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Target opponent sacrifices a creature, discards three cards, then loses 5 life. You return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand, draw three cards, then gain 5 life.
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Cruel Ultimatum Discussion
1 week ago
Thats a good idea since Ribbons originally doubles as a win con, so Ill add 1 Cruel Ultimatum and lose one Cut for now. But I dont want to take away a lot because I still love cut because its sort of card advantage within itself. And I already have a playset of both Terminate and Dreadbore but 2 of each on the sideboard. Like I said in my description, you can swap them out if you want a full set of Terminate over Dreadbore. They are just interchangeable depending on the situation, thats why I only have 2 of each mainboarded.
1 week ago
Personally, I'd cut Cut (heh). You can run better and faster removal, and if you have the time/mana to cast Ribbons, you've probably already won. With the amount of creatures you're running, a mid-late game Cruel Ultimatum will steal games.
One or two copies of Ultimatum, fill up on Terminate, maybe even mainboard some board wipes.
1 week ago
Thanks for the suggestions! I do already have Hour of Devastation on the sideboard for board wipes, but I could sideboard a couple Damnation as well. Ives played Bontu's Last Reckoning when this was a standard deck, and didnt like it. Losing an untap phase for your lands is a huge restriction for control. As for Cruel Ultimatum, what would you suggest that I take out for it? It has a rather high and specific mana cost. Im thinking of maybe only running one copy as a big finisher.
1 week ago
Grixis control! I'm always a sucker for Bolas, +1 from me.
Suggestion: run one or two copies of Cruel Ultimatum. Against a midrange or control deck, it's backbreaking, and against aggro it can be enough to help you stabilize. Bonus points for Snapcasting it.
Also, it's super satisfying to resolve.
For control decks in general, and especially in this metagame, it's generally good to have board wipes. If you can afford Damnation, do so. It's a creature's world out there. Bontu's Last Reckoning isn't as good, but it'll do in a pinch.
2 weeks ago
The CMC is not the only problem--it's having all the right types of mana as well. To play this card by turn 7, you better be sure your lands are all perfect.
By turn 7, they can afford to sacrifice one of their mediocre creatures, so you're unlikely to remove their bomb.
By turn 7, they likely do not have very many cards in their hand, so the discard is insignificant.
5 life will not necessarily close out a game.
All the stuff it gives you is fairly nice, but it doesn't help you win that turn--after all, you likely do not have mana open for the three spells you drew, you have not dealt with their bombs, and your creature has summoning sickness.
You do not have the option of playing this card earlier.
Consider instead Torment of Hailfire. Torment of Hailfire is a great finisher--you're going to destroy their blockers, their hand, their life total, or some combination of the three. Unlike Cruel Ultimatum, where your opponent is mildly inconvenienced, Torment of Hailfire deals a blow that's almost impossible to recover from.
Further, if you're getting bad draws, Torment of Hailfire can be used with 2-3 mana for X--it won't win you the game, but it will be a bit annoying, still providing some utility with what otherwise might be a dead draw.
2 weeks ago
i like your deck.... do you have an opinion on running a single copy of Cruel Ultimatum? i know the CMC is high but do you think a deck like this could pull it off? +1
3 weeks ago
While not creatures, I'm tickled by Violent Ultimatum, Titanic Ultimatum, Cruel Ultimatum, and Brilliant Ultimatum I hope one makes it to the final cut. Don't want to stray too far from the theme, but it would be so cool to capitalize on Jodah, Archmage Eternal's ability like that.