Creature — Demon
At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card unless target opponent sacrifices a creature or pays 3 life.
Printings View all
|Iconic Masters (IMA)||Uncommon|
|Duel Decks: Nissa vs. Ob Nixilis (DDR)||Rare|
|Magic 2015 (M15)||Rare|
|Promo Set (000)||Rare|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Indulgent Tormentor occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.02%
Indulgent Tormentor Discussion
2 weeks ago
Im blind and cant count, so just ignore the previous comment... :D
I would remove:
Indulgent Tormentor/Lord of the Pit - Tormentor can put a bit of pressure I guess, but it happens only once + cant get him back with Shirei; same with LotP.
Witch's Oven - As I already wrote.
Spark Reaper - Only 1 card and 1 life for 3mana+sac creature is very meh + you cant get Spark Reaper back with Shirei.
Liliana's Triumph - You dont have any Lili walker and some direct removal or board wipe would be more useful.
Thaumaturge's Familiar - Its nice it works with Shirei, but you already have some nice Scry cards.
Anyway, I think the more creatures with 0 or 1 power you get for Shirei, the better it gets. Of course with enough free insant outlets (btw Woe Strider is also nice to use)... and of course cards like Crypt Ghast is very good in most decks with black.
1 month ago
Hello fellow Kaalia enthusiast! Inserts obligatory link to my own deck: Still Better than Dan Brown.... Right, with that out of the way...firstly, I notice that while you call this a reanimator deck and have plenty of ways to cheat things out of the graveyard, you're missing things to stack it with. Cards like Entomb and Buried Alive would let you sculpt your graveyard into the perfect stockpile of threats. If you didn't already have loads I would recommend another actual wrath over Terminus considering you have more ways to get creatures back out of the graveyard than your library, but with that being the case you might be better off with either more unconditional removal (Vindicate/Anguished Unmaking) or even Armageddon if you don't mind having no friends. Aurelia's Fury and Boros Charm are great modal spells too! Honestly can't recommend Reconnaissance highly enough but Dust Corona and Phyrexian Reclamation do work for me. As for creatures, I wouldn't bother with Bloodgift Demon (take Rune-Scarred Demon for loops with Reya and a sac outlet such as Razaketh, the Foulblooded); Bogardan Hellkite (you'll probably do more overall with Warstorm Surge or the new Terror of the Peaks); Indulgent Tormentor (your opponents won't ever hesitate to pay the cost and the body is underwhelming for a demon); Vampire Nighthawk (good card but this deck can do better, for similar cost a Magus of the Moat or Grand Abolisher can make you very hard to assail). I'd suggest considering Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Doom Whisperer and Rakdos, Lord of Riots as other strong picks for potential upgrades. Finally you've got a decent mana base, but I'm a little surprised to see no fetches/utility lands like Volrath's Stronghold considering you have actual legacy duals. How can you be running a Scrubland but be unable to upgrade your Forsaken Sanctuary to a Godless Shrine and still be playing with Temple of the False God? This last one is one of the worst lands out there considering it can easily be a dead draw and doesn't even give you colour - you're running plenty of basics so even an Evolving Wilds would be better in almost every case! Anyways hope that's given you some ideas.
2 months ago
Indulgent Tormentor could be a decent draw engine
2 months ago
Loyal Subordinate - Sepulchral Primordial - Ruinous Path (lol I have ten) - Go for the Throat - Virtus's Maneuver - Vona's Hunger - Ashes to Ashes - Murder - Murderous Cut - In Garruk's Wake - Grisly Spectacle - Extinguish All Hope - Nightmare Unmaking - Yawgmoth's Vile Offering - The Eldest Reborn - Fated Return - Exhume - Indulgent Tormentor - Kothophed, Soul Hoarder - Underworld Connections - Sign in Blood - Damnable Pact - Syphon Mind - Liliana's Contract - Promise of Power
2 months ago
Thanks for the comment MizzMizz. It's been a while since I've updated this deck online and honestly I probably hadn't sleeved a new card into it in over a year until this week.
Both the Overseer and Mike almost always felt like crap draws, leading them to hangout in my hand. I'm really happy with their replacements, Archfiend can be a chore to get out some times but it never disappoints and Yawgs will is one of those cards that really needs no explanation.
That being said, I do watch for cards to fit in here as they are released. after doing some research after your comment i noticed that somehow I let Syr Konrad, the Grim get past me. I'ts a total fit for the deck, rewarding me for doing most of what I enjoy doing with this deck; filling the yard.
So I went ahead and added some of my other favorites in to complement it: Yahenni, Undying Partisan and Merciless Executioner. I'm still looking for the cut to put Buried Alive back in to capitalize on Syr Konrad even more. Buried alive may even replace Yahenni after testing, I'm skeptical at this point that it will carry it's weight.
Anyways thanks! Let me know if you have any other questions, I would be happy to answer them!
5 months ago
@Ironheart78 - those are good creatures for constant card draw! the Baleful Force and Indulgent Tormentor are the ones i'll most likely to include.. probably the Yavimaya Elder as well.. Thanks for the suggestions!
5 months ago
8 months ago
I like your deck! It has a similar flavor to my Grixis Twisted Group Hug (No Pain, No Gain!), where I can help with cards and effects, but at a cost. The idea was a Zedruu the Greathearted , but with black, black being my favorite Mtg color. I invite you to take a look at my deck and draw some inspiration from it. One of the principles of the deck is that I don't target destroy/exile/counterspell anything; "that wouldn't be nice, from a good guy that helps you, eh?". I personnally found that Illicit Auction and Pain's Reward are such fun cards and can hurt a player so bad at the same time ! You could also consider any cards with the Join Forces and Tempting Offer mechanics. If I do help someone, it is not everybody, like I originally would have like. So to be honest, I may rename my deck "Grixis Bitter Hugs" -because I think it is more accurate than "Grixis Twisted Group Hug"- if you don't mind. While commenting, I took time to update my deck's description, which was pretty much empty before lol
You could also add Anvil of Bogardan , Oracle's Vault , Outpost Siege , Vance's Blasting Cannons Flip, Bloodgift Demon , Indulgent Tormentor , Well of Lost Dreams ... Phyrexian Arena is a must, Rhystic Study is a beast (but pricy $), Mystic Remora is great and you could add also Braid of Fire , comboing with Luminarch Ascension . For more lands, add Land Tax , Knight of the White Orchid , Weathered Wayfarer , Sword of the Animist , Thaumatic Compass Flip, Journeyer's Kite ...