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Crumbling Necropolis Discussion
1 week ago
Hey, I saw that you were looking for advice and there are a couple things that I could recommend. I'll go over a couple things, but I'll start off with the manabase since you said it was the thing you were looking to change most. Also, it's a bit long, but it should help you for what kind of a manabase makes a competitive one.
First off, there are several good replacements for duals, first and foremost being shocks, but since it looks like you already have those looks like you're already half way there.
Basically I would focus on removing any and all lands that come in tapped, because if you want your deck to be competitive, you need to be sure that every turn you take is as optimized as possible. A turn where you could be doing two manas worth of stuff you are only doing 1 manas worth of stuff which essentially means you are playing a turn behind. It's a bit of a simplistic way of explaining it, but that is the best explanation why without going into too much detail. Other lands I would highly recommend, firstly, are the pain lands. These are very effective replacements as well. ( Sulfurous Springs, Underground River and Shivan Reef ) find homes in many competitive decklists you will find. The filter lands are pretty good replacements as well, as they get you the colors you need with added fixing. They only issue is that the t1 plays they provide can be kind of awkward, but should only be really taken into consideration the faster and faster your deck is; In your case they should be a good fit though! They are Sunken Ruins, Graven Cairns and Cascade Bluffs. Also, it may seem weird, but adding every kind of fetch that can even get you one of your colors effectively gives you access to all the colors you could need! You could run all 9 fetches besides Windswept Heath, which seems like a pretty good deal to me, though if you have to pick and chose I would focus on the ones that give you your most important color (blue) first. This goes the extra mile in truly "optimizing" your mana base, and over the long run it thins your deck and makes it more consistent.
All in all, the changes I would make would look something like this -Canyon Slough, -Crumbling Necropolis, -Grixis Panorama, -Path of Ancestry, -Smoldering Marsh -Sunken Hollow, -Temple of Deceit, -Temple of Epiphany, -Temple of the False God
and do this
+Sulfurous Springs, +Underground River, +Shivan Reef, +Sunken Ruins, +Graven Cairns, +Cascade Bluffs, +Cephalid Coliseum, also these are pretty good, but the worst of the bunch I've recommended, +River of Tears, +Tainted Isle, +Tainted Peak. Additionally Ancient Tomb is amazing as well, so I would recommend that as a long term investment too. (plus it goes in every edh deck ever so it's non-exclusive!).
Apart from lands, there are a couple of things that I think you could use to increase the consistency of your deck and some of the combos that you seem to be going for. Going over enchantment's first, as there is a short list, I would consider taking them all out personally. Search for Azcanta Flip is a more value oriented card popular in decks that try to attain long term value and want games to go long. Storm isn't quite looking for this, and for that, I think it doesn't do enough for what 2 mana will grant you especially if you are looking to "speed up" the deck. Very often competitive decks can't afford to play things that don't do anything right away, so even though the card is great, it needs to fit a certain role in a deck. I also think that Jace's Sanctum also comes to the "too slow" argument as well, but I think that if you are looking at least for a semi-competitive option, this is fine to keep in. Also for Thousand-Year Storm I have seen some discussion floating around in the competitive community that it could work really well as a win con in a similar oriented style deck, but the huge argument is paying 6 mana for a spell that doesn't do anything, or win you the game right away. Regardless, I think for what your deck has going thousand-year storm seems like it could prove well if it is working well for you.
Otherwise, there are just a couple of cards such as Jaya Ballard, and Docent of Perfection Flip that really stuck out to me. Personally, I don't think that the amount of mana they are is really worth the investment, and I would rather play cards that help setup the win. To go off this, I noticed that you were playing Isochron Scepter, so why not replace those other cards and play Dramatic Reversal which is a near 2 card combo with the scepter? To utilize this combo you would need to play more things that tap to give you mana, but adding mana rocks will make your deck faster and I would recommend adding more anyways. In general this combo is low investment, high reward because none of the cards that you play to make the combo work arn't progressing you towards your endgame anyways. For the mana rocks you could add, I would highly consider cards such as Mox Opal, Mox Diamond, Mana Vault, Mana Crypt, Chrome Mox which are the high profile options, but for leaning more on a budget any of the signets are also highly viable (Izzet Signet, Dimir Signet, Rakdos Signet). In general this will increase the speed of your deck and make it more turbo charged. You won't find many competitive decks without these!
