Vedalken Orrery

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Legality

Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Vintage Legal

Vedalken Orrery

Artifact

You may play nonland cards as though they had flash.

Mannlicher on Psycho Bunny Wonderland

1 month ago

Preface:

This deck was an idea to use some of my old cards, and also see just how nuts I could go with Kwain, Itinerant Meddler. This deck is a spider-web of synergy and combos, multiple infinite combos, and complete bonkers level shenanigans lurking behind a friendly-looking magic rabbit. This is not a budget deck, but in a gracious nod to Lewis Carroll, it is incredibly fun to go "down the rabbit-hole".

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At it's core, the deck is group hug with card-draw, card based mana-ramp, and multiple options for life-gain. I use a few card-draw creatures as well, such as Shabraz, the Skyshark for their synergy with Kwain. Alternate win conditions include Approach of the Second Sun, Jace's Archivist, Windfall, Jace, Wielder of Mysteries, Triskaidekaphile, and Test of Endurance; but the deck is also perfectly capable of beating someone to death with a giant fish - or a giant anything thanks to numerous life-gain options paired with an Archangel of Thune.

The deck has several prison elements with Moat, Silent Arbiter, and Archon of Emeria, as well as Propaganda, Ghostly Prison, and Sphere of Safety. Silent Arbiter and Crawlspace help directly reduce the deck's exposure to attack, along with Gwafa Hazid, Profiteer for any specific threats or "when attacks" triggers. Finally, since this deck does not rely on creatures or doing damage to win, and generates lots of cards in hand, Meishin, the Mind Cage is an easy way to reduce all opponents' creatures to 0 power. For direct damage and targeted attacks outside of combat, the deck includes The Wanderer and Greater Auramancy.

Card draw, treasure tokens, and unlimited hand-size combine with four different Tutors, an Urza's Saga, and a Teferi's Puzzle Box help you keep multiple options in hand, and hopefully keep Kwain hopping one or two steps ahead of your opponents (Remember to use the tutors before your Teferi's Puzzle Box hits the board). Tidal Barracuda, and Vedalken Orrery let you cast anything on anyone's turn. Walking Atlas helps get rid of lands anytime it's not tapped (another combo with Mind Over Matter), and Drumbellower and Teferi, Who Slows the Sunset make sure you're able to untap on every turn, so you can play cards anytime - including win-cons like Laboratory Maniac or Jace's Archivist on an opponent's end-step, then draw for the win.

Circling back to Sphere of Safety - the deck runs 18 enchantments natively, but also features Enchanted Evening to turn everyone's permanents into enchantments. (The deck also conveniently includes Cleansing Nova to destroy all enchantments, which is an absolutely devastating total board wipe when paired with Enchanted Evening, especially if you have Avacyn, Angel of Hope in play on your side). With Enchanted Evening on the board and Sphere of Safety, every permanent you control also counts toward your opponents' cost to attack you for each creature they target you with. Comboing Enchanted Evening, Avacyn, Angel of Hope, and Greater Auramancy means every permanent has both indestructible and shroud, and prevents your planeswalkers from being targeted (or targeted for attacks) directly.

I am only running two counterspells, Mana Drain and Force of Negation, so the deck uses Dovescape to lock down any stray non-creature spells, as well as Tidal Barracuda and ultimately Forced Fruition to further reduce any errant spellcasting. And in this deck, Dovescape not only helps creates magnitudes of tokens, but each of those tokens is potentially an enchantment when it hits the board. With Enchanted Evening in play, those tokens, or ... literally ... any ... other card you play, combos off Archon of Sun's Grace to instantly create infinite (enchantment) pegasus tokens, and become effectively a 1 card infinite combo of 2/2 flying (avoiding Moat) lifelink pegasus. Every. Single. Time. any permanent hits the board under your control after you have both in play.

The Deck includes a The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale to help keep down on the riff-raff, (plus kill off a few billion pegasus every turn), and helps tie up opponent's mana; meshing with the prison cards we already use. For its own mana, there are some basic mana-rocks and a Smothering Tithe to help offset some of the higher casting cost spells if Braids, Conjurer Adept is not on the board.

The Smothering Tithe pairs well with sheer card-draw provided through Forced Fruition, Temple Bell, Kami of the Crescent Moon, and Kwain, Itinerant Meddler to almost guarantee several dozen treasure tokens each turn and help the deck rapidly ramp to maintain both card and board advantage towards casting an Omniscience.

