Sword of Sinew and Steel
Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature gets +2/+2 and has protection from black and from red.
Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, destroy up to one target planeswalker, and up to one target artifact.
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|Modern Horizons (MH1)||Mythic Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Sword of Sinew and Steel Discussion
6 days ago
dbpunk, the fact that Sword of Truth and Justice and Sword of Sinew and Steel were printed in Modern Horizons and not a standard-legal set suggests that WotC considers such cards to be too powerful for standard, so, if they print any further cards in that cycle, they will likely be in Commander 2020, and not the main set of Ikoria.
2 weeks ago
Cut Creatures for Voltron/Aura-Stuff like: Dont cut Cards like Mesa, Argothian...
Your Commander is also good for beating CMD DMG so use them. Also more Enchantments/Auras, more Carddraw = Awesome.
Pick Auras first.
4 weeks ago
4 weeks ago
Hey, really appreciate your feedback.
Lot of your suggestions are excellent options I've completely overlooked. I had a Boros Charm already, so I've switched that with the Mace of the Valiant. Hadn't even looked at the sword options as thought they were all prohibitively expensive but Sword of Sinew and Steel looks like a great fit for the artifact removal. Will swap it out for Forebear's Blade once I get the card. Open the Armory is definitely a good shout too, have ordered but not yet decided what to swap for it. Finally will also pick up the suggested Buried Ruin for the utility benefits, swapping for a Mountain most likely.
Actually have a Kindred Dominance already, but the high mana cost puts me off as it might sit as a dead card a lot of the time as I'm not sure how deck ramp feels yet. It would certainly help with finishing games off though.
Not so sure on Ashenmoor Liege as many of the knights are white. Likewise, going to give the Haakon, Stromgald Scourge + Dauntless Bodyguard a miss as not sure how to go about getting Haakon into the graveyard easily.
Deck gets its first outing on Tuesday, looking forward to seeing how it plays out.
Thanks again for your thoughts!
1 month ago
Love the deck a ton!
Creature suggestions: Ashenmoor Liege - Sort of tribal card, really powerful
Bloodcrazed Paladin - Not sure how good it is but in theory, after a large boardwipe...
If I had anything to suggest, it is that there is maybe not enough removal. So here as a few suggestions that I think you would find useful.
Kindred Dominance - great boardwipe option in tribal. Boros Charm/Rakdos Charm these have plenty of utility since they have multiple options. Boros Charm is prtection from boardwipe and a finisher with the double strike mode. Rakdos Charm works against graveyard decks, destroys a problematic artifact, or punishes go wide decks. Sword of Sinew and Steel - All around great card but also serves as recurring removal!
Other: Buried Ruin - Utility land, gets your artifacts that have been destroyed. Open the Armory - functions as any of your equipment but is flexible ~ you can tutor for lands if you get Sword of the Animist or tutor for protection Swiftfoot Boots or even your removal equipment Argentum Armor.
I hope you found these suggestions insightful and helpful! +1
1 month ago
Hey discipleofgary73! At first, let me thank you a lot for your feedback. It's very helpful.
Your theme suggestions are all really nice and I already tested some of them before to come up with the version presented there.
Those which didn't make the cut were the following ones: Pestilence Demon (a cool card, with the perfect flavorness, despite being too clunky atm for my meta - I'll add it to the maybeboard for more casual runs), Phyrexian Plaguelord (a pretty good creature removal I'm not convinced about being needed there / nice flavor tho), Pox (land hate always draws you a big target on the head in my pod, but still this could be a game-changing card that fits the theme and powers up Burning Sands / I'm definitely up to try it again), Torment of Hailfire (even if I like that card as one - if not maybe the one, the chosen one - of my favorites, I'm a bit bored of playing it all my decks containing Black - but you're right, it does make sense in there).
I do like the suggestion of Bubbling Muck as most of the deck is black-centered, I'll certainly make room for it. Pontiff of Blight also feels nice, but I think I already got too many mana sinks and don't storm off efficiently enough to use him at its best. Heartless Hidetsugu is an interesting one. It's some bonkers lifeloss outlet I'll always want in a Rakdos, Lord of Riots deck, not sure if it goes there though because of the redundancy it creates with just a bit better cards. Torment of Scarabs is good but one-sided, and generates some hate / I cut Painful Quandary for that reason so I doubt about it being better. Binding Agony is a weird card I actually didn't know it existed - it's like a cheap Repercussion onto one creature - which feels fair. With White enchantment recursion and infinite doll-combos it could be dope I second you on that, I'll see if I figure out a way where it could be nearly as effective there since it's surely an appealing tool.
Otherwise I also tried Black Market for some time, but preferred to run Revel in Riches over it given that it does allow me to generate other mana sources than only black ones. I'm still not really sure about it, but having both in the list feels redundant as the ramp for pestilence effects to occur asap wasn't the main problem I was facing through my few games. I might still reconsider it if things don't stand this way. It's not that cheap to play at 5ccm and doesn't make any difference with Revel in Riches at the attention it attracts from my playgroup removals.
