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You may cast Rout any time you could cast an instant if you pay more to cast it.
Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated.
1 month ago
So now I'm going to organize this post is from different types of cards and alternatives and/or strictly better cards that have the same Converted mana cost!
Let's start with enchantments! It seems like your all over the place, which is fine, but you have aura enchantments and land enchantments. which seems a little weird to me! Normally you want to either go a route for your deck, and this seems unorganized, so let us fix that! Serra Aviary is a bad card, cause it also gives opponents fliers +1/+1, we don't want this. So id suggest either going with some like Citadel Siege cause sure, it won't buff all creatures, and it'll give a boost to one creature you want per turn, or it can be used defensively which is always a plus! I'd also suggest going Dictate of Heliod cause it gives an extra +1/+1 for one extra mana, AND IT HAS FLASH! For cards that are better for the 4 cmc are Light from Within , Force of Virtue , Marshal's Anthem .
For protection cards or cards that accumulate value, instead of Angelic Renewal and Angelic Accord , cards which can be good, but you don't have a whole lof of life gain or recursion to run these two! So I'd suggest cards like Sigil of the New Dawn , Kindred Boon , Privileged Position and Asceticism are 100% more effective in protecting your creatures or giving good value.
Now that we got enchantments out of the way! lets work on these instants! I love some of these instants, Absorb is a fun card that I'm 100% gonna get, same with Archmage's Charm ! Disdainful Stroke , Essence Scatter (and the like), Commencement of Festivities and Guardian Angel are all weaker versions of cards like Mana Drain and Counterspell which I'd upgrade with. I'd also suggest getting some artifact/enchantment removal such as Krosan Grip one of the best in this as it has split second, another card I highly recommend is Bant Charm one of the most versatile instant printed in these colors. some other instants i enjoy and have seen good results with are Teferi's Protection , Plasm Capture / Mana Drain , Render Silent , Arcane Denial , Dawn Charm and Heroic Intervention . Those are just some of my recommendations! I may have some more but You'd really need to let me know what direction you want to go!!
For sorceries, you're in gosh darn green! WHERE ARE THE RAMP SPELLS?!!??!!? Add Farseek , and since we have big fatty CMC angels, Recross the Paths puts in some work! Kodama's Reach and Explosive Vegetation are better than cards like Rampant Growth because 1) it gives card advantage (2 lands for 1 card) and 2) gives us more mana to work with during the late game! (this is when angel decks typically win). other ramp spells I use are Cultivate and Traverse the Outlands .
I've noticed this deck does not have a SINGLE BOARD WIPE, as big as our angels are for the CMC, we won't be able to cast them until later, board wipes are essential to have especially since you aren't running any pillow forts kind of cards, I HIGHLY recommend adding some, cards that I've always had in my white decks are Austere Command , Rout , Supreme Verdict , Cleansing Nova , Descend upon the Sinful , Planar Cleansing and Mass Calcify . Some other sources that are more focused with tribal is Harsh Mercy sure each player gets to pick a creature type, but that typically is one creature for them, and of course we'll pick angels, so we get the upper-hand in this!
We need some card draw, and this is important as I don't see any in this deck and that is a HUGE mistake. Think about adding cards like Rishkar's Expertise , Praetor's Counsel , Blue Sun's Zenith , Sphinx's Revelation , Finale of Revelation just to name a few that come to mind.
For Lands, these look just.....fine albeit slow, but not quite optimized. I totally understand how people on a budget don't run cards like Misty Rainforest and the like. But as a 3 color deck, I suggest adding in cards like Temple of Enlightenment and Temple of Plenty at least you'll get value from them coming in tapped. Other cards I'd suggest are Krosan Verge , Prairie Stream , Flooded Grove , Wooded Bastion , Seaside Citadel , Path of Ancestry , Forbidden Orchard (cause what is a 1/1 to our angels? PFFT) other lands that give some utility in a pinch are: Scattered Groves and Irrigated Farmland ! other good cards are Glacial Fortress (and it's kin), Hinterland Harbor and Temple Garden !
