|Commander / EDH||Legal|
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|Duels of the Planeswalkers (DPA)||Uncommon|
|2010 Core Set (M10)||Uncommon|
|Tenth Edition (10E)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition (9ED)||Uncommon|
|Ninth Edition Foreign Black Border (9EDFBB)||Uncommon|
|Eighth Edition (8ED)||Uncommon|
|Seventh Edition (7ED)||Uncommon|
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Whenever an opponent discards a card, Megrim deals 2 damage to that player.
|Have (2)||Hakira ,|
|Want (9)||mothertucker , obitus , Gobeman , shivanphoenix09 , Wormple12 , Thotny , Approximos , Strangelove , Jelatinator|
1 week ago
Liliana's Caress is a strictly better Megrim . Liliana of the Veil is a lot cheaper than Liliana Vess . 18 lands is too little for the high curve you play. Normal 8-Rack runs 24 to hit 3 lands on turn 3 so I'd recommend a few more ( Blood Crypt , Blackcleave Cliffs , Bloodstained Mire .) I'd also cut Nyxathid from the mainboard so any removal your opponent has is useless Game 1.
2 weeks ago
I agree with a lot of the suggestions that other folks have made. I also have a Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker deck, Idle Hands, I built mine specifically around forcing discards. Whispering Specter is a great card in a Shirei deck, it creates a threat that forces people to choose what’s scarier, the commander or the discard triggered by infect damage, pair that up with things like Megrim . Raiders' Wake and Waste Not and those discards get painful! Tree of Perdition is also nice as you can, if it’s not blocked, change the entire boards life total one at a time to 13. I definitely need to follow your example and add more protection for Shirei to my deck. My most recent, and as of right untested, addition is Aether Vial , a free creature is never something to sneeze at!
3 weeks ago
I play my Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker deck with a lot of forced opponent discard effects, such Burglar Rat and Corrupt Court Official with ways to cause damage and gain advantage with enchantments like Waste Not and Megrim . I also like Tree of Perdition for that instant knock down to 13 life.
1 month ago
jadedflames - thanks!
I dont know how I missed Grimoire and Words of Waste in the list. They're actually in the paper deck - I've been messing with the actual 99 a lot of late. And you're right, they each generate some extreme value.
Mindlash Sliver is a recent include, and unfortunately I just haven't drawn it yet. The cost is just so low and Muldrotha lets me re-use it every turn so I thought it would be worth trying.
Right now my major issue seems to be...me. I make overly greedy plays. Last night I tried to use LED to get Muldrotha on the table...and she was countered. So I had dumped my entire hand, made myself entirely reliant on Muldrotha to recover even a little, and I lost the cornerstone with that counterspell. I eventually started to recover a little, but that was the real moment I lost that game. I'm even tempted to remove LED at least temporarily just because of the greedy plays it inspires from me.
But I have another concern that you might be able to help with, considering your success with Grixis discard. Discard punishers like Megrim are quite slow. While Muldrotha has a lot of resilience and could potentially grind out a game through sheer tenacity, waiting for discard triggers and Wheel of Torture effects to eke out a win feels very slow. Even with all of my hand disruption, other decks may simply outrace me to a win condition. Do you have any advice on closing out the game reliably?
1 month ago
I'm glad you liked the deck BOOMsquid!
1 month ago
Love the originality of this build. +1 just for that. Whatever creature you wind up using the cipher ability of whispering madness on I would also attach steel of the godhead on it as well. If putting them on Zur I suggest adding Diplomatic Immunity to the deck and have it be the first thing you Zur out and attach it to him. Hell, I’ld put that on Zur wether you plan on attaching the others to him or not. Also consider any or all of these ideas that punish them for all the discarding that will be happening:
- Bloodchief Ascension
- Quest for the Nihil Stone
- Shrieking Affliction
- Words of Waste
- Raiders' Wake ain’t zurable but it will still hurt.
The rest can all be zured out making it easy to punish for the discarding.
1 month ago
I actually had 2 Megrim in my main deck when I started this today. I figured 4 Liliana's Caress would be great, especially with it’s low Casting cost. I’ll definitely look into Raiders' Wake now that you mention it. Thanks!
1 month ago
Megrim is another Liliana's Caress for one more mana, and Raiders' Wake costs two more but forces your opponent to discard if you attack with creatures. Both are budget enchantments that would stack up discard damage in this deck, which I think would needed late game to close it out when they may be top decking and only discarding every few turns.
Megrim occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0,1%
U/B/R (Grixis): 0,18%