You may cast Rout any time you could cast an instant if you pay more to cast it.
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1 week ago
Hey, here are some changes I might recommend while still staying on a budget. Fist, for a voltron deck I would probably drop the creature count a little bit as 29 is a little high. For this build I would probably eye something around 22-25. Also your land count is very low, I would bring that up to about 36 lands with several ways to search for lands, that will allow you to have plenty of mana and cast the bigger stuff in your deck.
Next, I would cut some cards that seeming underwhelming. Those are: Auriok Edgewright Auriok Bladewarden Fireblade Charger Leonin Relic-Warder , Evra, Halcyon Witness Shimmer Myr Spikeshot Elder , Wayfarer's Bauble ill talk about this one below, Leonin Bola Neglected Heirloom Flip Berserkers' Onslaught . So yeah once you know what to cut, it becomes very easy to make a bunch of additions.
Im not sure if you are married to the $50 budget, most of my suggestions here will be about $1 a piece but here's what I would add. First as mentioned we want better mana production, so you'll want Gift of Estates and Armillary Sphere over wayfarers bauble. In 700 games of commander, I've found that armillary sphere is just better than bauble for many reasons I wont go into right now. Fervent Champion , Sun Titan Kazuul's Toll Collector , 4 basic or flip lands, Flamekin Village Blackblade Reforged . Berserkers Onslaught can be a straight switch for True Conviction . Fleetfeather Sandals . Because your mana production is getting better, you can go just a little bigger on the top end of your deck. I might put 1 or 2 bigger equipments at the top end like Argentum Armor or maybe even a Scytheclaw . I would add Dismantling Wave and a Tome of Legends .
Here's some other very good cards on a budget that I might consider Forging the Tyrite Sword to cheap tutor, Ignite the Future excellent card draw Showdown of the Skalds also great card draw. Theres a whole package of cards you can use with Goblin Welder Goblin Engineer and Daretti, Scrap Savant and if you add those I would add a Neheb, Dreadhorde Champion . Because you have Toralf I might consider a few more red based board wipes like Chain Reaction or Magmaquake but i wouldnt say no to a Fumigate or a Rout either.
Anyway that should give you plenty to think about for now. Enjoy!
2 months ago
Hey, looking at your list I have a bunch of opinions. I'mma drop those for later reference. This comment will be a mess, I'm sorry, I'm not gonna write a cohesive essay with a proper layout.
Vryn Wingmare : taxing yes, but also taxes like 70% of your spells which I just can't see being worth it. At that stage, maybe run Sphere of Resistance . At least that hurts opposing creature decks too.
I don't love cards like Ghostly Prison because even though it does stop a bunch of random damage and everything it still won't stop the Voltron coming your way if they want to. On top of that your Magus of the Tabernacle will be an issue with your high creature count. So I'd consider getting rid of Baird, Steward of Argive and friends.
You only have three boardwipes, you're better off running more of those than pillowfort effects in my opinion. Consider Cleansing Nova , Rout , Time Wipe , Divine Reckoning . I like the last two a lot for this deck. Also where's your Cyclonic Rift do you not have more copies?
I'm very double on Isperia, Supreme Judge as a card. It's only 4 mana here which might make it good enough, but you're relying on opponents doing something which is usually not where you want to be. Mangara, the Diplomat in contrast, at least has muliple triggered abilities which does get triggered a lot, although with your taxing probably still a bad include, especially for it's $ cost. In the same wake I think Fatespinner , even though annoying for sure, gives opponents more options than you would like.
Nitpick, but Brainstorm becomes considerably worse if you don't have a bunch of fetches or other shuffle effects. Same goes for Mox Opal and your low artifact count. Though that one might still be good enough, albeit a little inconsistent with the current artifact count.
For counterspells, consider Memory Lapse or maybe even Essence Scatter or False Summoning . Also get Swan Song back in, a 1 mana counterspell that doesn't have a pay x out is probably still worth it's spot. Maaaybe on a super tight 100, but it's not like you're at that stage right now. And get rid of Render Silent three mana isn't worth it for the added silence in my opinion. Just keep the cheapest counterspells so you yourself can be more efficient with your own mana.
For ramp: Your commander is 4 mana, and getting him out is really good for you. Your ramp, for this reason, should be cmc 2 and below if possible. On top of that, due to Augustin's cost reducing abilities, you prefer your ramp to generate colored mana. So imo get rid of Azorius Locket and Azorius Cluestone . Instead look towards Coldsteel Heart and Talisman of Progress , maybe even a Sapphire Medallion , Pearl Medallion , Wayfarer's Bauble , Knight of the White Orchid . Or maybe Mind Stone , Walking Atlas , Everflowing Chalice . Maybe don't fix colors but at least curve out augustin. Finally please at least play Commander's Sphere over the Cluestone .
Also, please for the sake of our group, play an additional wincon. Right now you have Expropriate , Approach of the Second Sun and Smothering Tithe + Stasis lock. I know control decks don't traditionally run too many wincons, but keeping a lock on the board long enough is difficult and we won't usually feel like sitting through you trying to contain us for that long. Also where's Dramatic Reversal to go with your Isochron Scepter ?
