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|Khans of Tarkir (KTK)||Mythic Rare|
|Duel Decks: Speed vs. Cunning (DDN)||Mythic Rare|
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Creature — Orc Warrior
Zurgo Helmsmasher attacks each turn if able.
Zurgo Helmsmasher has indestructible as long as it's your turn.
Whenever a creature dealt damage by Zurgo Helmsmasher this turn dies, put a +1/+1 counter on Zurgo Helmsmasher.
Zurgo Helmsmasher Discussion
2 months ago
I like this deck as one paper it just appears to be a strong collection of Mardu goodstuff type cards. In which case it needs more Zurgo Helmsmasher as he is the OG Mardu. I would even consider him as your commander.
I also strongly reccomend cutting your list down to 100 cards. It will speed up your strategy and eliminate redundancy. I also reccomend increasing your land package up to maybe 35-36 lands as 25% of your deck is CMC 5》 and your colour combination as little access to ramp outside of Smothering Tithe which I deeply reccomend you add.
If you're looking for stuff to cut, the signets and charms are relatively slow mana accelerants : determine which of them you NEED to cover gaps in your land base, and remove the rest.
2 months ago
I'm sorry but come on, Zurgo Helmsmasher as Khal drogo? Like leader of the horde type shit
2 months ago
So first off I just want to say sorry if you have a budget and I recommend some cards outside of price range, but here are some suggestions from me:
Cards to take out
- Murder I get that you say that there aren't many planeswalkers in your meta, but sometimes just having the option to hit them on a card that is the same mana cost and does everything else Murder does is just a better option like Hero's Downfall or like you said you fight voltron decks like Zurgo Helmsmasher a card like Vraska's Contempt is a better removal card as it exiles or only one more colorless mana.
- Isareth the Awakener while she is a reanimator, she also exiles the cards when they leave the battlefield which can hurt if you reanimate something you don't want to lose.
- Lotleth Giant - sounds like a good card when you first look at it but it requires set up and costs 7 mana. Not ideal.
- Necrotic Wound - same with the Lotleth Giant , it takes too much set up and there are better spot removal or board wipes
- Open the Graves now here me out on this one, this card is really good in a deck that wants to sacrifice their own creatures, but this looks to be more token focused which means that majority of your creatures that die don't have Open the Graves to trigger.
- Bontu's Monument it is a good card but it looks like you are going to try and cast more non-creature spells than creature spells
- Board wipes like Life's Finale or if you wanna get expensive Damnation
- Paradox Haze this card is a fun one of mine as it allows The Scarab God to have his beginning of upkeep trigger twice dealing hefty damage.
- Phyrexian Altar this card can win as it gives you deck infinite combos with Gravecrawler if you want the deck to go into that direction
- Tutors Tutors Tutors! cards like Sidisi, Undead Vizier or Diabolic Tutor are always musts in black decks as it can help you find answers or wincons when the situation calls for it. These are just a few ideas I have! If you want any more ideas please let me know!
What to put in?So what do we put in? We have a few options based on what you like:
3 months ago
Like Sisay, but More Colors
Back in My Day They Were Just Creatures!
Those Who Forget History are Doomed to Lose to it.
RIP Kamigawa (Legend Tribal)
Saskia: the Stuff of Legends
Big Sassy's Legendary Horde (note: Big Sassy as a nickname for Saskia can be used in any of these names)
Legendary Night at Saskia's Bar
History Has its Eyes on You (it's a musical reference, if you don't get it)
That's all I got for names- this one was tough! Now, suggestions:
Adun Oakenshield is okay recursion, Anafenza, the Foremost is a good body, Captain Lannery Storm is good ramp, Dosan the Falling Leaf is good against control, Grand Warlord Radha is great ramp, Hua Tuo, Honored Physician is good recursion, Isamaru, Hound of Konda is a gud boi (and a one-drop), Kambal, Consul of Allocation is good taxation without representation, Karador, Ghost Chieftain is SICK and also very flavorfully appropriate for this deck, Kothophed, Soul Hoarder is great draw, Kytheon, Hero of Akros Flip is a good body, Mirri, Weatherlight Duelist is good protection, Ravos, Soultender is good recursion, Rhonas the Indomitable is good but you'll have to see if you like God-Eternal Rhonas better (I like OG Rhonas better unless your repeating God-Eternal's ETB), Sek'Kuar, Deathkeeper is good block deterrence, one of the Tajics ( Tajic, Blade of the Legion or Tajic, Legion's Edge ), both are good bodies, Tana, the Bloodsower is good body + chump blockers, Tariel, Reckoner of Souls is good recursion, Varchild, Betrayer of Kjeldor is good fun, and Zurgo Helmsmasher is a surprisingly fun political piece.
