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Champion of Wits
Creature — Naga Wizard
When Champion of Wits enters the battlefield, you may draw cards equal to its power. If you do, discard two cards.
Eternalize 5UU (5UU, Exile this card from your graveyard: Create a token that's a copy oif it, except it's a 4/4 black Zombie Naga Wizard with no mana cost. Eternalize only as a sorcery.)
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Champion of Wits Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, saw your forum topic asking for help. Do you own the cards that are in the maybeboard? There's several there that are much better than cards in the main deck.
Consider building this Dimir deck with Sultai in mind? If your goal is to play Sultai with Tasigur or Muldrotha later on then my advice is get playable cards that you can use in those decks, but for the time being get blue, black and Dimir cards and play them here with budget good stuff self-mill/reanimation strategies. Good stuff being playable spells especially creatures who have good ETB (enter the battlefield) abilities. Tasigur and Muldrotha use self-mill strategies not opponent mill strategies. Tasigur and Muldrotha abilities only work with cards in your own graveyard. Self-mill is much more powerful than opponent mill in multiplayer Commander.
Budget cards ($5 or less each) to consider adding that you can use in Sultai with Tasigur or Muldrotha later on:
- Command Tower
- Exotic Orchard
- Reliquary Tower
- Sunken Hollow
- Underground River
- Fetid Pools
- Sol Ring
- Talisman of Dominance
- Fellwar Stone
- Mystic Remora
- Smuggler's Copter
- Frantic Search
- Buried Alive
- Stinkweed Imp
- Careful Study
- Thought Scour
- Fact or Fiction
- Forbidden Alchemy
- Stubborn Denial
- Champion of Wits
- Solemn Simulacrum
- Looter il-Kor
- Thief of Sanity
- Peregrine Drake
- Gonti, Lord of Luxury
- Hostage Taker
- Nightveil Specter
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Nezahal, Primal Tide
- Phyrexian Delver
- Viscera Seer
- Treasure Cruise
- Dig Through Time
- Dark Petition
- Animate Dead
- Dread Return
- Reality Shift
- Imprisoned in the Moon
If you like this idea then I can further help you to change this deck to make it easier to convert it into Sultai later on, but for now still being a good Dimir deck with Scarab God as Commander. Let me know your thoughts, good luck.
3 weeks ago
Adarkar Valkyrie and Exclusion Ritual are the only cards I can see right now that aren't too helpful. Here are some suggestions: Oracle of Dust , Murk Strider , Ulamog's Reclaimer , Strionic Resonator , Naban, Dean of Iteration , Reality Acid , Wall of Omens , Meteor Golem , Nevermaker , Angel of Serenity , Diluvian Primordial , Flickerwisp , War Priest of Thune , Ichor Wellspring , Mycosynth Wellspring , Trial of Knowledge , Harbinger of the Tides , Merchant of Secrets , Champion of Wits , Deadeye Navigator , Sower of Temptation , Exclusion Mage .
1 month ago
DimirAgent8 thanks for the feedback!
My thinking with Hieroglyphic Illumination is that, while both its modes are subpar, having both options is actually good for this deck, and in practice I haven't had problems with it. It's pretty nice with hands where you have homunculus and not Gifts, since you can hold up any interaction then cast it at the end of their turn to draw two, hopefully digging you into a Gifts for turn 4. The cantrip 'mode' isn't good, but it does get an instant in the yard on turn one for homunculus to flip. Don't forget about flipped Homunculus' discount - Hiero as an instant speed Divination is actually pretty good. I can totally see the argument for just going with better cantrips, but it's worked decently for me up till now. If I replace it, I actually think Thought Scour would be the initial pick, since the self mill is actually reasonably helpful.
Thirst for Knowledge and Champion of Wits probably seem weird, but there are reasons I have included them. There are hands with this deck where you have a fatty and Unburial Rites in your opening hand, and having discard outlets that discard two cards is actually really helpful there. This is the same reason Collective Brutality is such an all-star in this deck - I have won games by discarding a fatty and Elesh Norn on turn three and reanimating them on turn 4. In addition to giving a little more consistency to the plan, they both dig into the deck. Champion of Wits in particular can be a quasi-finisher that refills your hand at a pretty low opportunity cost.
I do agree that the countermagic is subpar, but it's here mostly to protect the fatties. That's the main reason I'm running Negate - it slots in extremely well into the ideal sequence of cantrip -> homunculus -> Gifts. On turn four, you'll be reanimating for three mana thanks to the discount, letting you hold up one blue mana for the negate to protect against spot removal, board wipes, and surgicals. (Mana Leak also benefits from this.) I do want to try out Logic Knot, but I'm not sure if the anti-synergy with Homunculus is worth it. Supreme Will is an interesting suggestion! I hadn't thought of that and that might be promising.
