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Shrieking Affliction Discussion
2 hours ago
For the format of the deck put casual, since it's not modern legal, but, I assume, you want to use as much modern cards as possible.
Then, I also assume that you don't want to spend a lot, so I'll try to propose low cost cards.
You have 16 things that do things when your opponent discards something, but only 10 cards that force your opponent to discard and 8 of them are easily destroyable creatures that also cost a bit too much mana for what you want them to do.
Personally I don't like Vile Consumption. It works also on your creatures and does nothing if your opponent doesn't play creatures or has only big things (if I have a 5/5 I'd pay one life cause it will make you lose 5). Do you want something that lets you destroy some creatures? Use Fatal Push, Murderous Cut, Doom Blade, Lightning Bolt or stuff like that
Last thing: 25 lands are too much. Just reduce them and add some shock lands (Watery Grave, Blood Crypt, Steam Vents), or check lands (Drowned Catacomb, Dragonskull Summit, Sulfur Falls). And, if they work well, you could also cut Thaumatic Compass Flip
1 week ago
Also, I'd consider dropping Sign in Blood, Disfigure, Doomblade, and board out Surgical Extraction (it's more of a SB card). I'd also consider using the free space to fill out Liliana, Thoughtseize, other removal like Smallpox, and definitely add Plague Stinger. That way you have an earlier infect, and it has decent evasion.
How frequent does Runechanter's Pike work for you? I like it in theory, but I just don't know how well it could be competitively.
1 week ago
Thank you jgc10. I like the recommendation of Grasp of Darkness! I have taken to heart the concept of targeted removal for this deck and think that Grasp of Darkness is better than Geth's Verdict for this deck.
I actually love Raven's Crime in opening hands because of the Retrace ability. It helps you play lands as additional discard cards, which is vital because you need extra lands when playing smallpox, and together those cards allow you to cull out lands when you draw to many, that way you don't run out of lands either. I think the land management ability is a key reason why Raven's Crime is so common in professional 8-Rack decks.
I understand your concern about untargeted discard cards. In this particular budget deck I love the untargeted discard and intend to follow up by turn 2 or 3 with Blackmail or Mire's Toll to remove any specific card that is still a problem. I've found that I can't afford Thoughtseize and Inquisition of Kozilek. Also if all your opponent has in hand is a land card, every discard card in this deck will remove it from the opponents hand, increasing the reliability of The Rack and Shrieking Affliction.
This deck has taken a turn towards more low cmc discard and removal cards since I created it. Please let me know your thoughts on the deck now with the changes.
1 week ago
Night's Whisper $1.58 is too much, Sign in Blood is $0.18 (and can target opponents), Read the Bones is $0.16 but I don't like the CMC3. Night's Whisper/Sign in Blood definitely the best. Brainstorm $0.70 is even better imo. Ponder is $2.30 so not a great option. Brainstorm/Sign in Blood best for budget. Altar's Reap don't like it either. Costly Plunder also not quite right.
Telling Time also not bad in budget $0.23 lets you scry one to bottom and replaces itself.
Dimir Signet $1.80 is so much. Talisman of Dominance $1.29 is better because it's CMC2. Also, Talisman of Indulgence $0.72. Fellwar Stone $1.25 but less predictable. I think the Signets are great, but $1.80 is tough.
Baleful Strix is $2.95 but pretty amazing, if you free up enough cash for him.
Displacement Wave slows you down too much I feel, it can give you a Thraximundar alone. You control it with , but it's not going to work in 1 hour format, outside of the 1 hour feel it's pretty weak anyway.
Shrieking Affliction is going to guarantee that 3x players are attacking you, and it's too slow to win you the game.
Can up you mana ramp with stuff like Mycosynth Wellspring $0.15,
Murder always a nice multi-purpose removal in this format.
Far // Away $0.24 can also be handy.
You're mana source distribution is quite good 24% / 24% / 37% .
Desecration Demon might be fun, he's only CMC4.
I think your fairly balanced too, maybe a little too heavy on Sorcery, sub 1 for an instant or another creature or artifact.
I wouldn't go counterspell (maybeboard has so many), won't work in this format effectively.
2 weeks ago
Looks fun! Just a couple tips about the TappedOut hubs - 'Cruel Control' is for Red+Black+Blue control decks that use the card Cruel Ultimatum as their finisher, not just any decks that are cruel and controlling. This would actually fit into the hub called '8Rack'. '8Rack' is the name given to decks that utilize discard to run your opponent out of options, and kill them with The Rack and Shrieking Affliction. It's called 8Rack because Shrieking Affliction is considered to be just a worse version of The Rack, so it's as if the decks are running 8 copies of The Rack.
Now, for actual suggestions - The Rack, of course. Excellent source of damage to help close out the game. You could also look at Wrench Mind, which is almost always a 2 mana 2 for 1.
Whatever you decide to do, good luck and have fun!
3 weeks ago
I played 8 rack for a couple of years and the deck is both quite budget friendly and a bunch of fun! I found that running 7-8 "racks" made the deck the most consistent (as the name 8-rack implies), so I would recommend putting in 3-4 Shrieking Affliction. Playing 24 lands with 4 Raven's Crime also adds a lot of consistency (it's actually a really good card), especially when running a couple of Dakmor Salvage for recursion.
In my experience, effects that trigger when an opponent discards a card are risky to run, because the aim of the deck is usually to get your opponent empty handed ASAP and they are difficult to trigger after that. If you want to play Liliana's Caress I would say play it with in a red/black deck focused around that sort of effect with cards like Burning Inquiry, Reforge the Soul and Waste Not (see this deck: https://www.channelfireball.com/articles/waste-not-storm-combo/).
Some sideboard options to consider: Throne of Geth against Chalice of the Void on 1 - this is something we see a bit of at the moment in legacy. Throne can sacrifice itself to add a counter to chalice and let you resolve your spells again. Asylum Visitor gives you card draw against decks that can't easily refill their hand and a creature to sideboard in to beat down through Leyline of Sanctity.
Finally, a few of the brewier pieces I used to run were Smallpox and Rotting Rats. Smallpox is something that doesn't hurt us as much as most decks and can mana screw people as well as kill a creature. It's good with Lingering Souls if you have enough ways to discard the souls, so you don't have to play white. Rotting Rats does a bit of a Liliana of the Veil impression by making multiple discard triggers go off, and the unearth can't be countered. APPLE01DOJ above mentioned Necrogen Mists which might actually be better than the rats.
Anyway good to see the deck still has some interest, have fun making opponents sad ;)
1 month ago
That being said, let’s go over your list of cards and start making some cuts to fine tune it.
Some less synergistic cards to cut:
Jace, Ingenious Mind-Mage
Phage the Untouchable
Heliod, God of the Sun
Gonti, Lord of Luxury
Hope of Ghirapur
Leyline of Sanctity
Bridge from Below
I’ve got some other ideas but for now that’s where I would start with cuts.
1 month ago
I have 128 cards and trying to knock it down to 100, would like some help makes a good Zombie deck. Thank you for your time and help. Here are my cards
Commander - Oloro, Ageless Ascetic