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Tragic Slip Discussion
5 hours ago
Thank you for your help. I replaced Cryptbreaker and Call to the Netherworld by Relentless Dead and Geralf's Messenger, and Go for the Throat by Tragic Slip. I think it's better to focus on the constant dead / come back of zombie than discard/exile to add more zombie. Also, Gray Merchant of Asphodel will be perfect in mid-end game for sure, especially with the new cards.
21 hours ago
Hi, I am offering my opinions here as someone who has been semi-regularly playing a mono-black vampires list for some time now. I started out with a list by Tom Ross I found online but slowly changed it.
Broadly speaking, the deck runs 23 lands, 21 creatures, 6 removal, 6 discard, and 4 of the most powerful planeswalker in Modern Liliana of the Veil.
Let's talk about the creatures first. The most important creature in this deck is Bloodghast. Not only is he a recurring threat, he also fixes your draw with Viscera Seer. This is important especially if you are playing Vampire Nocturnus, and you want to control the top of your library and smooth your draws. Gatekeeper of Malakir is also good because of the sacrifice effect. A new addition to the deck is Asylum Visitor - excellent synergy with Liliana, Collective Brutality, plus we are frequently and quite easily hellbent. I have come down to only a single Kalastria Highborn because although she has good synergy with Bloodghast, I have found it to be quite slow and too cute in the format. As for your other creature choices, I just have to say: there are two better candidates in the 4-drop slot than Bloodline Keeper Flip or Mirri the Cursed; you will almost never activate Captivating Vampire's second ability; you will seldom have enough creatures for Drana, Liberator of Malakir's ability to matter either; and Vampire Lacerator is more at home in an aggro shell.
Discard is whatever split you want between Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize so I am with you on that. As for removal, I have tested various numbers of the usual suspects - Victim of Night, Dismember, Go for the Throat, Murderous Cut, Tragic Slip (also excellent with Bloodghast), and Urge to Feed. I have not tried Hero's Downfall because I'm not sure if I want my removals to be at 3CMC. Also, I have Vampire Hexmage in the board against planeswalkers. I have been trying 1-2 copies of Collective Brutality and it shines in several matchups, especially Burn and Infect. If you want to play more removal, you can consider playing a couple Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet as well.
The land package is straightforward - you run a playset of Mutavault and about 8 black fetches, a number of Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth and Swamps. I used to run 2 Cavern of Souls but realised that control is not as significant as it once was so I cut them. Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx is not really needed because not only is it difficult to get permanents to stick on board, I'm not sure what we need so much mana for - we have no mana sinks. More importantly, we can't afford too many colorless lands and we already have 4 Mutavaults. The fetches are essential because you control the top of your library with them, and you have the Bloodghast-Viscera Seer trick.
Mono-black Vampires has more game with top tier Modern decks than you think. Good luck and have fun!
5 days ago
Discards are just a split between Inquisition of Kozilek and Thoughtseize to your own preference. Removals range from Victim of Night, Dismember, Tragic Slip, Murderous Cut, Go for the Throat, Slaughter Pact (better if you run Kalitas) and Urge to Feed (better with an aggro version of Vampires like yours). If you don't have Liliana of the Veil you can either run a couple Liliana, the Last Hope (if you play Standard) or just swap her for more discard and removal. Necrogen Mists doesn't work in this shell - probably works better in an 8-rack deck.