For Artifacts, I see the signets, I don't typically run the
and X signets just cause I like my land ramp better and won't get destroyed with target removal or artifact/enchantment wipes. but as a 3 color deck, you 100% NEED
basically makes all your mana problems go away, just tap lands for whatever color you need! If you're trying to go for some voltronish cards, I'd suggest going like
, which basically secures that you keep whatever creature you want alive for the rest of the game (unless they exile it with a spell somehow).
is also a good card as people won't want to block because it exiles shit, which is GREAT, let me tell you how many times people didn't block because they wanted to keep their creature(s).
For tribal support cards, there is a very small pool to chose from, So you might want to grab a Vanquisher's Banner , Herald's Horn , Urza's Incubator , Door of Destinies , Coat of Arms , Stoneforge Masterwork and Cryptic Gateway are some cards to look at!
Ok, lets finally get this creature situation fixed! first of, YOU'RE AN ANGEL DECK WITHOUT ITS PRIME GURL!?! WHERE IS MY Avacyn, Angel of Hope ?!?!?!??!!?!?!? I'm disappointed!!!! But for real, add her.
Other cards considering should be Metallic Mimic (if you're going for a 1/1 counter theme.) Solemn Simulacrum should go in here, he's just too good not to have here! Rhonas the Indomitable is a great mana sink, and if you really need to give trample to your creatures, Nylea, God of the Hunt is also a good alternative. Resplendent Angel is a great 3 cmc angel, don't underestimate this gurl! Sephara, Sky's Blade is also a great (shittier) version of our gurl Avacyn, Angel of Hope but still a good effect none-the-less! Iridescent Angel , for a 7 mana angel, I was hesitant at running her in my jenara deck, but has proved to be SO GOSHDARN STRONG! Can literally take ANY damage from ANYTHING (don't mention the Eldrazi to this gurl) but it has soaked up a lot of damage over my games. Archangel of Tithes is a great 4 cmc angel that gives taxes for attacking and defending! great include! Angel of Invention a fabulous card, especially if you have something that gives +1/+1 counters, say a Bow of Nylea , is a great addition to our squad! Angel of Serenity is a good card here as well! great recursion for this deck! since we're in bant, Stoic Angel is also a good include! Akroma, Angel of Wrath can't go wrong with an 8/8 creature with so many keywords and protection(s)!
Also, there is ONE card that is SO GOSHDARN UNDERRATED AND NEVER PLAYED and has literally been the BIGGEST beater I've EVER seen is non-other than Selfless Squire . THIS GURL...Where are my words for this card. It's a fog effect but you get a MASSIVE creature that has to be answered or your opponent die! I've had people swing at me for 20+ damage, not worried because of Selfless Squire and she becomes a huge creature, give her trample and/or indestructible, good game! This gurl is so badass she can oftentimes beat an ELDRAZI TITAN 1v1 (in terms of power/toughness). Best and most fun card I'VE EVER PLAYED IN A CREATURE! 50/10 would recommend!
1 month ago
Dawn of Hope is interesting as an extra card draw engine and I'm not sure what I would cut for it.
I'm not sure Ajani's Pridemate would get big enough to matter for as long as it would last. That said getting smacked down by creatures has been a problem in some of the groups I've played in town.
Also thanks! I like Obzedat and I'm trying to get it as effective as it can be within the color identity.
1 month ago
Rout could also be a good board wipe for your deck.
2 months ago
Some better options of ramp to replace Nissa's Expedition and Peregrination : Rampant Growth , Farseek , Nature's Lore (those two can grab nonbasic lands), Cultivate , Circuitous Route , Skyshroud Claim (can also grab nonbasic lands).
In the matter of boardwipes, you might consider Rout for instant speed or boardwipes that don't hit your stuff: Austere Command and Cleansing Nova for versatility, Single Combat , Divine Reckoning , Tragic Arrogance , Cataclysmic Gearhulk .
2 months ago
The first thing I notice is that your mana rocks are less than ideal. The Talisman cycle is good, and I'm glad you included it; however, Chromatic Lantern is a questionable inclusion. You have a lot of non-basic lands to help your mana-fixing situation, and three-mana rocks are significantly worse than two-mana rocks. I think you'd be better off running Orzhov Signet , Mind Stone , Fellwar Stone or even Thought Vessel .
