Creature — Demon
At the beginning of your upkeep, draw a card unless target opponent sacrifices a creature or pays 3 life.
|Want (3)||DJGam-G , Bwearmp , bCubed|
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|Commander / EDH||Legal|
Indulgent Tormentor occurrence in decks from the last year
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Indulgent Tormentor Discussion
4 months ago
Hey, nice start on a budget. Chaos can be a tricky theme to build.
The avg. CMC of your deck is very high at 4.3 with only Sol Ring as reliable ramp and only having 35 lands. This 4.3 number means you will consistently not be casting a card until earliest turn four, more like turn five. Not doing anything for the first four turns or more is not fun in Commander because you risk basically not having any board presence at all before turn five. My advice is add some ramp in place of a few high CMC cards (5 CMC or higher). Doing this will reduce the avg. CMC and ramp will make it easier to cast spells especially Showstopper.
Some cards for ramp to consider adding:
For the cards to consider cutting you want to make a choice of what are the best cards you want at the high end of the mana curve? Having lots of both high CMC Chaos cards and big creatures is too many high CMC cards. Showstopper is the six drop creature you want to cast. Cards to consider cutting to add more ramp:
- Capital Punishment
- Creepy Doll, Stuffy Doll
- Reiver Demon, Indulgent Tormentor
- Demon of Dark Schemes, Lord of the Void
Reanimation is a good secondary strategy when playing so many high CMC creatures. Reanimation needs enablers to get creatures into graveyard which is good with Patriarch's Bidding and Demons. Consider expanding on reanimation? Another reason to add enablers for reanimation is Anger. A haste enabler to give your high CMC creatures haste, attacking with them the turn you play them especially Showshopper.
Some card changes to consider:
- Sin Prodder > Mogg Assassin
- Stormfist Crusader > Murder
- Chaos Wand > Volatile Rig
- Confusion in the Ranks > Risky Move
- Stolen Strategy > Captive Audience
Good luck with your deck.
5 months ago
Overall, looks fun! Glad to see you have Liliana's Contract in the list, I remember when I first saw that card and this is the perfect place for it.
5 months ago
Im blind and cant count, so just ignore the previous comment... :D
I would remove:
Indulgent Tormentor/Lord of the Pit - Tormentor can put a bit of pressure I guess, but it happens only once + cant get him back with Shirei; same with LotP.
Witch's Oven - As I already wrote.
Spark Reaper - Only 1 card and 1 life for 3mana+sac creature is very meh + you cant get Spark Reaper back with Shirei.
Liliana's Triumph - You dont have any Lili walker and some direct removal or board wipe would be more useful.
Thaumaturge's Familiar - Its nice it works with Shirei, but you already have some nice Scry cards.
Anyway, I think the more creatures with 0 or 1 power you get for Shirei, the better it gets. Of course with enough free insant outlets (btw Woe Strider is also nice to use)... and of course cards like Crypt Ghast is very good in most decks with black.
6 months ago
Hello fellow Kaalia enthusiast! Inserts obligatory link to my own deck: Still Better than Dan Brown.... Right, with that out of the way...firstly, I notice that while you call this a reanimator deck and have plenty of ways to cheat things out of the graveyard, you're missing things to stack it with. Cards like Entomb and Buried Alive would let you sculpt your graveyard into the perfect stockpile of threats. If you didn't already have loads I would recommend another actual wrath over Terminus considering you have more ways to get creatures back out of the graveyard than your library, but with that being the case you might be better off with either more unconditional removal (Vindicate/Anguished Unmaking) or even Armageddon if you don't mind having no friends. Aurelia's Fury and Boros Charm are great modal spells too! Honestly can't recommend Reconnaissance highly enough but Dust Corona and Phyrexian Reclamation do work for me. As for creatures, I wouldn't bother with Bloodgift Demon (take Rune-Scarred Demon for loops with Reya and a sac outlet such as Razaketh, the Foulblooded); Bogardan Hellkite (you'll probably do more overall with Warstorm Surge or the new Terror of the Peaks); Indulgent Tormentor (your opponents won't ever hesitate to pay the cost and the body is underwhelming for a demon); Vampire Nighthawk (good card but this deck can do better, for similar cost a Magus of the Moat or Grand Abolisher can make you very hard to assail). I'd suggest considering Avacyn, Angel of Hope, Doom Whisperer and Rakdos, Lord of Riots as other strong picks for potential upgrades. Finally you've got a decent mana base, but I'm a little surprised to see no fetches/utility lands like Volrath's Stronghold considering you have actual legacy duals. How can you be running a Scrubland but be unable to upgrade your Forsaken Sanctuary to a Godless Shrine and still be playing with Temple of the False God? This last one is one of the worst lands out there considering it can easily be a dead draw and doesn't even give you colour - you're running plenty of basics so even an Evolving Wilds would be better in almost every case! Anyways hope that's given you some ideas.
7 months ago
Indulgent Tormentor could be a decent draw engine
7 months ago
Loyal Subordinate - Sepulchral Primordial - Ruinous Path (lol I have ten) - Go for the Throat - Virtus's Maneuver - Vona's Hunger - Ashes to Ashes - Murder - Murderous Cut - In Garruk's Wake - Grisly Spectacle - Extinguish All Hope - Nightmare Unmaking - Yawgmoth's Vile Offering - The Eldest Reborn - Fated Return - Exhume - Indulgent Tormentor - Kothophed, Soul Hoarder - Underworld Connections - Sign in Blood - Damnable Pact - Syphon Mind - Liliana's Contract - Promise of Power
7 months ago
Thanks for the comment MizzMizz. It's been a while since I've updated this deck online and honestly I probably hadn't sleeved a new card into it in over a year until this week.
Both the Overseer and Mike almost always felt like crap draws, leading them to hangout in my hand. I'm really happy with their replacements, Archfiend can be a chore to get out some times but it never disappoints and Yawgs will is one of those cards that really needs no explanation.
That being said, I do watch for cards to fit in here as they are released. after doing some research after your comment i noticed that somehow I let Syr Konrad, the Grim get past me. I'ts a total fit for the deck, rewarding me for doing most of what I enjoy doing with this deck; filling the yard.
So I went ahead and added some of my other favorites in to complement it: Yahenni, Undying Partisan and Merciless Executioner. I'm still looking for the cut to put Buried Alive back in to capitalize on Syr Konrad even more. Buried alive may even replace Yahenni after testing, I'm skeptical at this point that it will carry it's weight.
Anyways thanks! Let me know if you have any other questions, I would be happy to answer them!