Artifact Creature — Angel
You can't lose the game and your opponents can't win the game.
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Platinum Angel Discussion
2 days ago
4 days ago
Hi decidingtoast! Thanks for the comments and suggestions! Idol of Oblivion is a great card in a token deck. Nonetheless, while we make angel tokens as much as is reasonable, we only do so in the most efficient ways, and I think tying draw to token generation will result in inconsistent draw. This ties into a misconception about the deck. I think some builds online that I've seen really try to go out on tokens. While free tokens are indeed great with Giada since she pumps them, she doesn't really incentivize them over cast angels. Since angel tokens are big and fly, game design makes them more difficult to generate, and if we leaned more into this theme we'd be committing a lot of mana to it and would be slowing down the deck quite a bit. Instead we really only play Angelic Accord effects where we get free angel tokens from our life gain, which synergizes with both the angel piece of our theme and the life-gain aspects of the deck. I've only recently added Eye of Vecna so the jury is still out, but its not even close to painful due to our life gain, and is unconditional and consistent, even if we do have to pay each time, which is the downside of the card. Nonetheless paying for our cards is a thing in white, and at least with Eye since its an upkeep trigger we'll always have the mana to pay if we want to (whereas if we gain life with Dawn of Hope out after tapping out it won't do us much good, since we won't be able to pay the ). Tome of Legends, on the other hand, is a card I have a lot of experience of and is nothing short of amazing. Since Giada flys and has vigilance we can usually attack with her every turn, and can then tap her to cast more angels during our second main phase, meaning we'll always have the counters to power it and will basically get one card for every turn, which is a great rate.
As for Faceless Haven, the reason this card is a consideration for the deck is because of a wacky combo with Snow-Covered Plains and The Book of Exalted Deeds. Basically if we make a haven a creature, we can then sac the book to put a divinity counter on it. At the end of turn it will revert to being a land but will keep the counter, basically meaning we have a land version of Platinum Angel. Since land destruction is less common this will be a major barrier to our opponents winning the game by any means, which gives us time to destroy them. Committing to Snow-Covered Plains is also seen as beneficial because for decks running Extraplanar Lens Snow Plains are seen as beneficial since they don't help your opponents. Both the book and Faceless Haven are tutorable with Search for Glory, which can help with putting this together.
There really isn't much of an argument against running this combo, and Mutavault would make it more consistent, so that's a good call! So far I haven't quite felt committed enough to pick up the set of snow plains and these cards, but having two ways to do it could push me over the edge. I'll definitely put Mutavault on the maybe board.
2 weeks ago
Drumbellower is a bit of a Seedborn Muse for sure, albeit for creatures only and in this case we don't have dorks to re-use for mana. Still, it could be an interesting engine in support of something, and white has a lot of tapping/untapping synergies. I'll have to ponder that! It's a cool card. It might be nice in some of my other aggro decks, and maybe here.
I forgot about Together Forever! I pulled a foil promo version of that out of a Battlebond prerelease kit, and had never found a use for it, but its perfect here! It can also protect Giada, which is an added plus. I've found in my limited play so far that the deck goldfishes past, but the card draw is slower than I'd like, and getting targeted and blow out is a constant concern. This card makes Sephara, Sky's Blade even better. The Ozolith is another great counters card that I forgot about. Extraplanar Lens is great, and definitely an auto-include once I can swing the price. It's be nice if Wizards actually reprinted it for a change. That Faceless Haven trick is neat! Stapled a Platinum Angel to a land for and make them play land destruction of they hope to beat you. That's a cool idea which I might do, especially since I'm playing the Book anyway.
Thanks again all for comments, suggestions, upvotes, and adds!
2 weeks ago
Yes, that works. As long as you are changing the game state you can repeat this loop. There are decisions that can be made to end the loop, so this is not one of the "true infinites" like 3 o-rings on an empty board or blood/bond with an opposing Platinum Angel that will end the game in a draw though.
3 weeks ago
Ognis, the Dragon's Lash is the first time we had a cmdr who cares about haste. So that's cool.
Rumor Gatherer is good card draw in white. I'm hyped to see card draw in white.
Glittering Stockpile is pretty unique we haven't seen a mana rock that turns into a ritual later.
Luxior, Giada's Gift is probably the most unique card from this main set.
Angel of Suffering is pretty unique as well. There's only a few cards I can think of that are a lil like this. Platinum Angel and Platinum Emperion. Pairing Angel of Suffering with Wheel of Sun and Moon creates the dream sceneiro for Syr Konrad, the Grim.
Leaving the main set and moving to the cmdr set
Tivit, Seller of Secrets is the first time we got a cmdr that cares about voting and that's awesome.
The Beamtown Bullies seems like a legit cmdr that does something like we've never seen before and make you want to put cards in your deck that you wouldn't want in any other deck. Cards like Eater of Days lol
Mari, the Killing Quill is the first cmdr that cares about assassins. That's freaking cool
Syrix, Carrier of the Flame is clearly made for Phoenix tribes and its sweet
Bennie Bracks, Zoologist more sweet mono white card draw. Yes more cards like this please.
Smuggler's Share same as above but also ramp. Soo good.
Resourceful Defense wins the cmdr set for the most unique card from this set. We've never had a card printed that can move counters of any kind around at instant speed and stick around to do it again whenever you want. So good so Broken and so unique.
And to finish this off. More white card draw.
1 month ago
Maybe Memnarch, Platinum Angel, and Platinum Emperion as closers too. The platinum guys seem extra good in your deck since they'll often have protection. Stonecoil Serpent is a good aggro creature. Soul of New Phyrexia is good. Workshop Elders might be cute. If your creatures get enough protection from Rebbec I guess you wouldn't need flying so much.