All that said, I can definitely envision a more control oriented version of this deck using more/better cantrips and counterspells with a higher percentage of removal, and that might be the next direction I take it in. Thanks a ton for taking the time to evaluate my deck :)
1 month ago
This deck is super sweet. Gifts Ungiven is an incredible magic card and this deck really makes use of its value potential. A few things I would recommend:
- Go for the Throat is strictly better than Cast Down against most decks, since legendary creatures are much more common than artifact creatures. You could also play Murderous Cut if you weren't comfortable with the downside, but it does hinder your Curious Homunculus Flip and Torrential Gearhulk package a bit
- Hieroglyphic Illumination is super awkward in this deck since on 1 you'd rather cast Opt and on 4 you'd rather cast Gifts Ungiven . I'd probably cut them for 2 more Opt and another value spell
- Thirst for Knowledge isn't great in this deck since you can't take advantage of the "unless you discard an artifact" clause very often. I'd honestly probably cut this for countermagic or removal but if you were really insistent on playing another draw spell Think Twice is much better, especially in Gifts Ungiven piles. I'd also recommend cutting Champion of Wits in this 3-drop slot since it's sorcery speed and your deck really wants to curve 1-2-4 with Curious Homunculus Flip
- Your countermagic package leaves much to be desired. I'd definitely play some number of Remand (if you can afford it) and make your 1-ofs Logic Knot and Mana Leak , or Supreme Will if you're REALLY lacking in card selection. Negate is just too narrow for modern (though it is a good sideboard option) and Condescend is only really good in hand, and even then feels a bit clunky without Blue-Tron levels of mana acceleration
- Fatal Push would be very good in this deck, and from my understanding is pretty inexpensive right now. I'd pick those up and slot them in if you can.
The deck idea here is sweet, and I think with some minor changes it could make a super sweet budge deck. Good luck tuning it and have fun!
2 months ago
Bounty of the Luxa has been a pet card of mine since I saw it spoiled so I try to jam it anywhere I can. Sometimes it's stuck in my hand because I'm trying to survive and can't afford to take a turn off, but when it does land it's almost always an all star. At worst it eats my opponent's enchantment hate so I can stick (and keep) the true prize of Sandwurm Convergence . Clearly I'm a Timmy through and through.
2 months ago
Hey, for a Dimir Commander consider the The Scarab God?
Combine the aristocrat strategy and reanimation? You don't have to play Zombie tribal with Scarab, value creatures are just as good. Get value from creatures when they ETB, when you sac them with sac outlets and when they are reanimated.
Creatures such as: Mulldrifter, Baleful Strix, Hostage Taker, Plaguecrafter, Champion of Wits, Clever Impersonator, Phyrexian Metamorph, etc. Can still include Zombies: Carrion Feeder, Cryptbreaker, Gravecrawler, Sidisi, Undead Vizier, Fleshbag Marauder. Consecrated Sphinx, Jin-Gitaxias, Core Augur and Razaketh, the Foulblooded are great creatures with Buried Alive or Windfall and reanimation. Sheoldred, Whispering One is also a good reanimation target, at reanimating one of your value creatures each turn.
2 months ago
You should add more lands and more mana ramp. Your average CMC is over 4 and you only have 34 lands and 4-ish mana ramp cards. There are also some cards that don't make a ton of sense in here as they don't make tokens or don't synergize with them. Cards like Brago, King Eternal, Ixidron, Always Watching and kinda Blade of Selves and Ephara, God of the Polis don't seem to do much. I suppose Ephara draws you cards on your opponent's turn and could draw you some extra cards if you play an instant copy spell so she's alright. Blade of Selves doesn't make sense to me because the tokens don't stay around. I see a few decent ETB effects on creatures in the list but I honestly think Helm of the Host would be a better card in here. The helm makes tokens that stick and you could equip it to Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun to make multiple things unblockable each combat.
Also there seems to be a split between whether this deck wants to be a go big tokens deck or a go wide tokens deck. I suppose you can have both, but I would definitely lean towards going big and cut one of the two mono-white gods (probably Oketra). With that in mind I would look to add some Eternalize cards. Adorned Pouncer seems really good in here, as does Champion of Wits, Sinuous Striker, and Sunscourge Champion. Vizier of the Anointed would also be a card to consider if you add in some of the Eternalize cards. I would cut some of the less good go-wide cards for them.
Also adding in some card draw could be a good idea. You're pretty low on it right now.
So in sum, cut cards that don't make sense with the deck, add in more lands, ramp, and card draw, and maybe look into eternalizing some stuff.
2 months ago
I love Panharmonicon and use it to great effect in my Roon deck, but I fear it's use would be too narrow here with only Mimeo, Champion of Wits & Eternal Witness reaping the benefits. Funny idea though Nickosis, it definitely makes me curious as to how that would work with Mimeo - presumably it would gain the power/toughness stats of all 4, but would it effectively be a copy of 2 of them? As in, have both of the creature's abilities or would I still be stuck with choosing 1 of them. Interesting!
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