Even if it's a bit sad, I've to admit that Garza is pretty much useless as it stands. Sometimes in long-term games where everyone is playing Control and exterminated the aggro players, I'm able to cast her and draw between one or two cards with her second ability, but that's all. I wish there was a way to make us of her without choosing to go for a typical Voltron strategy involving the Swords' package / Greaves / Jitte / etc. That being told, Kusari-Gama could be of use if I decide to go for more creatures. The whole new Sword of Sinew and Steel you also suggested enables me to deal with things actually out of my range and I might consider tuning up a bit the decklist for it. Scytheclaw is cool and fits the themes, I forgot about that card.
Smoke is overall a really good card, I just hope it doesn't turn the deck too much into a Staxxy one / feels pretty good against Saskia. I'm not fond of Counterflux but I guess it also could be useful against this annoying Pod dude. Fool's Demise is a card I never played because I always felt it was overcosted, but I might give it its chance for once and see what happens!
I'll let you know about future changes if you're interested, thanks again for your help!
1 month ago
MindAblaze Thank you for the praise and your own suggestions.
If I may offer a bit of feedback;
I avoided the +1/+1 counters on the Green-White one because it's already present on Sword of Truth and Justice, and that one is a guaranteed 2 counters on one target plus whatever more you can proliferate.
I think getting all the creatures from the revealed cards is maybe a bit strong on the card advantage side. More so the closest spell I find that does the same is Beast Hunt or Lead the Stampede - a 3 CMC (well, there is Winding Way as a 2 CMC). Whereas selecting one out of a mass is more like Commune with the Gods - a 2 CMC.
I would replace the counters with another effect and tone the creature-grabs a bit down. Otherwise, very nice idea.
I think the trigger is way too much. Lands are effectively free for the opponent to discard but any higher CMC is causing a lot of damage or free card draws. Sword of Fire and Ice is already considered one of the best Swords because it provides unconditional card draw in colorless. This one is easily better on average.
Turning it around so you choose to pay the life just makes it into a 3-copied Dark Confidant with an opt-out for the life loss. And Dark Confidant is already considered one of the stronger cards in Magic, even when it is enforced draw.
I don't even think there's a way to tone this particular effect down without either still having it way stronger than Sword of Fire and Ice or having the cost be so minimal that it effectively just has increased damage on-hit and the card draw portion is non existent while exiling your own library.
If you were to keep the card advantage aspect of it, I would rather suggest a very different approach to this particular Sword than what is done with the rest, which is not unlike how that color pairing has previously been treated - something that is a bit stranger than usual. Figure something like this:
"Whenever equipped creature deals combat damage to a player, exile up to seven cards from the top of target player's library. For each card less than seven exiled this way, put a Shadow counter on ~. Then you may remove X Shadow counters from ~, and cast a card exiled with ~ with converted mana cost X or less without paying its mana cost."
It's something akin to Villainous Wealth but on a much slower scale, but obviously repeatable. You need to choose between getting more options and getting resources to play those cards. If you first exile a bunch of cards and later need the resources to play them, you can opt to not exile any more cards but instead generate resources for the Sword and immediately cast the wanted card. You can also choose a mix, to exile top 3 and generate 4 counters to cast up to a 4 CMC spell.
The effect is also still practically milling, so it can work in tandem with blue-black's mill strategies if need be, but it provides an alternative value for other strategies by granting access to pseudo card draw and pseudo ramp.
This version could also be changed to be very restricted to only creatures or only instants & sorceries to lower the power level, as this version is still very strong. It could also be changed to only be able to exile cards from target opponent's library, so you cannot ensure the outcome through manipulating your own library - think Vampiric Tutor, Brainstorm.
I think your idea needs more work and balance, as it is very strong.
It's a neat little design. Not much to say, but it feels a bit underwhelming. Also that the Fight is conditioned on discarding specifically a creature means you need a critical mass of creature cards in your deck to take advantage of half the triggered effect. Not that that is too unfamiliar for the Swords when considering Sword of Sinew and Steel, Sword of Light and Shadow, Sword of War and Peace.
Self reflection and consideration for the Swords Show
I think you need to craft the Swords from a mindset that all colors should find it useful and properly valuable and not be too niche. One of the worst Swords is Sword of Body and Mind because milling is such a niche parameter for all colors but blue and blue/black and the odd Altar of Dementia deck, and the token is so small value that it doesn't change much. Add on top that the protections are not as valuable, as green and blue have the least amount of targeted removal on the board, and while pro-green makes you unblockable or a nice wall against green's massive creatures, it's still overshadowed by trample.
I think for my Selesnya Sword I should give the option to grab a land as well - not in addition but as a choice. I think more off-colors (than green & white) could appreciate fetching a land more so than an aura or equipment.
1 month ago
Solely theme-based, not necessarily things that will improve the deck suggestions:
Bubbling Muck, Pontiff of Blight, Pestilence Demon, Heartless Hidetsugu, Pox, Phyrexian Plaguelord, Torment of Hailfire, Torment of Scarabs, Binding Agony. I've seen agony be used for infinite combos with stuffy doll, but as far as I know, they all need white.
I think Black Market could help power up the pestilence effects.
Some goodies for Garza: Kusari-Gama, Nemesis Mask, Scytheclaw, Argentum Armor, Ring of Valkas, Sword of Sinew and Steel, and Sword of Fire and Ice.
And some final thoughts: Smoke, Counterflux, and Fool's Demise.