2 months ago
Just to not clutter up azja's feed, I'll give my input to the questions you asked. I'm no azja, so I can't answer for them, this is just my educated guessing.
Capture of Jingzhou is rather expensive, and it's easier to just run something like Time Warp over it. But for Karn's Temporal Sundering, it domes for 1 more when it's a trigger off Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow, and it has a Void Snare attached to it, which could clear out some other problem like Platinum Angel (niche example, but gets the point across), or put a ninja back into your hand so you can ninjutsu it out on the extra turn.
Kaito Shizuki requires further testing. in most cases, it's 3 mana for a single unblockable ninja token and a filter the following turn. You'll hardly ever even want to get the emblem due to trying to win through Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow triggers utilizing small ninjas and not cheating out something big. It's more beneficial to have ninjutsu creatures in your hand so you can get them to hit an opponent utilizing an enabler rather than trying to find some way to deal combat damage with a rather lackluster attacking ninja.
Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow enablers want to b as cheap as possible. There's a HUGE fall-off from having a 1 CMC enabler to having a 2 CMC enabler to where that extra mana, and delaying Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow from hitting someone turn 2 better be a big payoff. Faerie Seer and Spectral Sailor are both 1 CMC enablers, and flying is generally scarce enough early game to where it effectively says "unblockable". Wingcrafter is a way to grant Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow flying so she can activate her own ability fairly reliably, it also let's you cycle ninjas out by giving one flying, and using ninjutsu shenanigans to keep more expendable ninjas on the board. Example, you could have it paired with a Skullsnatcher, swing it in, ninjutsu it out for a Fallen Shinobi, then after damage (after the triggers and before combat is over) ninjutsu the Skullsnatcher back in so that the Fallen Shinobi can stay a little safer in your hand. Augury Owl Sage Owl being able to see 3/4 cards into your library helps set up a big Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow play, or can at least give u information to see if you'll get answers to threats or if you need to crack a fetch as you nothing coming up and need to refuel, etc. That extra digging and set-up is basically a Sensei's Divining Top activation, but on an enabler body.
There's no instant-win combo in the deck because azja doesnt like them. "But I don't really enjoy playing combo decks, so I've opted to not include the aforementioned Demonic Consultation & Thassa's Oracle combo.". Having said that, Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow is typically a really fast agro deck. It will have the general agro problems of puttering out if faced with a deck that has enough lifegain and board wipes. But that deck was also designed more in the cEDH realm, so if a game is going longer than 6 turns, the super control deck is probably going to win anyways. As for trying to throw in more alternate win-cons, you usually want to avoid that. If you need multiple cards for an alternate win-con and they cards otherwise could either be dead, or put you behind in your initial game plan, they are just a hinderance in cEDH. Every individual card needs to be doing something to push you further. You can't have dead combo pieces in hand when you have 5-turn games. Thassa's Oracle is more often than not a dead card in decklists like this. You need a deck build around what it wants you to do, otherwise it's just a 1/3 for 2 mana, and Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow really doesn't need that baggage.
Scheming Symmetry isn't really a "play and win" card, it's just another 1 CMC top deck manipulation card. It also works REALLY well if you have something like Fallen Shinobi in hand, waiting to hit the person you just let search their library.
"Also, would avoiding the enters tapped lands be better? E.G. Drowned Catacomb, Mystic Sanctuary, Sunken Hollow be far better as say City of Brass, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, River of Tears, Etc.?" River of Tears is a bad card to try and deal with when you're running on a really low curve. If you play it turn 1, it adds B, so you can't play your 1 CMC enablers aside from Gingerbrute. If you play an island turn 1, and River of Tears turn 2, you now have double blue on turn 3 with no black, and if you play a black mana land, you now have double black and only one blue. If you need the double blue and a black, you would need to tap it before playing a land, but doing something like that makes it so you can't use it for ninjutsu. It's just a hassle of a land and adds too much to keep track up when there's already a lot that's going on in an EDH game. Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth is basically just a swamp. City of Brass would generally be a good include though, assuming you're ok with the price tag and games aren't typically decided by 4 life. Drowned Catacomb will generally always come in untapped if you play right due to the amount of fetches. Mystic Sanctuary will generally come in untapped in a deck this heavily blue, and the upside of being able to recur an answer or even a big spell that Yuriko, the Tiger's Shadow can trigger with makes the chance of it coming in tapped irrelevant. Sunken Hollow is the worst offender of the 3, but it still has the basic land typing, so it can be fetched. And that upside is generally enough to warrant including it.
2 months ago
My deck didn't just have 1 line to win. I sometimes won when leyline was out and i didn't get a graveyard. It just became much harder because the whole point of playing daretti is to use his rummage ability to pitch big artifacts into your graveyard and cheat them out. I could still use it and pitch stuff i didn't need and extra lands away, but it was a loss in value.
Some of the wincons were boardwiping and then Blightsteel Colossus combat damage
Platinum Angel + Moltensteel Dragon + Soul Conduit Pay down to zero life then switch life totals with people. Combine with voltaic key to do it to a 2nd person, then pay down a little more and swing at the guy who doesn't have fliers with a dragon that has like 40 power.
Mycosynth Lattice+Karn, the Silver Golem blow up all their 0 mana rocks and all their lands for the low price of 1 mana a piece. Not a win con in and of itself, but basically is. Rings of Brighthearth+Basalt Monolith to make infinite colorless mana to pump Steel Hellkite infinitely and use Staff of Domination or a red X spell which i can hit someone with, and Stuffy Doll could be the target to hit them anyway even if they gave themselves hexproof.
I've seen godo. I saw it years ago too. I'll play it one day i promise lol.