Tsabo's Web

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Archenemy Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Planechase Legal
Premodern Legal
Quest Magic Legal
Tiny Leaders Legal
Vanguard Legal
Vintage Legal

Tsabo's Web

Artifact

When Tsabo's Web enters the battlefield, draw a card.

Each land with an activated ability that isn't a mana ability doesn't untap during its controller's untap step.

SufferFromEDHD on $outh $ide $uicide

10 months ago

I second that suggestion of adding Cabal Stronghold. Have you thought about Dust Bowl? It's amazing late game in a deck full of basic lands.

If you are trying to keep the mana base as basic as possible have you thought about adding a nice tax like Tsabo's Web?

Deathgrip, Dystopia and/or Gloom might be good value alongside that Painter's Servant.

Imp's Mischief nice Izzet spell for mono black.

Even though this is a tutor tribal list Planar Portal seems bad in the color that tutors best.

Chromatic Lantern does nothing for this deck. A cheaper mana rock would be an upgrade or even a Pristine Talisman. Mirage Mirror would be a nice swiss army knife.

CannedCanOpener on Urza

2 years ago

I've got an Urza deck of my own, and I prefer having something like Thassa's Oracle or Jace, Wielder of Mysteries in order to win on the spot once you exile your entire library with infinite mana. Monoblue has no lack of card draw spells so this is more nitpicky than anything, but Jace or the Oracle can win with just themselves once you've emptied your library instead of having to cast Lab Man then cast a draw spell. I also enjoy Karn, the Great Creator to slow your opponents' ramp down or lock them out of the game with Mycosynth Lattice, kill their 0-drop rocks by animating them into 0/0s, or return a vital artifact combo piece from exile if needed. And since you're running Rings of Brighthearth already, you might like the Basalt Monolith + Rings of Brighthearth combo to generate infinite colorless mana, then you can use that colorless to generate infinite blue by tapping the Monolith for U instead of CCC if you need to cast stuff from your hand.

I also couldn't help but notice that you aren't running anything particularly cruel like Tsabo's Web (which doesn't care if it's tapped or untapped), Static Orb or Winter Orb which you can tap for mana on the end step before your turn to be unaffected by them, or Back to Basics. And you seem to be lacking some removal spells for on-board problems - some good ones to possibly consider are Pongify, Rapid Hybridization, Ravenform, Reality Shift, and Imprisoned in the Moon.

Grind on The Power of my Graveyard

3 years ago

cool deck!
give your all-basic land mana base, cards like Primal Order or Tsabo's Web might be playable

OLucas on Gruul Stax

4 years ago

Tsabo's Web seems to be a nice fit to the deck.

Also consider cards that give your commander lifelink since he deals the damage.

dingusdingo on Looking To Build 5 Color …

4 years ago

You're going to have to run a lot of symmetrical effects (hit all players) and then run cards to get around them yourself. In a 4 player pod, if you 1 for 1 trade cards from hand for opponents lands, you're going to be really far behind. You start with 7 cards, while your opponents collectively have 21 cards. 1 for 1 trades are not the way to go about building this deck.

First, some cards that hate on lands. Winter Orb Static Orb Hokori, Dust Drinker

Now, some ways to negate the drawback

  • Boros Garrison and other bouncelands -> lets you get more from untapping just 1 land, and the bounce resets a land to enter untapped again
  • Lands that tap for 2+ mana -> Ancient Tomb City of Traitors Gaea's Cradle most of these are expensive-ish. Also check out depletion lands Remote Farm its a full cycle and they cheap.
  • Permanent untap effects -> Seedborn Muse and similar
  • Lots of artifact or creature based mana. Signets and Talismans are great in five color budget.

Next, some cards that destroy lands or hate on lands. Armageddon Boil Choke Flashfires Acid Rain Ravages of War Destructive Force Contamination Blood Moon Magus of the Moon Tsabo's Web Omen of Fire Strip Mine Wasteland Impending Disaster Tectonic Break Ruination Wildfire

Then we run some cards that let us recur lands, or like when lands break Ramunap Excavator Crucible of Worlds Life from the Loam Terravore The Gitrog Monster Titania, Protector of Argoth Splendid Reclamation

Add some lands matter cards, some ramp, and some good beaters, and you have a deck.

king-saproling on Brago, King Eternal OLD

4 years ago

I think you'd like Unquestioned Authority . Like Traveler's Cloak, it makes Brago unblockable and can be flickered with his ability for extra draw. These might interest you too: Curator's Ward (protects Brago and gives extra draw when he flickers himself! You can flicker the Ward as well, but be sure to leave 1 creature unflicked so the Ward has somewhere to land), Sunblast Angel , Heliod's Pilgrim , Totem-Guide Hartebeest , Flickerform , Coveted Jewel , Mulldrifter , Cloudblazer , Prophetic Prism , Azorius Signet , Fellwar Stone , Tsabo's Web , Nevermaker , Sovereigns of Lost Alara

OLucas on Urza, Lord High Artificer cEDH *Primer*

4 years ago

Depending on the metagame Tsabo's Web could fit in despite some nombos. Also consider Gush for card draw and Karn, the Great Creator as a "one" card hard lock.

ShreddedByCrows on

5 years ago

Hey there!

Nice brew, neat idea to counter those clunky and annoying Vannifars!

