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Other enchantments you control have shroud.
Enchanted creatures you control have shroud.
1 week ago
2 weeks ago
Maybe you can add some force life gain into this deck for example Heroes' Reunion, and Healing Hands to make them lose life weather they like it or not. Also some enchantment protection Greater Auramancy, or Sterling Grove. Greater Auramancy is very expensive so I would definitely go with Sterling Grove
1 month ago
1 month ago
Interesting concept. I think Omniscience is not really required in this deck, as your mana base is more than sufficient to play whatever you want any time you want. Sterling Grove on the other hand, would fit in really well (and/or Greater Auramancy, though that one's a bit expensive). Also, I would expect a few more creatures that allow you to draw cards whenever you cast an enchantment.
2 months ago
Exquisite Blood would be pretty nice with Zur's Weirding Out, in addition to giving life for Necropotence, and with Protection Racket, it's one thing to pay a few life to keep you from getting a free card, giving you free life feels pretty awful, and Zur can dig out Protection when you just want cards without paying life. You can mention to people you don't run any 2 card combos, so they won't worry about the Sanguine Bond combo with Exquisite Blood.
With Merieke and Zur, I feel like you'd want Pemmin's Aura and/or Freed from the Real, once Zur puts the Aura on her, it's U to kill target creature, and when you're out of U you keep the best creature you can steal until you have mana again. If Merieke is a card you like digging out, there are 3 mana Transmute cards fwiw, Perplex, Dimir Machinations and the ungodly bad Drift of Phantasms.
For Zur, I like having the option to go Voltron, to do so I run All That Glitters and Heliod, Sun-Crowned. If one copy of All That Glitters doesn't quite cut it, there is also Michiko's Reign of Truth Flip, but I mostly use Copy Enchantment, Estrid's Invocation and Mirrormade to make more Glitters if I want a bigger Zur, 3 is usually a 1 hit kill fwiw, and he can dig out an Unblockable aura or Thassa, God of the Sea technically. For Shroud I like Greater Auramancy, but there is also Diplomatic Immunity to consider.
If you don't mind running Vanishing, which is a very good 'dodge' effect for Zur that doesn't cost him Auras/Counters, you can also run the very funny Out of Time to just wipe creatures pretty much permanently. If you have Copy Enchantment effects, you can duplicate this before it goes away to lock away another group of creatures, very nasty vs large creature boards, and Zur finds both pieces.
Another funny Zur card is Dance of Many, which can duplicate a creature you can target, a very strong effect if your meta cares about powerful creatures. If people run Mill in your area, Nighthowler can be fetched out for a big creature or be drawn to make Zur bigger.
You can't fetch it out, but like Mother of Runes it's very good to have out, Devoted Caretaker can offer very versatile protection to more stuff.
If you want something pretty dirty you can pull out vs opponents that are running stronger than expected decks, your Smothering Tithe works very well with Stasis, which also likes Black Market Connections, though you'll want Brave the Sands to give Zur (and your board) Vigilance. Stasis also likes Archon of Emeria and you're already running Thalia, Heretic Cathar. It's certainly not fetching out Heliod after you've dropped Balista, this doesn't win on the spot, but it's a very strong/nasty effect to have access to, even if you don't dig it out very often. Fortunately Stasis is the only piece you wouldn't want to draw!
2 months ago
OK, so this brings up two questions. Why did I think it was another enchantment besides the one that gives targeting protection and why did I think that Privileged Position was Greater Auramancy. Delphen is just straight-up correct and I can't read.
3 months ago
My first thought is that when you start uptuning decks to fit with a more competitive meta, theming and flavor is usually the first to go.
Usual "I'm not competitive" disclaimer goes here, but my top two choices from this list are Torbran and Atraxa, assuming that Atraxa has a reliable and dedicated win condition. Narfi is my third choice. Tribal usually doesn't work too well unless it's one of the major tribes, and even then it would probably be in one of the major EDH colors, like Elves.
Without seeing the Shrine deck, I imagine its core is a little fragile. If you have cards like Privileged Position or Greater Auramancy, that would help shore it up. Two colors feels a little light for Shrines, and lifegain all too often ends up doing nothing more than delaying an inevitable loss.
Ruric Thar has potential, but going 100% creatures is a little too gimmicky, and you're leaving out a lot of options.
None of these decks look bad; in fact, they all sound like a lot of fun. Unfortunately, you'll probably have to give up a little of each deck's core theme to uptune it, and my thoughts are based on what appears to have the most options to upgrade.
3 months ago
I don't think you can use Vanishing to be unblockable, but I think you could wait until someone decides to block him, and if Zur would die, you can Phase him out and he's removed from combat, you'll still have gotten his attack trigger though.
You've got quite a few solid stax creatures (people often call them Hatebears) in here already, but I run Opposition Agent, Dauthi Voidwalker, Drannith Magistrate, Malevolent Hermit Flip, and Archon of Emeria, as well as Wandering Archaic Flip, which is very effective piece if people run lots of non-creature counters, such as more competitive playgroups.
Well, there are various ways you can win via Zur's ability, in my Zur deck my plan is to lock up the board and then win from a fairly safe position. To go with Spirit of the Labyrinth you could run Teferi's Puzzle Box and Necropotence to lock people out of having cards except you, who can draw via Necropotence. I also use Walking Ballista and Heliod, Sun-Crowned as a half-fetched combo. Because it only needed 1 card, I use Second Chance + Hall of Heliod's Generosity + Necropotence to get infinite extra turns, but you might need a way to get rid of Necropotence to let you draw cards normally, a thing Zur can also help with. Another option that people use (but is pricey) is Rest in Peace (or Voidwalker) and Helm of Obedience, which can help remove players by milling them out, if this seems bad keep in mind that with Mirrormade you can duplicate the Helm on the 2nd turn and eliminate up to 2 players that turn, which should close out a game. While it won't quite win you the game on the spot, there is (back of Hermit) Benevolent Geist and Dovescape so that only you can cast non-creatures. If you're worried about birds you can just use Detention Sphere to clear them out each turn via Estrid's Invocation, but if you've got the most birds, you can keep them around. I like my Zur decks to have a janky feel, so I also don't run Thassa's Oracle.
One of my favourite ways to win is All That Glitters with stuff like Copy Enchantment, Estrid's Invocation and Mirrormade to generate a Voltron win off of Zur's ability. For protection I just run Greater Auramancy, which helps both my Voltron and my general supply of enchantments I don't want targeted. The already mentioned Luminarch Ascension can be a solid win con once it's set up, 1W for a 4/4 flyer is really, really good value, even in cEDH people play the card in control decks.