (e.g. Mortivore).
Alternatively you can go for the black infect package (Glistening Oil, Phyresis, Grafted Exoskeleton...) and activate Tymaret enough times to kill the table (in my pod that would be at least 15 times).
Oh! and for cost reduction for the king's abilities I can think of Heartstone. It's symmetrical though, so you may want to take that into consideration before you slam dunk it in play.
1 week ago
Mass discard is a "mean" strategy, and I think you may have built this list afraid to be the villain. It looks like you tried to hybrid an aggressive deck and a cruel control deck, and those don't really work together. First thing I would do is slow down the deck, and put in more longevity.
A lot of your discard is low-impact. Black Cat, for example, only makes one opponent discard once. Why not play, for example, Hypnotic Specter, which can hit multiple times. In addition, I would add things that benefit off of discard, like Liliana's Caress, Sangromancer, Geth's Grimoire, and Waste Not. Symmetrical effects are a little harder to build around, but things like Sire Of Insanity, Oppression, and Bottomless Pit can really get your job done faster. Notion Thief can prevent your opponents from refilling their hand, and Torment of Hailfire is a good finisher from HOU.
In addition, Tymaret already wants you to have tokens, so I would beef up that sub-theme, adding things like Ophiomancer and Endrek Sahr, Master Breeder. Tokens would keep you alive longer, and would allow you to play things like Sadistic Hypnotist and Mind Slash. If you have fodder lying around a lot, Pox and Death Cloud hurt you a lot less than your opponents.
A cruel control theme is not an easy way to make friends at the table, but playing a lot of spite cards can make people reluctant to attack you. Mind Twisting for 7 or having Attrition on the board will stick with people (and, if your budget is bigger, No Mercy).