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Target opponent sacrifices a creature, discards three cards, then loses 5 life. You return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand, draw three cards, then gain 5 life.
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Cruel Ultimatum Discussion
3 days ago
- Lord of Tresserhorn
- Crosis's Charm
- Grixis Charm
- Cruel Ultimatum
- Nicol Bolas
- Prince of Thralls
- Sedris, the Traitor King
- Sol'kanar the Swamp King
- Archfiend of Depravity
- Demon of Death's Gate
- Demonlord of Ashmouth
- Master of Cruelties
- Master of the Feast (this guy works with Nekusar)
- Rakdos, Lord of Riots
- Razaketh, the Foulblooded
- Rune-Scarred Demon
- Silent-Blade Oni
- Elbrus, the Binding Blade
- Dragonlord Silumgar
- Preyseizer Dragon
- Scourge of Nel Toth
- Vampiric Dragon
- Bontu's Last Reckoning
- Imminent Doom
- Kefnet's Last Word
- Hazoret's Undying Fury
- Neheb, the Eternal
- Refuse / Cooperate
- Torment of Hailfire
Some of these aren't super serious suggestions, but I think adding a few more Nicol Bolas cards from HOU would be cool. Also some of them may alternatively be good cards for your other deck.
4 days ago
Hi, I happened to build a similar Scarab deck and I can offer few tips from my experience with my playgroup.
First of all, as you mentioned, mana acceleration is very important as dimir doesnt have many natural ways to ramp. Aside from mana rocks, I found Solemn Simulacrum and Burnished Hart surprisingly effective. They are great targets for eternelizing later. I prefer them to some lesser mana rocks as those can be destroyed.
I also agree that counterspells can be the key, you are missing two very important ones: Stubborn Denial is basically one-mana Negate in the deck. Muddle the Mixture can be 2-mana Swan Song but it can find your Rings, Mindcrank or Cyclonic Rift. You really want cheap counterspells as you want to spell most of your mana eternelizing. Psychic Strike might seem sweet (ran it initially) but it can be very underwhelming.
Fleshbag Marauder should be autoinclude. It's a zombie and it puts creatures in opponents' graveyards which is what we really want here. Same goes for Sheoldred, Whispering One. I also like Stronghold Assassin especially when paired with Relentless Dead. Siren of the Silent Song is also surprisingly fun. Vengeful Pharaoh is worth considering too. Its pseudo prison card and you can kill their best attacker and convert it to your side. Lastly, Evil Twin is also nice value, kills the cloned creature, you reanimate it, then reanimate Twin, kill another creature next turn, reanimate. Pure value.
As for other spells, I kinda like Memory Plunder since you mill your opponents quite a lot. Imagine resolving say Cruel Ultimatum or In Garruk's Wake at instant speed for 4 mana. I also value Pull from Tomorrow highly.
So those are my two cents, hope it helps with the deck.
4 days ago
Let's start with the most grixis card ever: Cruel Ultimatum, not running at least one copy is a sin. Some decks even go all in on the ultimatum, filling themselves with removal/counterspells, counting on Cruel Ultimatum to close the game.
Some builds of grixis control have a bit of discard with cards like Inquisition of Kozilek, Rakdos's Return, Raven's Crime, Duress, Consult the Necrosages and Blightning, but controlling your opponent's hand and countering their spells are usually mutually exclusive.
Now, the threats: Tasigur, the Golden Fang, Gurmag Angler and Delver of Secrets Flip are the most common in this kind of deck but Enigma Drake, Sedraxis Specter, Shriekmaw and Goblin Dark-Dwellers are good options.
5 days ago
Knowledge Exploitation should be in the sideboard. It's a lot of effort to go through, and I don't think there are many instants or sorceries worth casting for (assuming you're getting the discount). It's not like Cruel Ultimatum is very common these days.
Bribery or its budget replacement Telemin Performance would probably be better, but still sideboard for those decks where you know what you're going to get. Telemin Performance gets bonus points because it's lethal to creatureless decks. So, anyway...consider replacing Knowledge Exploitation with Muse Vessel or Commandeer or Gather Specimens.
5 days ago
2 weeks ago
Have you considered the talismans? Talisman of Indulgence and the like would help you ramp to Cruel Ultimatum and some cards with improvise would be handy if you go this route. Check out the bolas decklist for the archenemey deck it runs them and isn't so bad that you couldnt modify it to work for your purposes. The planeswalker deck with him isn't terrible either as it comes with an artifact to get out the one it comes with. Might be able to abuse the synergy it creates.
3 weeks ago
luther, thanks man, already had Cruel Ultimatum but I appreciate the references. As for the cards that would actually be useful in this deck, I could possibly make use for Crux of Fate, Disciple of Bolas, Deep Analysis, and Gem of Becoming.