Gamble is an excellent tutor for any red deck, and I think you should strongly consider running it. Enlightened Tutor is expensive, but it'll help tutor up some of the curses you want to use. Similarly, Replenish is an expensive card, but it has a Second Sunrise effect without the requirement to cast it on the turn an opponent died. Academy Rector helps grab Overwhelming Splendor early.
I think Ancient Tomb is (almost) strictly better than Ancient Tomb . If you have access, you should try swapping them. Prismatic Vista is way better than Evolving Wilds , so you should run it if you can. Silent Clearing is good in addition to your Sunbaked Canyon . You have a bunch of double-colored-mana-costs; consider running Reflecting Pool as a sort of ETB untapped tri-land.
Card-draw/selection is at a premium in EDH. Consider Painful Truths , Night's Whisper , Read the Bones , Twilight Prophet and Faithless Looting . In all likelihood, your general and Phyrexian Arena will take care of most of your card draw; however, having a few other sources of card advantage is good.
Crackling Doom is a Mardu card I always liked -- it acts as a 3-for-1 in most games, and aims at the fattest creatures your opponents have. Fire Covenant , Ashes to Ashes and By Force are similar X-for-1s. Despark is an interesting removal spell, and may be great depending on your meta.
Blind Obedience is good as a source of life and as a stax piece. It hoses a lot of decks, including mine (I play artifact-based storm), and has generally impressed me.
Reanimation enchantments may be interesting with all your enchantment recursion. Being able to repeatedly cast Animate Dead , Dance of the Dead or Necromancy seems pretty good, especially if you have ETB or death-triggers on the creatures you target. Your Sun Titan and Bitterheart Witch are pretty good with the reanimation cards; adding Grave Titan or Massacre Wurm would make it better.
Alright. That's all from me. Good luck!
2 months ago
ADD: Narset, Parter of Veils For your wheel theme Rout Cheap alternative to Cyclonic rift Sphinx's Revelation Card draw and life gain for your durdle needs Mana Geyser Big boi ramp Distant Melody Card draw naming spirits
CUTS: Diminishing Returns Clunky cost, it exiles ten cards from your library Spirit of the Labyrinth Its a Nuke on your hand too Ephara, God of the Polis You really dont have that many instant speed spell to completely utilize her ability Mind's Desire Seems like a pet card in a deck lacking any removal... Any of the ritual effects for the mana geyser Consider adding in more removal like Swords to Plowshares Path to Exile Generous Gift boardwipes, and other sweepers.
3 months ago
Hey, I'm here to help as requested. This is a very interesting idea that I haven't seen before, +1.
Even though your mana curve is pretty low, I'd recommend adding a few more lands. However, if you find that lands are consistently not your problem, then you're probably fine with 32 lands. Tuning a mana base has never been my strength.
One spicy card to consider is Helm of the Host . With Aurelia, you can generate infinite attack steps (as long as you 'stagger' your aurelia attacks). Could be a quicker way to finish a game, although I'm not a fan of infinite combos like that.
If you want more stax-y effects, also consider Storage Matrix . I'm a little surprised you're not running more boardwipes, being a stax deck in white. I'd also recommend Rout and Wrath of God and Cleansing Nova .
I would also recommend swapping Chromatic Lantern for a cheaper mana rock. I'd only recommend the lantern for 4-5 color decks that desperately need the fixing, but 2 color decks like this should be fine. Perhaps Prismatic Lens ?
You might also want to add Unwinding Clock . I think you have enough artifacts to make it worth it.
Lastly, I'd also like to recommend Fall of the Thran as it's a land destruction spell that isn't too painful for your opponents.
Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any other questions!
3 months ago
It might be a little expensive but Rout is always a good choice for creature wipes. The extra 2 to make it an instant is solid when you're in a bind. It's not always the best bet,but it can come in clutch.
And to keep in touch with the oketra theme also have Oketra the True to keep making tokens
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