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Garna, the Bloodflame
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
When Garna, the Bloodflame enters the battlefield, return to your hand all creature cards in your graveyard that were put there from anywhere this turn.
Other creatures you control have haste.
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Garna, the Bloodflame Discussion
3 days ago
Hey, this looks like a solid list so far, I like it, but there are a few things I highly recommend to make it much faster and more consistent
First off, I would highly recommend more card draw. I see you have some, but it could definitely use at least Rhystic Study and Sylvan Library. Those are possibly the best card draw engines in the format. Skullclamp also looks amazing in this deck.
Secondly, some more mana acceleration would greatly help the speed of the deck. I would recommend at the very least Birds of Paradise, Noble Hierarch, Bloom Tender, Mana Crypt, and Deathrite Shaman. Commander's Sphere, Thran Dynamo, Mana Vault, and Gilded Lotus also wouldn't hurt, but they aren't as essential.
I know they're not warriors and might seem kinda boring, but they are crucial to a successful deck. I would also recommend cutting the lands the enter the battlefield tapped in favor of all the fetchlands and original duals if you can afford them or can proxy them. Considering this optimized landbase, Farseek, Nature's Lore, and Skyshroud Claim all become viable options if you need them since they hit shocklands and the og duals as opposed to Cultivate and Harvest Season (though I don't think you really will need them).
As for cuts, at first glance, Archetype of Aggression doesn't seem overly strong considering the bulk of most of your creatures. Combat Celebrant seems redundant with Najeela, and Thrilling Encore is probably just better than Garna, the Bloodflame, but you might need to maintain your warrior count, you've done more testing than I with this deck, so that's up to you. Aggravated Assault seems unnecessary for the same reason as celebrant, but it's not even a warrior. Wretched Confluence is actually surprisingly weak, I'd recommend cutting that. Chance for Glory isn't really the greatest; it does nothing the vast majority of the game, sometimes all of the game. You're in blue, just run Time Warp if you want an extra turn. Kolaghan's Command is dissapointing in edh as compared to modern. If you're looking for something that hits multiple targets, you can run Decimate and Curtains' Call. I'd also recommend Austere Command for this. Noxious Revival seems kinda unnecessary for this kind of deck, but it's fine.
A few random suggestions to end off, I'd recommend at least having one or two emergency counterspells like Pact of Negation, Negate, and/or Disallow/Counterspell. I would also highly recommend a Craterhoof Behemoth. That thing slaughters people. Eldrazi Monument also seems great in this deck due to all the tokens you're generating.
Sorry, I know that's a lot more suggestions for additions than cuts, but that speaks to the power of the list you already have here. It's kinda tricky balancing the warrior count with other "better" options. Trust me, I played a Gishath, Sun's Avatar deck back when he was released, and keeping dino numbers high while trying to run as many cards that are just better was rough, but it can be done. Keep at it!
2 weeks ago
OK. Malfegor is actually Tier 5 now, so my best bet is either Olivia, Mobilized for War, or Garna, the Bloodflame; both at Tier 4. I'll try & promote either one to Tier 3 or 2, as Well as My Boros Deck; & hopefully other Boros Decks at Tier 4 as well.
Now it's your choice. What to choose as my commander?
2 weeks ago
Malfegor is definitely pretty solid for a deck like this. I used to run him and his enter trigger is brutal. You could also try Olivia, Mobilized for War. Neheb, the Worthy lets you discard when you deal combat damage. You could also try Xantcha, Sleeper Agent as a way to refill your hand so you have cards to discard. Last suggestion is Garna, the Bloodflame to get all the stuff you discarded back.
1 month ago
bradtheimpaler13 Thanks! The new Nicol is pretty sweet, I just died to the ultimate of it the other day lol. I like the idea of Garna, the Bloodflame as well, just finding cuts is rough. If you have a card that you think is weak please let me know!
Cicjose I appreciate the suggestion, but my thought process is that i want cards that are good in mulitplayer. Cursing one player, even with a devestating effect, isn't as much value as dealing with all of my opponents stuff. So i'm not sure cruel reality has a place in the list right now.
ZendikariWoi I agree that hard removal is slightly lacking, though i do run a lot of the Fleshbag Marauder effects and a couple Ravenous Chupacabra type cards. If i could fit in Terminate in on the budget i think i would. the cool thing about Thraximundar is that he's immediate board impact due to haste and the edict. Also i try to play him as a 3 hit kill with commander damage a lot of the time. I might swap him out one of these days to see how Crosis would handle the helm, but I'm really liking what Nasty Thraxy is offering right now.
I appreciate all the comments and sorry I didn't respond sooner. If anyone would like to discuss their thoughts more or suggest other cards I would love it!!
