Indulgent Tormentor

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Format Legality
1v1 Commander Legal
Block Constructed Legal
Canadian Highlander Legal
Casual Legal
Commander / EDH Legal
Commander: Rule 0 Legal
Custom Legal
Duel Commander Legal
Highlander Legal
Legacy Legal
Leviathan Legal
Limited Legal
Modern Legal
Oathbreaker Legal
Pioneer Legal
Vintage Legal

Indulgent Tormentor

Creature — Demon

Flying

At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card unless target opponent sacrifices a creature or pays 3 life.

wallisface on Mono-Black Sacrifice

2 months ago

I think your 2 weakest demons are Archfiend of Depravity and Goremand. Archfiend feels like its not going to do much with how much removal you’re currently running - your opponent is unlikely to have more than 2 creatures anyway. Goremand is a LOT of mana and has a potentially-annoying cast condition. Though personally I think Indulgent Tormentor is your best big-mana creature by a long way here, as it plays to your strengths - i’d suggest dropping Blood Speaker entirely, and just running 3x Indulgent Tormentor and 1x Reaper from the Abyss as your demon suite. Alternatively, a playset of Desecration Demon would be really strong here.

For alternate better low-mana creatures, I can suggest Gatekeeper of Malakir, and Festering Mummy.

As far as better killspells, Infernal Grasp is amazing and seems like it’d be a great option for you. Other options include Victim of Night, Go for the Throat, and Fatal Push

Typically modern decks want their average CMC being just-below 2, so that they can be performant and maintain tempo. You are running some larger creatures that could skew that, but i think aiming for a lower curve would still be good. Maybe 2.2 is a good point to aim for.

ladypickleton on Oloro's Gambit

3 months ago

There are some great possibilities here I never considered and others that just remind me what is out there and need to get.

Archaeomancer's Map would be a game changer in these colors and top of my list to modify my own haha.

When initially learning to brew a deck I went for higher CMC cards but now I focus on 1-4 CMC especially when editing and taking out things that don't seem to be working. Other things on my list to use from here: Karlov of the Ghost Council Cleric Class Lone Rider  Flip "don't mind this 2 drop haha" Voice of the Blessed Crested Sunmare (would be fun; probably also a target but omg if they leave it alone...) Paradise Plume (i think this would work especially well if there is a lot of overlap in the colors of your playgroup or playing 1v1)

Suggests: Bolas's Citadel (only because it's fun; it's also a huge target and the price of those cards can add up quickly) & Divinity of Pride (big hits, many lifegain) & Evil Twin or any other copy effect can be useful tactically taking out threats with it's ability but if they let you have Oloro out, you can copy it, sacrifice the real one and send it to the command zone and get double life-gain triggers. On that last note I have seen people instead of building towards pillowfort going for effects to abuse upkeep triggers ala: Paradox Haze with Golden Urn and Copy Enchantment and creatures like Deep-Sea Kraken and Indulgent Tormentor and Jhoira's Timebug and other supports like Clockspinning and can abuse it even more with Strionic Resonator or Mirrormade and similar effects. I like that idea because a lot of those pieces are useful just on their own but synergize quite well.

Good luck!! Thank you for the tag (:

unstable_anomaly on Kaalia of The Vast

9 months ago

This is a very nice Kaalia of the Vast build. Quite possibly one of the best I've seen on the site actually. Well done. I notice quite a few similarities with my own build Fear, Faith, and Fury. I think the only difference really being mine is possibly a bit more defensive while yours is a bit more offensive.

I played a game last night where I was able to steal an opponents Bolas's Citadel with my Hellkite Tyrant and then proceeded to win the game with it because I already had my own Necropotence in play. Great combo those two. Now begins the painstaking process of deciding what to cut from my list to add a Bolas's Citadel.

A couple cards you're running I've been wanting to playtest myself (Liesa, Forgotten Archangel / Lyra Dawnbringer / Sower of Discord / Utvara Hellkite) how's your experience been with these? Have you found them to be worth a slot in the deck?

Now some recommendations if I may... you seem to be running quite a few cards that will protect Kaalia of the Vast, but one vital one your missing is Robe of Stars. This is essentially a repeatable Teferi's Protection specially for your commander, and with the amount of ramp cards you have, shouldn't ever be an issue to activate. Seems like you may be somewhat lacking in card draw (personal preference probably, I tend to run more than most ppl), but some additions you might like Harvester of Souls / Indulgent Tormentor / Syphon Mind / The Immortal Sun. I also noticed in a previous comment you removed some extra combat spells, but some nice extra combat on a stick would come in the form of Scourge of the Throne.

Apologies for the long comment, this is just one of my all time favorite commanders, so I get excited whenever I see another great list. Again, very well done. Cheers

Althuran on Wilhelt: Reanimator

10 months ago

Thanks for a bit of feedback Dangerwillrobinson79! When I started out this deck I considered putting in Waste Not and Urza's Incubator but decided not to. Also I noticed Consuming Aberration in your deck which was another card I was considering putting in because of how big I might make it and it combos with Undead Alchemist. Another thing I considered as an alternate win condition was Liliana's Contract since there were some other demons I was considering putting in to generate even more value like Indulgent Tormentor, Reaper from the Abyss, or Kothophed, Soul Hoarder to name a few that I think might work well in this deck. Also Ob Nixilis of the Black Oath is more of a maybe card since I don't know if I want to keep it in or not.

reddeath68 on Everything Has a Price

10 months ago

zapyourtumor Some fantastic suggestions, especially Killing Wave. To go over the list.

Curse of the Cabal Feels to slow and with the prevalence of the cookbook deck, I see this as a blow out against me.

Temporal Extortion I had thought about it, but I was going budget. If I find some spare cash I could certainly see it in the deck.

Killing Wave fantastic and will likely become my go to unless I can get Choice of Damnations for cheap as that hits all permanents instead of just creatures.

Pain's Reward I had thought about it, but it feels like a potential blowout where the opponent could force me to bid too much for needed card draw.

Indulgent Tormentor 5 mana CMC and dies to bolt. That didn't feel right to me. If it was either a bit cheaper or had a higher toughness I would consider it.

Desecration Demon Maybe a possible include if the deck needs more creatures. Against a deck without creatures, or with very few creatures, it could be great. However those types of decks usually run either heavy removal, bounce, or something of the like. Also I kind of want the pressure to be on their life total more than the board state.

As for a legacy deck, my experience in legacy in minimal so I can't comment too much on the meta and whatnot, but it could be fun. Currently I am planning to test a different kind of jank there being Eight-and-a-Half-Tails with a enchantment called Earnest Fellowship to nullify most threats to my creatures and run Rune of Protection: White to protect myself. The deck will run Norn's Annex and Ghostly Prison to deal with creature decks.

zapyourtumor on Everything Has a Price

10 months ago

Curse of the Cabal

Temporal Extortion

Killing Wave

Pain's Reward

Indulgent Tormentor

Desecration Demon

You might want to consider making a legacy version, since it gives you a bunch of interesting options:

Breaking Point

Do or Die

Lava Blister

Blazing Salvo

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