1 week ago
Have you considered Brimaz, King of Oreskos over at least 2 of your Mirran Crusaders? He is a really solid card, as he can't be bolted, has vigilance to help in case your opponent tries to damage race (although I doubt your opponent can do much of that with all your chump blockers), and he produces tokens... with vigilance. He's a mini Hero of Bladehold, and I think that he's pretty sweet with what you've got set up here. Another card I'd be more hesitant to try but may fit well would be Consul's Lieutenant. He may not seem like much, but if he's actually better than people give him credit for. A 2/1 first striker that puts pressure on your opponent by making them feel like he needs to be blocked. If he isn't, he becomes a better battle cry effect as well as gets bigger himself. If you did decide to run him, another card you could look at over him is Precinct Captain, but I personally prefer Consul's Lieutenant. But with tokens matter cards, Precinct Captain could make the cut. In some respects, I'm tempted to agree with zane. I think that some targeted removal is one of the best things that you could have, and I'd suggest you try to find a way to implement it. The cards he mentioned, Tidehollow Sculler, Inquisition of Kozilek, and Thoughtseize tend to be the reason to run in orzhov colors instead just a straight white deck. If you did decide that targeted discard is indeed worth it to you, I'd look into replacing the following cards: 1-3 Zealous Persecutions would be moved to the sideboard, depending on your meta. Your Blood Artists could be replaced with Tidehollow Sculler, as he picks up the Honor of the Pure bonus and can really screw up your opponent's next play. Blood Artist just doesn't seem as great here without a way to sac your creatures to deal lethal damage. On that note, I'd also cut the 2 Tragic Slips. Since you can't guarantee a way to have a creature killed on any given turn, I'd say it isn't worth running. Plus, replacing them for forced discard can be seen as a more proactive way of dealing with your opponent's stuff, in addition to gaining information. Also, is the 4 Arid Mesas worth running? Just curious if you really needed that much fixing. I could see 1 or even 2 of them, but 4 seems a little excessive to me. I supporse though with the way you currently have Blood Artist in the deck, it may be less consequential. Anyway, I definitely like your current version despite my suggestions. I'd love to see what you'd do for in your sideboard if you ever find the time!
2 weeks ago
I was thinking of splashing white, but since I have quite a few one black drops, drawing a plains when I need a swamp might just screw me over too much. I was thinking of the suture priest + genisis chamber combo, but I think that is for another deck.
@Jewishman, I was thinking of Phyrexian Arena at the time, and it would be better than Underworld Connections, but at the time, it just brought me over my budget too much.As for Geralf's Messenger, he... Kinda fits the theme of my deck, but not to the extent that I would want it to.
On the surface, Bloodghast seems like a good card for the deck, but it would mean that I would have to take something out, and at most it will trigger genesis chamber only once when I play land for turn. I would rather have things like Ghoulcaller's Chant to get creatures that were killed back onto the board to fix my combo.
Tragic Slip really does fit into the decks theme. It is a wonderful sideboard card in case I have to deal with an indestructible creature.
2 weeks ago
Tragic Slip, Dismember, Go for the Throat, Hero's Downfall, Funeral Charm and maybe Doom Blade are the best mainboard options in monoblack. This is why rakdos or golgari are so much better honestly. Lightning Bolt is THE best card in modern. Rakdos vamps also have Terminate, a much better 2 mana kill spell, and Kolaghan's Command, which has built in discard or kills 2 cards vs. affinity, as well as Rakdos Charm, one of the best sideboard cards ever made. Golgari has Abrupt Decay for instant speed, Maelstrom Pulse is sorcery speed and they have access to sideboard Golgari Charm, Back to Nature and Krosan Grip.
Technically speaking, Liliana of the Veil is removal, but if you're monoblack I assume she's out of your price range. If you had the space you could use a single Ob Nixilis Reignited if you wanna try out a walker.
2 weeks ago
I actually don't think I need 2 drop creatures because this is more of a midrange deck. I really enjoy the playing the Distress's here, for me it has performed well. But I did just remove 3 Duress because they are not quite hitting what I want them to in my meta. I decided to drop a little cash and get Liliana of the Dark Realms and an Erebos, God of the Dead to help with my 4 drops. Not sure how I feel about the 4 Victim of Night... May have to change that. What would you suggest changing to add them? Note: the Tragic Slip's have performed very well. Even without the morbid trigger, they hit mana dorks which is useful in my meta. Added Disfigure to maybe board. If I ever play this at a local Tornament, ill probably add it to my side board.
Thanks so much Alexasmaoao!!
2 weeks ago
You want fetch lands that can bring into play untapped, such as Bloodstained Mire and Polluted Delta. Victim of night isn't great with Kalitas everywhere. Drown in sorrow to me is a sideboard card. Grasp of darkness is outclassed by Tragic Slip and Dismember. I'd invest in a set of Bloodghast and a single Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, bring Captivating Vampire up to 4. As much as I love Pulse Tracker, I'd just use 4 Lacerators. And a 4th Nocturnus will add a lot of power. Kalitas, Traitor of Ghet is one of the best creatures in modern right now, I'd try to get 2, though he's expensive.