Lastly, I'd just like to briefly mention the best counterspells for competitive EDH. In general it is widely agreed upon that for combo decks in general, you want your counterspells to be as cheap and efficient as possible. Some of the most favored are Force of Will (i saw that you have that one), Pact of Negation, Flusterstorm, Delay, Mana Drain and Swan Song (also on the list). Secondarily, people do play Counterspell but it is often outclassed by the ones I mentioned prior. Also, there are other counterspells that people will play for more narrow purposes and should be played specifically for the meta you are expecting to play in. These are Negate, Mental Misstep, Spell Pierce(only for decks looking to win t2-t3 really),Arcane Denial, Remand etc... (here's a useful link if you want to know more: https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveEDH/comments/5k0tef/a_lexicon_of_cedh_counterspells_and_some/ )
In general I would cut the counters that are 3+ mana, because there are just better options out there if you go looking, and hopefully that page can give you some good insight for what counterspells are the right choice for you. And that will about wrap things up for me without going in too deep.
Yeah, so I could go over every card piece by piece, but that would probably be an entire article on it's own. It really because what makes a deck "competitive" is kind of an ambiguous term in the grand scheme of things. I'm not 100% sure every recommendation I make fits what you are looking for, so it's hard to analyze what cards are truly good/bad without sitting down and discussing it directly. Also, since there are legitimately several different version of a deck that 1 commander could hold, I think I'll just leave you with some resources that can further your cEDHing. Here are some of the competitive edh resources that I like to visit, and hopefully they can serve you well too!
also here is my Kess storm decklist if you want to take a look!: https://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/nekusar-we-legacy-storm-now-cedh/
It's always good to have another person in the community, so I'm glad that your interest has been peaked! Hope to see you around and feel free to message me if you have any other questions!
1 month ago
Changes so far:
+1 Sunken Ruins
-3 Mana Leak
+3 Fatal Push
-1 Mana Leak
2 months ago
Don't forget to grab some mana-fixers!
- Chromatic Lantern
- Crumbling Necropolis
- Dimir Signet
- Rakdos Signet
- Izzet Signet
- Command Tower
- Commander's Sphere
Expensive Fetch's & Shocks
- Blasphemous Act
- Cyclonic Rift
- Phyrexian Arena
- Maze of Ith
- Temple of the False God
- Path of Ancestry
- Teferi, Mage of Zhalfir
Good luck, man! Glad to see you building some more decks.
3 months ago
Fuel for the Cause will not work well in a mill deck--mill is an aggro deck, not a control deck. Control requires domination from the very beginning, either through counterspells or removal. Mill requires aggressively playing your mill cards early, trying to kill an opponent before you die yourself. Late-game counterspells mean nothing--by turn 4, your opponent has already set up their board--they can happily kill you with what they have. Even if you disrupt their turn 4 play, their turn 1-3 plays were still fielded completely unchecked.
Also, just a general advice, Crumbling Necropolis, Evolving Wilds, and other lands that enter the battlefield tapped are far too slow for Modern. Modern is often considered the turn 4 format--on turn 4, an aggro deck should be poised to win; a combo deck should be comboing off; and a control deck should have locked down the opponents' board. There's just no time to waste on a land you can't immediately use. Frankly, that's true in pretty much every format, though tapped lands can be effectively used in more casual, non-competitive commander games.
As for the colourless lands, there are not really enough creatures in this deck to benefit from Holdout Settlement, and the Crabs are really better off as blockers for any 1 drops/tokens. Crumbling Vistage is fine the turn it is played, but there are too many spells that only require coloured mana for it to be effective long-term.
Continuing my slight land digression, if you need three-colour-fixing in Modern, the best way to go is a mix of Fetch/Shock lands and some rainbow lands (Mana Confluence, City of Brass, Cavern of Souls if tribal, etc.).
3 months ago
You can run cards like Fuel for the Cause for proliferating, and if that is too much mana you can run Braid of Fire, Seething Song, or Simian Spirit Guide. And for the mana flexibility, you could use Crumbling Necropolis, Evolving Wilds, Crumbling Vestige, or Holdout Settlement.
3 months ago
For those unaware of the Pokémon TCG, the term "delta" refers to delta species that debuted in 2005. Some of the card-concepts typically associated in one color were color shifted to a different color to shake-up well established color themes and provide unique gameplay experiences.