More combo madness, Teferi's Puzzle Box helps spin through the deck looking for lands and combo solutions. Teferi's Puzzle Box also combos really well with Shabraz, the Skyshark and Alhammarret's Archive, effectively doubling the card-draw effect of Teferi's Puzzle Box each draw phase - and Sphinx of the Second Sun provides double the draw-phases per turn, so you're geometrically quadrupling your cards in hand each turn (and possibly playing them for free). And, for every card you draw, the shark is growing, your life is growing, and if you have the Archangel of Thune, everything else is growing too.

If you want to discard cards from your hand, to hit Triskaidekaphile for instance, or just go infinite with your commander, you can use Mind Over Matter, Omniscience, or Peace of Mind to manipulate your hand-size and either play or discard. The deck includes an Ulamog, the Infinite Gyre, Timetwister and Elixir of Immortality to shuffle your graveyard back into your hand, as well as Displacer Kitten and Angel of Finality to exile your opponents' graveyards with a quick bounce.

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Summary Combos:

Forced Fruition + Smothering Tithe == Treasure Tokens

Teferi's Puzzle Box + Shabraz, the Skyshark == Giant Shark and TONS of life-gain every turn

Teferi's Puzzle Box + Shabraz, the Skyshark + Alhammarret's Archive == Sheer madness

Teferi's Puzzle Box + Shabraz, the Skyshark + Alhammarret's Archive + Archangel of Thune == Same as above, but now ALL of your creatures grow exponentially, every turn

Kwain, Itinerant Meddler + (any of the above) == even more nuts

Kwain, Itinerant Meddler + Mind Over Matter == Infinite combo, draw your deck

Kwain, Itinerant Meddler + Mind Over Matter + (any "if you cannot draw you win") = instant win

Enchanted Evening + Sphere of Safety == every card you have counts towards attack cost

Enchanted Evening + Cleansing Nova == total board wipe (lands, creatures, artifacts, all permanents)

Enchanted Evening + Aura Fracture + (any land) == targeted removal of any permanent

Enchanted Evening + Archon of Sun's Grace == infinite flying pegasus whenever ANY card hits the board under your control, even treasure tokens from Forced Fruition.

Enchanted Evening + Greater Auramancy == every card you play has shroud when it comes into play, but will interfere with Mind Over Matter combo with Kwain.

Sheer Card Draw and hand-size + Mind Over Matter == you can tap or untap whatever you want, whenever you want, and you can reshuffle your graveyard with Elixir of Immortality or Timetwister.

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There's more I could write about with additional combos and card interactions, but those are the highlights. The deck is just all-out madness to play and can quietly build and recycle cards until it comes out of nowhere with an 600/600 flying shark. I enjoy it. I hope you will as well.

Thank you.

amarthaler on EDH Arcades, the Strategist

1 month ago

Update!

Out: Wall of Mist and Berserk

In: Vedalken Orrery and Towering Titan

Berserk can often be a dead card in hand due to the amount of attention this deck gets at the table. Its original intent was to buff up an opponent's attacking creature (towards another opponent) and cause some additional damage or loss of a few creatures. Also, I would like a way to be a bit more sneaky with holding up mana (in case I don't need to counterspell anything). Ergo, since Wall of Mist is pretty vanilla I replaced it with Vedalken Orrery. The deck also needs another finisher and a form of trample, so we'll test play Towering Titan for a few games.

Epicurus on Licia Sanguine Tribal

2 months ago

You already have a gigantic maybe board. Let me add a couple more things to it.

Authority of the Consuls slows down your opponents, and adds to your lifegain theme.

Peach Garden Oath, but only if you regularly find yourself accruing a large amount of commander tax. In most cases, it'll make Licia really easy to recast, no matter how much tax you have to pay.

Aetherflux Reservoir should be in every deck that gains a lot of life, if only as a wincon when you're down to one opponent.

Heliod's Intervention in my opinion is just a very good card regardless, but works very well with what you have going here.

Well of Lost Dreams should be in every deck that regularly gains life.

Any other suggestions I might have would detract from thematic elements of the deck, so I'll keep them to myself. Though I might add that Suture Priest, while not being a vampire, certainly feels like he'd hang out with these guys. And Vedalken Orrery might help, since you aren't running very many instants.

That's all I got. Cheers!

amarthaler on EDH Draconic Dominance (C17 Precon Upgrade)

2 months ago

Update!