Also, I'd really recommend you include planeswalkers, and also you're running two Selvalas and two Odrics.
3 months ago
@AlwaysSleepy: Thanks. Based on such a combo, I guess the only replacing card I'd use to replace Night's Whisper is either Tormenting Voice or even Wild Guess ? All three have a CMC of 2, or am I missing out on something? I'll have to check to comment to be sure...
Hmmm... it seems as if both replacements just require a single discard from the hand, & the rest is in the clear; much like how Night's Whisper works for this combo. Might as well have an extra card to discard for either Rummaging Replacement. So, yeah. Thanks very much, sir; after a lot of such I've been through; I think it's about time I start my Mardu deck project. But what the heck to use as a CMDR of such design? Queen Marchesa is good, but not what I'm looking for. Zurgo Helmsmasher is ridiculous on its own, but still not what to use as Voltron (Not what I want.), Oros, the Avenger ? nope. Tariel, Reckoner of Souls ? Chaos (This really deserves a symbol here for commenting, & other things of the like. Same for the Planeswalker Symbol on the Same Planar Die.) so far is too hard to control, & is potentially better off as something else entirely that's NOT Angel Tribal. Kaalia of the Vast is more akin to Mayael the Anima as they tutor for very powerful creatures w/ crazy effects. Not much closer. Not going to allow anymore Partner duos. Ol' Edgar Markov means a no can do for me; Eminence was never going to last long enough anyway. Licia, Sanguine Tribune just wants to feast on blood at an extremely huge mana cost, but this deck has little to nothing about life gain. One option remains: Mathas, Fiend Seeker . I wonder how he can truly work... Thanks again! ^_^
3 months ago
If you're going to increase the life total, you must increase the commander damage to compensate.
I could just see people building as fast a deck as they can, and before anyone else has even their mana base set, killed them with 21 Zurgo Helmsmasher damage...
3 months ago
I built a super fun Zurgo Helmsmasher deck for like, $60 once.
I mean, it didn't cost me $60, I just put together a bunch of relevant cards I already had, but they added up to that much.
Zurgo and Worldslayer are about $1.50 together...
3 months ago
Now, my spellbook?
Forced Adaptation : through my time as a magic player, I have been... well, forced to adapt. For my first several years, the only people I had to play with were markedly wealthier than I and knew more about the game, having played with players of a level I did not have access to. I had to get tricky to stand a chance, and tricky I got! Not only that, but counters is one of my favorite archetypes to play, and I have built many a variant over the years (I think 5-8 just on my account), as you’ll see is consistent with several strategies down the line.
Meren of Clan Nel Toth : I tried to four or five different aristocrat decks, which I likely put together and took apart a total of a dozen times or more. Aristocrats is another favorite of mine, though I’ve brewed comparatively few. The one that remains? My Meren brew. She has served me well- so well, in fact, that outside of competitive settings I no longer play her.
Bloodhall Priest : I still remember the day that I laid eyes on a madness deck the first time and thought “being empty-handed can be a good thing?”, and something just connected. I don’t have my madness deck anymore, I sent it to a new player that I got into the game. Hope she’s enjoying it.
Roon of the Hidden Realm : bounce is another one of my favorite strategies, and I’ve never seen a commander who does it like Roon. Who’s got the boons to make you swoon? It’s Roon. It’s Roon.
Vigean Hydropon : represents my current +1 counter deck: my two-headed giant variant. I LOVE this brew, and no one sees the grafts coming.
Zurgo Helmsmasher : represents my current politics deck. Like a couple other strategies, I have thrown everything at the wall to see what sticks with this, and my current edition I call “Zurgo Backswing”, lovingly nicknamed “swing bitch, I dare ya”. I suspect it may be fairly similar to your Queen Marchesa deck, ShutUpMokuba.
Jace, Memory Adept : mill is an archetype near and dear to my heart. My second deck was a mill, and it was terrible, but I knew that one day I would finally mill someone out- that eventually my work would be completed. Well, nowadays I have no mill deck, but I think I might brew one in 2hg- mix in a little pillow fort...
Sygg, River Cutthroat : and finally, one of my favorite commanders ever. This deck is truly a thing of beauty. She has draw for days, removal, spelljack, mill, everything a blue/black player could ask for. I love her dearly.
Zurgo Helmsmasher occurrence in decks from the last year
Commander / EDH:
All decks: 0.01%