Delta Commander or Planar Chaos EDH in MTG terms is to establish a game experience that accomplishes the same style of play noted above. Many players over the years have expressed how they wish a certain commander had color x instead of color y or that a different general was missing a color keeping it from reaching it's full potential or other players have expressed interest in a commander's unique abilities yet disliked the color combination it was associated with. Delta commander rectifies these desires and greater customization freedoms while still maintaining the importance of color identity found in a standard commander game.
Delta Commander mirrors the rules of standard EDH with a few simple rule changes. Decks are still 100 card singleton, 40 life each, 21 command damage is lethal, etc. etc. To color shift a deck you use the general that interests you and then you pick only 1 of the 10 lands listed below.
The land selected will represent the "Domain" your general resides in. The domain is not restricted by your general's color identity and will represent the color shift of your deck. When starting a game the Domain and your General will both start in the command zone indicating to your opponents what colors you are restricted to and vice versa for knowing what colors your opponents are running.
Color identity will work a little different in games:
-The color identity of your General will restrict you on what lands you can play.
-The color identity of your Domain will restrict you on what nonland cards you can play.
As you may have surmised players will be able to play their Domain from the command zone in order to help cast spells outside of their General's color identity. This makes the domain special since your other lands will only produce the colors of your general's color identity, which adds more depth to deck building as players will have to compromise for the right balance of on-colored and off-colored spells used in their deck.
EXAMPLE: Say Baral, Chief of Compliance is your General and Frontier Bivouac is his Domain. The lands in your deck can not contain any mana symbol other than and the spells in your deck can not contain any symbol other than . Hence in order to cast the Red and Green spells in this deck you'll be limited to just the Frontier Bivouac in order to cast them.* (*Typically there would be other ways to cast those spells, but the Domain will be the primary source due to it's consistency of being readily available in your command zone.)
Now that you're familiar with how a deck is color-shifted there are only three more rules to keep in mind to accommodate these changes.
.) The Domain will share many of the same properties as your commander such as being a able to play it from the Command Zone and being able to place it back in the Command Zone if the land is to change zones. There are only two exceptions: 1.) you can not play your Domain if you played another land that turn, and 2.) your Domain will not have a command tax to pay since lands aren't ever cast. (The land enters tapped which makes up for the lack of taxation.)
.) Another key difference is if any source (be it a land or mana-rock-etc.) is to produce one or more mana of any color instead that source will only produce any color of mana in your commander's color identity. This applies to cards such as Mana Confluence, Mana Bloom, Gilded Lotus, etc. This rule is in place to put greater emphasis on your Domain being the chief hallmark to casting off-color spells with. Do note however since your domain restricts the color identity of your spells you are allowed to use signets and other mana-producers that fit into your domain's color identity even if they're outside of your general's color identity.
EXAMPLE: If my General is and my Domain is I could still run cards like Fire Diamond, Moss Diamond, Talisman of Impulse, Gruul Signet for color fixing, but cards like Mana Confluence and Darksteel Ingot would only generate blue mana. This is so the Domain retains some level of importance being used in the deck.
.) The last additional rule to this format is unlike all your other lands your Domain will have "Protection from lands." This means your Domain can never be the target of effects from the likes of Strip Mine, Wasteland, or Ghost Quarter due to their abusability with other cards such as Crucible of Worlds or Life from the Loam. Do note this does not stop the effects of cards like Sinkhole, Blood Moon, or Spreading Seas being used. (Hence the importance of running color-fixing mana rocks.)
You have now read up on the rules of Delta Commander or Planar Chaos EDH. Please keep in mind that when building in this format that your general determines the color identity of your lands and your domain determines the color identity of your spells. While it's possible to have a general and a domain that share no colors your deck will likely run a lot better if your domain shares at least one or two colors with your general.
Bonus: If you were to build a deck for this format what general and domain would you build your deck around? What off-color synergies would you include in your deck?
3 months ago
HAH! love the decklist +1! Breya, Etherium Shaper?
4 months ago
This is my first commander deck I got a few months back and have built it up slowly but am in dire need of help finishing it. I know it is slow and probably bad but I like it and it suits me just fine. I like how it can focus on the graveyard but the only strategies I have for it is the Duskmantle Guildmage and Mindcrank set and the Sphinx's Tutelage. I want to focus it on wizards mill where my wizards can help me use my graveyard getting back my instants and sorceries that help mill and draw using Sphinx's Tutelge. Other creatures can be added like Consecrated Sphinx but i'd like for creatures to be mostly wizard. Any help is appreciated.
Commander: Inalla, Archmage Ritualist