Out: Vedalken Orrery

In: Dragon Arch

Vedalken Orrery is definitely a fun and powerful card in this deck, however I'd like to play test Dragon Arch a bit.

enpc on Utopian Prosperity

2 months ago

So as a bit of a follow up from your forum post about tapped lands, I thought I would leave a comment here which will hopefuilly give you some insights into what I was talking about.

Looking at your list, your average CMC is (at the time of writing this) 3.85, which is rather high. But on top of that, if you look at hte shaper of the curve, you'll see that the deck is very light on before 3 CMC. This means that the deck doesn't really have much to do in the first few turns of the game which then means it's slower when you're trying to play bigger threats late game. Not to mention you're running a bunch of counterspells which in turn slows down your plays. Additionally, you have cards like Seedborn Muse and Murkfiend Liege which both thrive on playing as many sources that you can tap for mana as possible.

Then on top of that, you're running enough anthem effects (as well effects that put +1/+1 counters on creatures), meaning that lat game you can actually turn things like mana dorks into quite substantially threatening creatures. Combine this with the fact that you're running 38 lands, you could cut some of the more 'bait cards' from your deck as well as one or two lands (36 will be enough if you can pull your mana curve down) and add a few additional dorks. On top of that, you're using cards like Aura Shards which heavily rely on having lots of creatures to play. With only 25 creatures in your deck (which is not a high number), aura shards wil ldo less work overall than something like Return to Nature as Shards has more chance of being blown up before you even get to use it. Or you sit on it until you draw an additional creature which undermines its function.

Adding cards like Birds of Paradise, Avacyn's Pilgrim, Llanowar Elves and Noble Hierarch will help provide you with turn 1 plays which will in turn give you access to bigger creatures faster, meaning less reliance on playing stall cards while you establish a foothold. Additionally, cards like Rishkar, Peema Renegade will synergise nicely with both untap effects and +1/+1 counter effects. Cards like Thran Dynamo here are a trap - you have a lot of very hard costed cards and honestly this would do much more work as either something like Cultivate or Nature's Lore / Farseek. No, it's not as much mana but it's not colourless mana and again, it's ramp that's not competing with beaters for the same CMC.

Teferi is basically a better Vedalken Orrery as he has flash himself. Replacing Orrery with something like Eladamri's Call will add much more value to the deck, as you can get Teferi if you want flash but can get you a beater if you want something else.

Cards like Bow of Nylea will also do more work here than Elixir of Immortality. It gives you the same life triggers, but also leans into the theme of the deck much more. And unlike Elixir, bow can be used over and over. Don't get me wrong, I really like Elixir, but I find it's much more relevant in decks that want to play combo draw loops (think infinite mana Thrasios, Triton Hero).

If it's within your price range, cards like Dragonlord Dromoka are straight up going to do much more work than Treva, the Renewer. Treva's ability gains life, yes, but it constantly requires mana input and then requires you to have a boardstate, which puts it in the win-more category. Dromoka is just a really hard to stop beater and defends you on your turns. Additionally, if you're going to add non-lifelink lifegain effects, you probably want something you can activate over and over for small chunks of life rather than one big hit, as this synergises better with Archangel of Thune. Remember, lifegain for the sake of ligefain is usually not that good - you want to do something with said life so leaning into synergistic effects will help make the deck stronger overall.

Anyway, that's some thoughts on it. I can talk to the points more if you have questions however this should be a good starting point. As with all this advice as well, you have to build your deck how you want to, however there are some defininte things you can do to amke your deck a lot faster while still holding onto the same spirit of the deck.

DemonDragonJ on Double Masters 2022 Predictions and …

3 months ago

Has anyone seen the previews for this set? WotC has finally done it; they are reprinting Imperial Seal! I can hardly believe that they are doing that, but they are!

Also, they are reprinting Dockside Extortionist, Phyrexian Altar, Phyrexian Tyranny, Vedalken Orrery, Allosaurus Shepherd, and Bloom Tender! So much value in this set, and it is only the first day of previews! Is anyone else as excited for this set as am I?

eleventhend on Sydri, Galvanic Genius NO creatures

3 months ago

Phyrexian Scriptures is an excellent sweeper to consider——it can turn Sydri into an artifact creature on T1, then sweep everything else T2. With Vedalken Orrery out, you can even chain those back-to-back at the end of the turn before yours.

Single Combat, Divine Reckoning, and similar sweepers might also be worth considering for similar reasons.

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