As smne who played Mono-W Stax for a while, with the amazing Hokori, Dust Drinker at the helm, I'll share with you what thoughts inspire me your sweet Linvala decklist.

(Even if it has already been pointed out before, I wanna say that I also love the Urborg combo. It's unexpectable and freakin' gud!)

Let's start by the beginning: mana fixation. Extraplanar Lens is insane in every monocolored archetype, so it's a quite logic inclusion you made here. Nonetheless, I suggest you to go for Snow-covered lands to synergize better with it - that way you won't give a lift to your opponents playing white.

Pearl Medallion and Sol Ring are basics, nothing really worth to say about it. Thran Dynamo and Worn Powerstone are more debatable. I don't know what is your budget issue, but if you want a competitve list, Mana Crypt , Mana Vault , Grim Monolith , Mind Stone , Everflowing Chalice etc. are all better options. Dynamo and Powerstone aren't bad cards, but they just come after those ones if you really do need a solid ''ramp'' package.

Opal Palace feels badly slow and ineffective in a monocolored stax deck. You won't win the game by taking up the board with your creatures armed of a little +1/+1 counter.

You have notable exclusions in your lands for a mono-white. Eiganjo Castle is the first card that comes through mind. Buried Ruin also is a recursive tool you should consider, even over Inventors' Fair . If you manage to find one, Ancient Tomb has its place there replacing Temple of the False God .

At its final shape, my Hokori decklist was running a powerful Crucible of Worlds package including Wasteland , Strip Mine , Dust Bowl , Flagstones of Trokair , Lotus Vale and City of Traitors . I was up to 39 lands, not counting Maze of Ith .

Now let's jump straight into your gameplan!

So... you're planning to focus your eyes on ruining Vannifar's day. To help with this strategy of being the nasty ''combo killer'' guy, I think you should put in some additional pieces of disruption.

That said, I don't know which Vannifar's version(s) your playgroup perform with. If it's a Thornbite Staff / Intruder Alarm one, things would be easier to calm down and you won't need such a heavy stax package - you'll need more single-target/multi-target removals though. And if it's the other one, certainly the most popular now (and also the most powerful/absurd), based on many shenanigans around the creatures Vannifar brings to the table, you'll need more stax support.

One of the very best cards you could add to stop all those creature-centered combos is Humility . This card is broken, this card is stupid. It even disables etb abilities. The only way your opponent has to go through is to destroy it with a creatureless source / or with a ''casting'' effect (like Ulamog has).

Single-handly, Humility tears apart most of the competitive Vannifar lists. However, based on the fact that it is still fragile to enchantments/permanents removals, you'll have to build a defensive shield for your stuff. Vannifar lists often keep a strong package of cheap permanents' removals in their pocket (like Beast Within for example), so you'll need to play carefully.

There's a lot of different ways you can head in order to reinforce your permanents' presence on the battlefield. A pretty simple and most of the time effective, despite of its ccm, you already included is Avacyn, Angel of Hope . I think you still lack a way to cheat her casting cost out to make her a stable and destructive power house.

Stax ''enchantment'' strategy is imo one of the most viable and solid strategy. With Academy Rector (amazing alongside your High Market ), you'll be able to search the exact piece you need to lock the game in your favor.

Notable stax exclusions :

Other cards to consider :

A bunch of meta depending stax tools :

Cards I'd cut from your list :

  • Martyr's Bond > Slow and unreliable on this brew. As you're not sacrificing any kind of permanent on your own, you'll struggle to get any value out of it outside of a lost political blast deflagrating when the game should already be over. Unless you add in some cards like World Queller , it defenitly doesn't deserve a slot imo.

  • Norn's Annex > 4 life + 3 mana for a worse Ghostly Prison . And I wouldn't even play Ghostly Prison there.

  • Bishop of Rebirth > a lot of people seems to give love to this card recently. However, I personally think it is just a bad inclusion. You spend 5 mana on a understated body and you have to wait a whole turn before getting value out of it IF you are in the researched scenario. There will be times where you have Boots or Greaves on board and this will be an insane mini-Sun Titan, but the situation is too rare to justify its presence.

  • Sublime Archangel > No real interest here. Good creature but doesn't provide anything for the stax strategy.

  • Gift of Immortality / True Conviction > weird ''win con'' heavily situational cards based on creatures. There is some logic behind Gift, but it's just too much of a unreliable idea. True Conviction has nothing to do here... it's 6 mana spend to lose the control on the game. If you're searching for card advantage and a bit of healing, go for the brand new Dawn of Hope (also is a good mana sink).

  • Rout > There are plenty better aoe in W. Wrath of God , Sunscour , Fumigate , Day of Judgment , End Hostilities , etc. If you want the instant option, just run Vedalken Orrery .

  • Blackblade Reforged > intersting alternative win con. Feels slow nonetheless.

  • Emeria Shepherd > too slow for my liking.

  • Whispersilk Cloak > can't understand what this does in a deck full of flyiers and tapping effects.

Finally, as you want to challenge Vannifar, which is a blue deck, you'll need something to deal with the classical Cyclonic Rift . Teferi's Protection is a good solution (and it could also protects you form a lot of various situations / removals / etc.), but I'm sure you can find a lot of other response.

I hope you'll find useful ideas in this comment. Thanks a lot for sharing this, it reminds me good times. Keep up the good work, keep up brewing!

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