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Your opponents can't cast spells with even converted mana costs. (Zero is even.)
Your opponents can't block with creatures with even converted mana costs.
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Void Winnower Discussion
1 week ago
I think the main point of confusion is that Void Winnower does nothing, in any circumstance, to prevent attacking. It's effects only prevent casting of spells and blocking.
1 week ago
So for my second question, it appears that since attackers have been officially declared it won't matter once I take control of Void Winnower and use it to defend against my attacking opponent. He can attack with both even numbered and odd numbered cmc critters; correct? Bio's response indicates my opponent can't attack (but still can with odd numbered cmc creatures) but Neotrup's response indicates my opponent can attack with both even/odd numbered cmc critters. Sorry to belabor this point but it can be a tad confusing.
As a last question on this topic (Question 2), what would happen if I decided to first cast Sudden Spoiling before I declared blockers and then decide to cast an even cmc spell such as Grab the Reins? The Void Winnower and all other creatures my opponent controls become base 0/2 and lose some of their abilities due to the Sudden Spoiling so I'm presuming those effects take precedence and remain in effect once I take control of the Void Winnower. Is that correct? If so, it doesn't sound like a feasible option I'd want to pursue.
1 week ago
Also, once a creature is declared as an attacker or blocker, it remains attacking or blocking unless it is removed from combat. Even if something happens to make it so the attack or block wouldn't have been legal, as long as it was legal while it happened, it remains fine. (such as if you stole a Blazing Archon instead of a Void Winnower.
1 week ago
Hiya, thanks for the elaborated question ;).
First scenario, your opponent has two creatures with effects that affect the blocking phase. In order to utilize Sudden Spoiling to block freely, you'd have to cast it before blockers and after attackers. This way you get to block whatever you want and will most likely kill the 0/2. Your question does all this correctly.
Then for your second question, please remember that Void Winnower does nothing to prevent your opponent from attacking with (un)even mana costs. So all that does nothing good. Also remember that creatures with a cost of X in their cost on the battlefield will be counted as X=0 as far as Void Winnower goes, so the Skyrider Elf, no matter the casting cost, will have a converted mana cost of on the battlefield.
If you have more questions, feel free to ask them ;)
1 week ago
Hi all, I've been reading up on Sudden Spoiling for a little while now and believe I have a basic understanding of it. However, I am still a little confused on how it would play out in the following scenario:
My opponent is the active player. Let's say I have a Zulaport Cutthroat and a Butcher of Malakir already out on the battlefield and my opponent has Void Winnower, Prized Unicorn and a Skyrider Elf on the battlefield.
My opponent decides to attack me with everything. After he declares attackers, and finishes casting any spells, he passes priority. I presume this is where I would either declare blockers or cast an instant and then declare blockers.
Could I cast Sudden Spoiling and then since the spell temporarily negates the static ability of Void Winnower (meaning I can block with an even CMC creature), declare my two creatures as blockers and then proceed?
I'm assuming I can but wanted to confirm I wasn't overlooking anything.
As a new wrinkle, what if during my casting step (prior to declaring blockers and prior to casting Sudden Spoiling) I decide to cast Quicken and then Act of Treason on his Void Winnower? I then decide to cast Sudden Spoiling and let combat proceed. What happens to his already declared Skyrider Elf if the CMC is even? He's declared it as an attacker but now that I have a Void Winnower on the battlefield (albeit temporarily) under my control, is it still an attacker or does it remain tapped but no longer have the ability to proceed to combat damage?
Sorry if this is a bit convoluted but I wanted to make sure I have an understanding. Thanks for any advice/info you can all offer.
1 week ago
Made changes mostly to fit in the Protean Hulk combo line. Also got rid of lands that came into play tapped (thank you for pointing those out imarockyou).
2 weeks ago
Thanks for the massive comment Seraph_Six and a great deal of helpful advice, you've given me loads to think about. If you don't mind, I'll reply in reverse order :)
Burgeoning: I agree that this card usually only helps during the first few turns. However, when it CAN be used early, the advantage I get usually determines how the game ends. Therefore, I intend to keep it for now.
Elemental Bond: I love this card because it's cheap and gives me extra draw (which isn't something you get often when playing green). However, Soul of the Harvest would be a great addition to the deck's draw capabilities; so I've decided to replace Ruric Thar, the Unbowed with it.
Strionic Resonator: there are so many permanents this artifacts synchronizes with, that I wouldn't dream of parting with it in this deck. It can double the amount of sacrifices caused by the Eldrazi, it can generate twice the amount of dragons generated with Utvara Hellkite, it can help me draw additional cards from Elemental Bond, just to name but a few examples.
Xenagos, the Reveler: He's truly been invaluable in this deck. Thanks purely to him and Selvala, Heart of the Wilds I've managed to both use Mayael AND summon something game- determining by turn 5-6. These cards will both remain in the deck.
Sylvan Caryatid/Rampant Growth: Getting rid of ramp? No, sorry. Sure, these mayb the weakest ramp cards but this deck is so dependent on large amounts of mana that I wouldn't want to consider getting rid of any of its current sources.
Rhonas the Indomitable: Fantastic card indeed, but currently outside my price range.
Novablast Wurm: Interesting card and does work well with Avacyn. But unfortunately, ONLY with Avacyn. This deck is too dependent on its creatures to blow everything up.
Akroma, Angel of Fury, Akroma, Angel of Wrath, Baneslayer Angel, Carnage Titan and Dragonlord Atarka: I want the creatures in this deck to be more than just powerful by themselves; I want their strength to add to the strength of the others. So although these creatures are all awesome individually, I've decided not to include them.
Blightsteel Colossus: Way outside my price range and it also has infect (which has been banned by my playgroup).
Atarka, World Render: Actually, there are only three dragons in deck (four, if you would count Atarka too). Adding her I'd therefore consider to be an inferior choice over the other support options I've made. However, you might be pleased to hear she's the commander of one of my dragon decks (which I still need to post).
Well, that's it. Thanks for bearing with me and thanks for all your advice. I hope you agree that it's been put to good use. Thanks again and happy gaming!
2 weeks ago
It's not a silly question Zerraphon. Typically the first thing I grab ASAP is Omniscience, or if i'm past that, I grab maybe a Pathrazer of Ulamog or Kozilek, Butcher of Truth for beat down, Psychosis Crawler if i have the draw power and want to close out the game, or Void Winnower for some nasty control AND beat down, and possibly Acidic Slime for removal.