1 month ago
Garna, the Bloodflame would only bring back creatures that died that turn though. So you would have to kill off a creature before you can use Garna combo.
1 month ago
I think you need an Eternal Scourge for this deck.
AH HA! I finally see figured out what this deck is really needing. More punch.
Specifically, this deck should be maximizing the 'creature enters the battlefield' effects.
You are creature one or more token copies of a creature.
Those creatures should not just sit there looking at you like an idiot. Make those token work.
I know that the token come into play tapped and attacking, but by using the ETB triggers those tokens will be doing double duty.
Another thing I noticed while looking at what other people are doing with this deck is the use of +1/+1 counters to power things.
Not sure if that is a direction this deck need to go, so I'm not going to use that too much.
With that new idea in mind, lets look at some swaps.
OUT: Budoka Gardener, Charnelhoard Wurm, Emissary of Grudges, Indulgent Tormentor, Rubblehulk, Scute Mob, Scuttling Doom Engine, Seedborn Muse, Zendikar Incarnate
Not sure about: Loyal Apprentice, Loyal Guardian, Loyal Subordinate, Rampaging Baloths
IN, with no particualr order:
(I'm going to list more cards than we take out so that you have some options to consider.)
Wood Elves, note that the Forest does not have to be a basic Forest. We can fecth a dual or shock land.
Eternal Witness, to get back any other card.
Greenwarden of Murasa, another option for card recursion.
Solemn Simulacrum, land fetch and card draw ine one.
Broodmate Dragon, because dragons.
Garna, the Bloodflame, for more graveyard recursion.
Fleshbag Marauder and/or, Merciless Executioner to help control the board. We can use the sac
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord, fattie with life draining ability.
Mindslicer, so that we can make people's lives suck.
Pilgrim's Eye, land search and flying chump blocker. the poor man's Solemn Simulacrum
Hoarding Dragon, because it never hurts to get useful artifacts.
Netherborn Phalanx, this one has always been good to me in group games. Really punishes the token player.
Puppeteer Clique, so that we can eat and exile opponenet's creatures.
Dire Fleet Daredevil, why not cast other people's spells?
Balustrade Spy, screw your deck.
Avalanche Riders, screw your land.
Sadistic Hypnotist, screw your hand.
Entomber Exarch, give us some nice options. It is a bit weak, but useful and cheap.
Bogardan Hellkite, becuase damage is almost always good. But I'm not sure about the mana cost on this one.
Molten Primordial, let's use our sacrifice outlets on other peoples stuff.
Viscera Seer, so that we can filter the top deck when we sacrifice creatures.
Hornet Queen, tokens making tokens, now with deathtouch.
Feldon of the Third Path, create tokens of creatures that don't get exiled.
Kresh the Bloodbraided or Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper as alternate commanders and good creatures.
Not creatues but need to be in the deck:
Warstorm Surge, let's turn each token into direct damage in addition to it's ETB.
Path of Discovery, why not explore the deck?
Evolutionary Leap, I'm not sure about this one, I like the ability to fetch more creatues from the deck, but we may need more dicard outlets to really make this work for use.
Goblin Bombardment, cheap to cast, multiple uses, may help finish off the last opponent.
So, let me know what you think.
Great. Thanks. Now after helping you with this deck, I'm going to have to finish my jund deck. I'll see if I can get my list up in a couple of days.
2 months ago
@seshiro_of_the_orochi Thanks! I did consider Zurgo Bellstriker and I think you're right that I should get them in there so that a turn 2 Mindblade Render could start drawing me cards. I considered Brighthearth Banneret too and originally decided cost reduction wasn't as important in a deck that effectively tops out at 5 CMC, but the cost reduction would help me play multiple small creatures in a turn and use up the extra cards that I'll draw. I think that's a good idea and I'll probably try to get them in there. Flamerush Rider doesn't do much, you're right, it's gone! Ignition Team is in there because Alesha, Who Smiles at Death can bring it back, and it would be quite large in a multiplayer setting (and scary with Double Strike) but I think you're right that it should be cut. Cutting Zurgo Helmsmasher I could see, basically all he does is whack really hard but he'd die to removal real quick; he does hit really hard though. Garna, the Bloodflame is the one I'm most reluctant to cut, she can save all my dudes when someone board wipes, and she's great as a follow up to Last One Standing. Thanks again for your suggestions, I think they'll make the deck quicker and better!
2 months ago
Looks fun. One thing you should change is to add more one-drops. I'd suggest dropping Zurgo Helmsmasher, Ignition Team, Garna, the Bloodflame and Flamerush Rider and replace them with four Zurgo Bellstriker. Another great red two-drop warrior is Brighthearth Banneret. Also, adding some Obsidian Battle-Axe seems a great plan.