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Target opponent sacrifices a creature, discards three cards, then loses 5 life. You return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand, draw three cards, then gain 5 life.
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Cruel Ultimatum Discussion
9 hours ago
Almost all-foil deck...impressive :D
Would Cruel Ultimatum fit? Flavor win, plus card draw, removal, hand disruption, and burn all in one card.
2 days ago
First pass at cuts.
Ankle Shanker, Baleful Strix, Bloodbraid Elf, Cromat, Daxos of Meletis, Dimir Doppelganger, Edric, Spymaster of Trest, Enigma Sphinx, Etherium-Horn Sorcerer, Giltspire Avenger, Harmonic Sliver, Jenara, Asura of War, Juniper Order Ranger, Knight of New Alara, Kresh the Bloodbraided, Lightning Angel, Madrush Cyclops, Magister Sphinx, Mantis Rider, Master Biomancer, Mystic Snake, O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami, Oloro, Ageless Ascetic, Pharika's Mender, Progenitor Mimic, Progenitus, Qasali Pridemage, Rubinia Soulsinger, Ruhan of the Fomori, Samut, Voice of Dissent, Shadowmage Infiltrator, Sharuum the Hegemon, Solemn Simulacrum, Stoic Angel, Surrak Dragonclaw, The Mimeoplasm, Thraximundar, Transguild Courier, Vulturous Zombie, Wall of Denial, Wasitora, Nekoru Queen, Witch-Maw Nephilim
Ajani, Mentor of Heroes, Bant Charm, Behemoth Sledge, Catch / Release, Citanul Flute, Counterflux, Crackling Doom, Crime/Punishment, Crosis's Charm, Cruel Ultimatum, Darksteel Ingot, Dreadbore, Dromar's Charm, Erratic Portal, Esper Charm, Expedition Map, Fellwar Stone, Fist of Suns, Flying Crane Technique, Fractured Identity, Ghirapur Orrery, Golgari Charm, Helm of Awakening, Hindering Light, Hunting Grounds, Mortify, Obzedat's Aid, Panharmonicon, Plasm Capture, Prophetic Bolt, Psychic Strike, Rakdos Charm, Render Silent, Signal the Clans, Spinal Embrace, Terminate, Unscythe, Killer of Kings, Utter End, Voidslime
This leaves you with 114 cards. Though I didn't really consider curve when I made these cuts so I don't know what will happen to that. Regardless, this would be my first pass at cuts.
3 days ago
Now for some cuts:Gamble is bad, and it will make you feel bad. If you want a tutor, you are better off using a cheap black one. Increasing Ambition is a card you can use for example. Cabal Ritual and Dark Ritual are only good for Torment of Hailfire and otherwise they suck in your deck. I'd only keep them if you want your wincon for your deck to be casting and copying cards with big effects like that such as in Cruel Ultimatum, Ribbons, or Exsanguinate, which you could make your wincon, but you'd have to change around your deck. Izzet Charm is a storm card, you don't want this. Secrets of the Dead is way too slow. Just putting in a Sire of Stagnation or something would be most of the time way more efficient.Jace's Sanctum, while not bad, should be replaced by a card coming in Ixalan, Primal Amulet.
I think that the biggest problem with this deck is that it doesn't know how to win. Control with Kess can win in two ways. 1. Infinite Combo (with Laboratory Maniac and Demonic Consultation, Kokusho, the Evening Star and Rite of Replication, or some variation of the Splinter Twin combo). 2. Winning off of either one-shotting or hitting hard over a few turns with cards like Torment of Hailfire that I mentioned before, preferably copying those spells with Increasing Vengeance or Reiterate. You could put an infinite mana combo using Palinchron and Deadeye Navigator in too if you want to go that route.
This should cover most of my complaints. If you still need more things to cut, you probably don't need so many one mana draw spells. They get worse the more there are in your deck. You should really only be using them for the occasional extra draw with Kess when you have nothing to do with her, so only keep the most efficient ones like Gitaxian Probe and Brainstorm, etc.
1 week ago
3 weeks ago
Haha! Yes! I actually had the same kind of idea a few days ago and was curious, so I found this.
My deck was quite different. I actually focused much more on consistency and card draw, only running 2x Cruel Ultimatum and a single copy of Sorin's Vengeance, and threw in 2x Brainstorm for the purpose of stacking the necessary game-enders onto the library ahead of time if drawn.
In addition, I did have the two proliferating Instants you have in my own deck. But what I did was also put in some Goblin Electromancer cards to lighten their load.
I'd like to know how your deck has performed! +1 from me for the interesting idea.
3 weeks ago
I'm working on building $50 budget decks and my newest is
Commander / EDH
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It's a mix of a ETB matters deck with some reanimation. There's a couple combos in there as well. Right now I'm wondering if there's a reason to run Pyromancer's Goggles or if it's to cute. The idea of copying Cruel Ultimatum is great though!
1 month ago
Here is a list of some great cards you could consider for this deck. Corpsejack Menace, Horde of Notions, Sliver Queen, Progenitus, Atraxa, Praetors' Voice, Saskia the Unyielding, Cruel Ultimatum, Brilliant Ultimatum, Cultivate, Kodama's Reach, Bound/Determined, Decimate, Urban Evolution, Abzan Charm, Bant Charm, and Sultai Charm.
As far as some cuts go you could cut these Chandra's Ignition, Day's Undoing, Reforge the Soul, Unexpected Results, Mind's Dilation. I don't really thing they do enough in this deck.
1 month ago
Re:Coronox: So far, the main wincons for me have been huge spells like Cruel Ultimatum, Rite of Replication, Time Stretch, Torment of Hailfire, Bribery, etc. Inalla functions as a value engine to grind extra value out of quality ETB Wizards, especially things like Arcaeomancer, Chronomancer, Snapcaster, and Dualcaster to increase the uses I out of the bombshell spells. So far, the list has been playing like a less explosive, but more consistent and resilient version of Jelava. I've been a bit too busy lately to update my list to reflect these changes though, I'll try to update that after my next round of testing.