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At the beginning of each opponent's upkeep, if that player has one or fewer cards in hand, he or she loses 3 life.
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Shrieking Affliction Discussion
4 days ago
Nath combos very nicely with Mind Slash. I would run it over something more tame, like Necrogen Mists. I'd also try to get Shrieking Affliction in there, as even with 40 life, being hit for 3 a turn is pretty substantial.
1 week ago
Funny thing, I decided at the last moment to not play them in favor of some Geth's Verdict. I was worried about getting blown out by leaning too heavily on the discard strategy and I wanted a maindeck answer to the nahiri-emrakul combo and get potentially get some value out of my removal when I was hellbent with Necrogen Mists.
I also learned 20min before the event that Shrieking Affliction doesn't trigger the way The Rack does when stacking the upkeep discard from Necrogen Mists when the opponent has 2 cards in hand. Maybe that's bad info, but it was a split second decision.
It's a good card no doubt, but personally, I've been shying away from going straight discard and running creatures in lieu of having any copies of Liliana of the Veil or Ensnaring Bridge. It's just more fun to kill creatures than discard cards in my mind (I am not a Spike). Dumb reason, yeah, but all that might change if I choose to include some Waste Not or Asylum Visitor... or it might not if I start including more land destruction. I learned a lot about what this deck can/wants to do and the flexibility of having multiple strategies.
2 weeks ago
Raven's Crime is excellent for getting rid of excess lands.
painful quandry is too expensive, you're never going to cast it before dying.
With only 19 lands you don't want more than maybe three cards with a CMC or higher.
3 weeks ago
Hi NV_1980, thank you for your comment. Sorry for the delay, I've been away for a while.
Yes, you are correct in that with this current build I could essentially run out of 'fuel' for my discard spells and force my opponents into topdeck mode. However, I think this is exactly where we want them. I have chosen to not run cards like Well of Ideas because those cards run well with cards like Liliana's Caress (which you'll typically see in a Nekusar build). Instead of Liliana's Caress, I get to run cards like Lavaborn Muse and Shrieking Affliction to burn my opponents to death all while limiting our opponent's options. In my opinion and experience with this deck, I would rather have my opponents draw less cards and be stuck in topdeck mode rather than them draw too many cards and run the risk of them drawing into an answer. Now I understand that they could always find an answer when they're in topdeck mode but at least in this scenario, if they do find an answer (such as a boardwipe), it will still take a few turns for them to have a playable hand again and I get to keep my hand full of discard spells and abilities.
rwking082: I did not know about this card, thank you for bringing it to my attention! I will playtest it for a bit and let you know what I think!
3 weeks ago
alright, so i'm not greatly familiar with creature based mono-black decks in modern. There's a good handful of black control strategies out there. most of them either use The Rack and Shrieking Affliction alongside a heavy dose of discard spells like Raven's Crime, Liliana of the Veil, Smallpox. What you're trying to do with this is interesting, but actually pretty darn good.
I can only think to make some tweaks to it since you already have most of the essentials. Idk if you're aware, but modern is packed to the brim with combo decks ever since blue control fell even further out of favor last year, so i'm pretty happy to see you already have Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize.
anyway, tweaks. I think your creature choice is spot on. I might consider Vampire Nighthawk, and even Gravecrawler could be good. Decks where things just dont want to die can be very frustrating to deal with, so the combination of Gravecrawler, Bloodghast, and Geralf's Messenger could be very potent.
on the flip side, i love your idea of using Relentless Dead for recursion. same idea as using Gravecrawler, but it could bring back any of your threats, including (as you said) a way to drain twice with gary.
your removal could use some upgrades. Fatal Push is excellent. Go for the Throat is a good budget kill spell, but affinity decks are likely something you'll end up facing. it's pretty awkward staring down an Ornithopter with lethal sized Cranial Plating, and all you have is a Go for the Throat to defend yourself. that said, Dismember kills just about everything in modern. look at your deck for example. see anything that survives? =P lastly, Surgical Extraction. Honestly one of my favorite cards. it can rip lands right out of somebody's hand if they have 2 of the same fetchland in their opening hand. it can cripple combo decks into conceding games, and take the foot off the gas of just about any graveyard strategy. that said, unless you're playing a dedicated mill deck, it should realistically be in your sideboard. most decks dont care about their graveyards, and pulling some redundancy from somebody's deck doesn't make the card worth having over another threat or removal spell.
now for lands. Arena is interesting, but i cant say im a fan. personally not something i would run. i'd rather just have a swamp and guarantee ill have mana. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth can make up for Arena's shortcoming, but it wont happen consistently. it also covers nykthos. the key change here would be to add some fetchlands. I'd say around 8 fetchlands that go into black would be plenty to help filter your deck. this really isn't a big deal, and honestly you could save the money and run 20 swamps. I think the deck is consistent enough that it wouldn't even be an issue, but if you want to make the upgrades, i think a few fetches are ideal.
As some other ideas for you to consider: Dark Confidant is an option in place of Phyrexian Arena, although i actually like the arena since it wont get killed as easily. however, bob also acts as another threat. it's a tricky choice. I saw in your maybeboard you were considering Liliana of the Veil and Liliana of the Dark Realms. Liliana of the Veil is arguably the most powerful planeswalker in the game. right up there with Jace, the Mind Sculptor, she can win games all by herself. 2 or 3 copies will cost you a kidney and your firstborn child, but i promise you'll see some success with her. dark realms i wouldn't recommend. she doesn't synergize with your deck very well. another that might interest you instead is Liliana, the Last Hope. she acts as removal, psuedo-draw, and recursion. 3 things your deck already does, and would be happy to have more of. Also, she's rotating out of standard at the end of September, so her price is sure to drop when that happens.
Well, i hope that helps. I actually had to do a little research for you, but this deck has a lot of potential. even if you played it as it sits right now, i think you'd be pleased with its performance. I really like this deck. it's super old-school, and reminds me of the older black control decks with Hymn to Tourach, Necropotence, Drain Life. you've got a lot of very similar cards in here, and it's pretty sweet!
anyway, let me know what you think, and if you need help with sideboarding
1 month ago
turn the caps lock off. your least expensive creature costs 4 mana. that wont work. leyline of the void is not a mainboard card, its a sideboard card against graveyard based strategies. you run Shrieking Affliction and Waste Not, yet you only have 2 discard spells. if you want a discard-based win condition, you need more discard spells. you also have no low cost permanents that cost double black to pump up your devotion for Marshmist Titan, and you have no Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx. check out my own mono black deck. the korlash one.
1 month ago
Sweet first deck! I'd add Shrieking Affliction as an additional "Rack", and maybe even other Mind Rot effects over some copies of Dreadbore/Terminate. After all, if they have no creatures in hand, they can't be played. Smallpox, Raven's Crime, and the like might be helpful.
Let me know if I can be of more help! Best of luck!