3 months ago
Land Tax , Avacyn's Collar , Gallows at Willow Hill , Harmonious Archon , Herald of War , Repel the Abominable , Slayer's Plate , Thalia's Lieutenant , Thraben Doomsayer , Abzan Falconer , Abzan Battle Priest , Apostle of Purifying Light , Archetype of Courage , Avacynian Missionaries Flip, Avenging Huntbonder , Banisher Priest , Cathars' Crusade , Crusader of Odric , Elite Inquisitor , Elite Scaleguard , Fencing Ace , Fiend Hunter , Fiendslayer Paladin , Frontline Medic , Hedron-Field Purists , Intrepid Hero , Keeper of the Accord , Kwende, Pride of Femeref , Lavabrink Venturer , Luminarch Aspirant , Mentor of the Meek , Mikaeus, the Lunarch , Mirran Crusader , Odric, Lunarch Marshal , Odric, Master Tactician , Selfless Squire , Soldier of the Pantheon , Soul's Attendant , Victory's Envoy , Archangel of Thune , Cradle of Vitality , Felidar Retreat , Unbreakable Formation
What I'm suggesting is more of a focus on the +1/+1 counters and the slight life gain that can go along with it. Sit behind a wide army of little guys until you can slowly stack them up high. Any blink effect, like coudshift or eerie interlude can also work well, and bigger/better wraths, Austere Command , Cleansing Nova , End Hostilities , Mass Calcify , Planar Cleansing , Rout , Slash the Ranks ,
3 months ago
As Polaris pointed out, it depends what exactly you mean by that and if they're actually entering at the same time. If you copied Finale of Devastation an infinite number of times, they'll enter sequentially and Basalt Ravager will only see the ones that entered before it. If you're getting all your creatures as the result of Warp World it'll see all of them. That said, the damage is based on the total number that share a type, not just the total number. Also, your opponent will have a chance to respond, so they could cast something like Rout so that 0 damage is dealt.
4 months ago
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Take Out: - Merciless Eviction exiles so that will not trigger our boy, Nev.
Bontu the Glorified really doesn't seem that good. You dont have a lot of creatures to sack. Sure you could get a bunch from Nev. Its too many conditions needed for Bontu.
Winds of Abandon for the same reasoning as Merciless Eviction
Mnemonic Deluge is so much mana and you do not even really have any good targets for it. It wont get you an overloaded rift, it can target a board clear but you dont need to do that multiple times
Court of Grace seems slow and you will almost never be the monarch probably.
Avacyn, Angel of Hope could be really good so as to keep all of your stuff
Faith's Reward is good. Lets you get the death triggers on stuff and then you can get all of your stuff back
Second Sunrise is also good but helps everyone. If you manage to wipe the board, second sunrise, and then wipe the board again, THEN play Nev or if you had Blood Artist out, that's meta. Its a lot of mana to do all this so maybe not on the Sunrise.
Rise of the Dark Realms could be the SAUCE
Liliana, Dreadhorde General aint bad if you are able to board wipe to help protect her and draw all those cards
Leyline of Anticipation could be nice if you need more flash for board clears but this is meh in the deck. Your instant speed stuff is your spot removal or counters!
Rout is a built in flash board clear
Land Tax is good since you are in non-ramp colors. You can get the lands you will need since you might blow up your own mana rocks sometimes
Talismans are good but could get blown up so up to you
Gift of Immortality on Nev is banana town
Generous Gift instead of a spell that exiles like Utter End. This one destroys
8 months ago
So other than the Giants themselves, the last two areas to look at are removal and utility. Depending on how much Brion tech you want to include, you are probably going to have to skimp on one of these two areas.
Removal is tricky in EDH. You don't want too little or too much. You're running White, so you can destroy anything you want--which is nice.
I would recommend two or three board wipes minimum and at least and five or six cards that can take care of artifacts and enchantments. Creature removal is great for aggro decks but the Threaten cards can take care of that for the most part.
One tactic you can do is sandbag your big creatures and wait for your opponents to commit to the board, then wrath and start playing your giants. If you like the sound of that, run five wraths or something like that. It's only a few more mana to kill EVERY creature.
I know you have some Wear / Tears. I'd add one for sure.
I have a bunch of Crush Contrabands, which are great. I'd highly recommend it.
Generous Gift is stellar. I don't have any but it's getting reprinted soon and may be cheap.
I have a Pyrohemia on hand. Might be interesting with all your huge giants. Maybe not though.
Titan's Revenge is giant-tribal-y. From Morningtide, and should be somewhat reliable for winning the Clash. More gimmicky than good though.
Swords to Plowshares and Path to Exile are the gold standards for creature removal though. No reason to not run them if you have them. Regrettable, I have none for trade. Path just got reprinted though for what it's worth. I have a boatload of all the budget replacements for them, like Oust, Condemn, Oblation, etc.
Something like Comet Storm might be an interesting include. It can function as removal or win the game outright out of nowhere. I have none on hand but it keeps getting reprinted.
There are tons and tons of removal cards out there.
I would cut Crush Underfoot unless you're married to the flavor. It's pretty bad. Any removal not already mentioned here I would cut. It's all pretty weak and you're gonna need the slots.